If UH (etal) want to be in Big 12 in 2023, AAC wants another $35 million…

[CL82]

Ending up as an indy in FB after 20 years means we didn't get left behind? Of course we got left behind.

But that really has nothing to do with Lew’s point of the importance of football to conference realignment and moving up to more profitable conferences. I know you understand that the most profitable conferences are the P5 which all offer D1 football.

Again, this is just another example of your arguing in bad faith. It really is disappointing. I would hope for better.

 

[ZooCougar]

Kansas has the edge in that they are already in a P5 Conference. The demise of the Big 12 has been exaggerated in my opinion. The new schools will only get better. The fear that I have is that football playing schools that are in G5 Conferences will improve as well and leapfrog UConn in the rotation for P5 invite, like Cinci and UCF did.

The Big 12 is now Big East football. The power conference that everyone wants to leave. That alone limits them.

They are already leapfrogging us. Nothing to be afraid of.

 

[freescooter]

I actually don’t think UConn would be certain to take a big 12 offer. Without Oklahoma and Texas it’s not as stable a conference and geographically it is a miserable fit for us. Keep in mind that new members aren’t getting a full share. But, yeah, we would jump at either the big 10 or the ACC not that those offers are forthcoming.

Yeah, they want to keep getting $5.5 million, not $40 million. They want to keep playing Indy football with no bowl tie-ins. If we got a B12 invite, UConn would be There in a New York minutes.

 

[CL82]

Yeah, they want to keep getting $5.5 million, not $40 million. They want to keep playing Indy football with no bowl tie-ins. If we got a B12 invite, UConn would be There in a New York minutes.

If they got 40 million, probably, but right now the deal is they get maybe 15 million. They’d have to pay 30 million to get that 15 million and then they’d have to pay millions more annually in travel costs. All that for the privilege of being in the most unstable P5 conference. It doesn’t sound very attractive does it?

Now if any other P5 conference, other than the Pac 12, were the offer, sure they make the move.

 

[buddy]

The Big 12 is now Big East football. The power conference that everyone wants to leave. That alone limits them.

They are already leapfrogging us. Nothing to be afraid of.

You cannot compare the Old Big East with the Big 12. The old big east was a fractured conference with football and non football schools. All Big 12 schools are Div I football schools and have much in common. The football schools and the non football schools in the old BE had little in common, and it is still that way today with UConn as an outlier in many ways. The only 2 div 1 football schools left behind in CR from the old Big East are UConn and USF. There is really nowhere for the remaining Big 12 schools to go, and they are getting a pretty good paycheck.

 

[BigTenFan]

You mean we didn't get left behind? Honestly, no one told me. What happened to UConn is explained in the first 2 minutes of this clip.

Great clip from Bloomington IN

 

[Slasher]

The 4 new schools are getting 18-19M a year until 2025. Then they all get full shares. They'll easily get 30M in 2025 when you consider more than 10M a year is from the playoff, bowls, and NCAA tournament credits.

 

[ZooCougar]

You cannot compare the Old Big East with the Big 12. The old big east was a fractured conference with football and non football schools. All Big 12 schools are Div I football schools and have much in common. The football schools and the non football schools in the old BE had little in common, and it is still that way today with UConn as an outlier in many ways. The only 2 div 1 football schools left behind in CR from the old Big East are UConn and USF. There is really nowhere for the remaining Big 12 schools to go, and they are getting a pretty good paycheck.

Sure I can. Among the Big East all sports schools nobody wanted to stay. And that’s exactly what the Big 12 is now.

 

[uchusky32]

If they got 40 million, probably, but right now the deal is they get maybe 15 million. They’d have to pay 30 million to get that 15 million and then they’d have to pay millions more annually in travel costs. All that for the privilege of being in the most unstable P5 conference. It doesn’t sound very attractive does it?

Now if any other P5 conference, other than the Pac 12, were the offer, sure they make the move.

I hear what you're saying 82. Would rather wait and be a backfill in the ACC. That said I think the ACC and PAC or the most unstable now as they have institutions that have value to B10 and SEC. Really don't think there is any value left in B12 for those 2 top conferences.

 

[buddy]

Sure I can. Among the Big East all sports schools nobody wanted to stay. And that’s exactly what the Big 12 is now.

I disagree. Cinci, UCF,and Houston are thrilled to be there. The other schools have no where to go, except possibly Kansas, and they can be replaced in a heartbeat.

 

[buddy]

I hear what you're saying 82. Would rather wait and be a backfill in the ACC. That said I think the ACC and PAC or the most unstable now as they have institutions that have value to B10 and SEC. Really don't think there is any value left in B12 for those 2 top conferences.

Only 14 more years to continue having this discussion then!

 

[ZooCougar]

I disagree. Cinci, UCF,and Houston are thrilled to be there. The other schools have no where to go, except possibly Kansas, and they can be replaced in a heartbeat.

The new converts are the always the hardcore ones. But they would all leave if offered. Just like everyone else in that conference.

 

[bobbyinaz]

Big 12 hires Roc Nation executive Brett Yormark as new commissioner

The Big 12 has a new commissioner, and it looked outside the world of college athletics to fill the role.

sports.yahoo.com

Interesting hire. Another Commissioner from outside the traditional college athletics world.

First order of business is a new TV contract. There have been wild predictions all over the place on what the new B12 contract will look like. The Presidents obviously bought into his vision. I still think the new conference generates $25-30MM/yr for the schools which keeps the existing members close to whole.