If Ollie is going to be our next coach

[uconnfan68]

You think Herbst is going to override Calhoun on something she knows absolutely nothing about? You think she's that stupid?

Actually I think she's pretty sharp, and she WON'T let the process become JC's alone. It's more than just coaching, but I'm sure you understood that.

 

[upstater]

Actually I think she's pretty sharp, and she WON'T let the process become JC's alone. It's more than just coaching, but I'm sure you understood that.

Who will she turn to? Manuel?

 

[upstater]

If he's the kind of person who's that insecure, and that lacking in confidence, I don't think he'd have been chosen as AD.

They are political animals.

 

[jleves]

I would hate to think that UConn just filled two very expensive manager positions with people that they don't trust to make decisions and want them to just listen to JC.

Just saying

 

[upstater]

I would hate to think that UConn just filled two very expensive manager positions with people that they don't trust to make decisions and want them to just listen to JC.

Just saying

Men's bball is like .1% of her budget. She has much more important stuff on her plate, she wasn't hired to oversee men's bball, and although it may take up say 5% of her time because of its relative importance, no one hired her for her basketball expertise.

 

[cytolliver]

i have no problem with calhoun saying his peace on who he thinks should be the next head coach. But in no way should he decide, Manuel and probably Herbst will ultimately make the decision. But not after they have consulted with JC, he deserves to have a say just not the deciding one

 

[uconnfan68]

Men's bball is like .1% of her budget. She has much more important stuff on her plate, she wasn't hired to oversee men's bball, and although it may take up say 5% of her time because of its relative importance, no one hired her for her basketball expertise.

No, but she was hired to make the final decisions, not let someone else make them for her. Seriously, .1%? Math challenged?

 

[upstater]

No, but she was hired to make the final decisions, not let someone else make them for her. Seriously, .1%? Math challenged?

Oh for heaven's sake. I just came up with a number knowing it was very low. Jeez. But, now that I look it up, the numbers are: $1.03 billion budget and (according to this: http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/expense_stat/show?school_id=26) $5.5 million for basketball expenses (I'll multiply by 20% since the athletic budget rose by $10 million to $58 million) = $6.1 million bball budget.

So the actual number is around .59% of the total budget. Miniscule.

She can make all the final decisions she wants, but she knows as much about the difference between Shaka Smart and Kevin Ollie as I do. That's why presidents, who sign off on EVERY single hire in sports or academics or even tenure reviews, have their rubber stamps handy. Because they use that stamp a lot after relying on advice from the experts. Who are the experts? There's only one on campus right now: Jim Calhoun.

 

[uconnfan68]

Oh for heaven's sake. I just came up with a number knowing it was very low. Jeez. But, now that I look it up, the numbers are: $1.03 billion budget and (according to this: http://www2.indystar.com/NCAA_financial_reports/expense_stat/show?school_id=26) $5.5 million for basketball expenses (I'll multiply by 20% since the athletic budget rose by $10 million to $58 million) = $6.1 million bball budget.

So the actual number is around .59% of the total budget. Miniscule.

She can make all the final decisions she wants, but she knows as much about the difference between Shaka Smart and Kevin Ollie as I do. That's why presidents, who sign off on EVERY single hire in sports or academics or even tenure reviews, have their rubber stamps handy. Because they use that stamp a lot after relying on advice from the experts. Who are the experts? There's only one on campus right now: Jim Calhoun.

600% off? miniscule. ;^) no worries...
I expect her to be very involved as she is determined to get the RIGHT people in place. She may not know anything about basketball, but she damned sure knows about leadership, and what she wants to put forward as a face of the university. Do I expect she would welcome JC's input? Absolutely! She's no one's fool from what I have seen so far.

 

[upstater]

600% off? miniscule. ;^) no worries...
I expect her to be very involved as she is determined to get the RIGHT people in place. She may not know anything about basketball, but she damned sure knows about leadership, and what she wants to put forward as a face of the university. Do I expect she would welcome JC's input? Absolutely! She's no one's fool from what I have seen so far.

I guessed within less than .5% of the figure. If you asked me ahead of time if I could get that close, I'd say, "Not likely."

The point is, Presidents don't know. They never do in these cases. The question is, who do they believe are the experts? Who will they listen to?

 

[uconnfan68]

I guessed within less than .5% of the figure. If you asked me ahead of time if I could get that close, I'd say, "Not likely."

The point is, Presidents don't know. They never do in these cases. The question is, who do they believe are the experts? Who will they listen to?

Anyone chosen to be the next coach will be a crapshoot. We don't know what will happen when JC leaves. We don't know whether HIS choice is the right one, because there is no evidence in any area (in his pick, KO, or in his history of choosing successors). We can only trust that enough people care about the decision that it becomes the best one. I can live with KO, if he's the choice of everyone in the process. I just think there needs to be a process.

 

[DogMania]

The one thing I like about granting Ollie the coach-in-waiting label is that it would probably help with our 2012 & 13 recruiting. Why? Because it would keep the door open for JC to coach the team and mentor KO next year or two, while giving the recruits that like KO some assurance of continuity. If they don't end up getting coached by JC they would at least be coached by an apprentice that they've come to like.

For those who don't want any more of JC for whatever reason or those who aren't sold on KO probably don't like this idea in the least.

I'd be lying if I wasn't concerned about the impact of JC coaching the next year or two without a coach in waiting designation, but that didn't seem to prevent the program from winning NC #3 last year and pulling in a solid 2011 recruiting class and getting a very good 2013 in Omar Calhoun. Now those results don't guarantee recruiting and on the court results won't be impacted moving forward. For those who feel that the last two recruiting classes weren't as good as many felt and that Kemba made up for a lot that was deficient might feel the 2011-12 results were impacted of this.

Although JC and the staff swung and missed at many plan-A & B recruits the past couple seasons and settled for some plan-Cs that were still pretty highly ranked, those types of results weren't really all that different than what we've been seeing since I can remember. Here's a list of recruits that weren't on the radar early and were offered after swinging and missing on others at their position that have had a big impact on UConn: Emeka, Hash, Hilton and even Kemba. Although Kemba was a fall signee, the staff seemed to want Jennings and maybe some other PGs before they locked onto Kemba late in the summer when he began to blow up.

Getting back to the main point, there's no way of telling if announcing KO as the coach-in-waiting would have a positive impact on recruiting or not. And as many have pointed out, there's no way of knowing if KO would be any better or worse than bringing in an outsider to coach UConn into the next chapter of its existence.