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I’m fine getting rid of a three game MTE. It almost guarantees you are going to play a non-P4 team.

A two-game MTE at MSG with a field like Tennessee, Louisville, and Ohio State makes more sense.

Then schedule Syracuse every year home and home. Then three other P4 schools home and home. Say Duke, Rutgers, and Ole Miss. One blue blood, one regional school, and one SEC team. This would allow us to play one home game against a P4 at both XL and Gampel.

The five remaining games can be against cupcakes. Preferably two in-state opponents (Yale yearly), one other Ivy League school, one HBCU, and either New Hampshire or Maine for regional flair.
 
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I’m fine getting rid of a three game MTE. It almost guarantees you are going to play a non-P4 team.

A two-game MTE at MSG with a field like Tennessee, Louisville, and Ohio State makes more sense.

Then schedule Syracuse every year home and home. Then three other P4 schools home and home. Say Duke, Rutgers, and Ole Miss. One blue blood, one regional school, and one SEC team. This would allow us to play one home game against a P4 at both XL and Gampel.

The five remaining games can be against cupcakes. Preferably two in-state opponents (Yale yearly), one other Ivy League school, one HBCU, and either New Hampshire or Maine for regional flair.
Why would we play h/h against a school like Ole Miss? There is no juice there. Rutgers and Syracuse I get since they are regional and former conference mates
 

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Why would we play h/h against a school like Ole Miss? There is no juice there. Rutgers and Syracuse I get since they are regional and former conference mates
We can’t play a murderer’s row for all six P4 games. One has to be a lesser program. Don’t forget: we played Auburn before they were good.
 

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I just saw a video of Hurley talking about the early season tournaments, and what he said was a bit odd.

paraphrasing: "I'm not interested in playing in one again, at least if I'm still at UConn."

If he gets an offer to coach in the pros, and leaves, I'll wish him all the luck in the world. I'm assuming that is what he was referring to. I can't imagine why he would ever leave for any other college position. There is no better college coaching position better than UConn. The only exception would/could be coaching where he played for four years (Seton Hall?).
I read it as a self deprecating reference to the team's mediocre showing at Maui bringing up, at least in a somewhat light hearted way the feeling that if he didn't turn it around quickly, he'd be on a very short leash.
 
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Then post the quote from Hurley.
Inyatkin sent you the article where Hurley and Benedict talk about this likely being their last event of this kind because it no longer makes sense for the University/program.
 
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Then post the quote from Hurley.
“What does it cost us to travel to events?," Benedict asked, rhetorically. "How much revenue do we derive? What are we giving up by not playing a home game? Those are all things that we're factoring into that equation. And so, we're working with lots of different promoters and media companies right now to evaluate creating the best path forward, so we manage the schedule the way that Coach Hurley wants, but is also the best for us financially."
For Hurley, that likely means more home-and-home series vs. powerful non-conference foes, as the Huskies have recently started with Texas and have done in the past with Florida and other programs.


We don’t need a direct quote from Hurley. In the article Benedict made it clear that part of the reason is Hurley wants more home and homes instead. He’s been pushing this for 2 years now. If you don’t think this move is being made with what Hurley wants in mind I don’t know what to tell you. Hurley wanted to replace 3 games MTE’s with home and homes before the tournament. Thats just a fact.
 

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Inyatkin sent you the article where Hurley and Benedict talk about this likely being their last event of this kind because it no longer makes sense for the University/program.

'Would anyone at UConn have said the same thing three, four, five, or six years ago? No.

Making such a decision after TWO great seasons, is foolish. Repeating this after losing three games in a tournament they were expected to win, was moronic.

If playing a MTE isn't in UConn's best interest in the future, then STFU and politely decline an invite.

Cooley was right - spoiled and arrogant. Every team is a couple bad seasons away from begging to be invited to play in Maui, or any number of MTE.
 
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'Would anyone at UConn have said the same thing three, four, five, or six years ago? No.

Making such a decision after TWO great seasons, is foolish. Repeating this after losing three games in a tournament they were expected to win, was moronic.

Cooley was right - spoiled and arrogant. Every team is a couple bad seasons away from begging to be invited to play in Maui.

If playing a MTE isn't in UConn's best interest, then STFU and politely decline an invite.
Again you’re wrong.

Would anyone at UConn have been trying to get into the B12 6 years ago? This line of thinking is flawed when you take into account the changing landscape of college athletics. And how the way money is spent has to drastically change for teams outside of the power 4 conferences.

The distinction is 3 game MTEs that require expensive travel. A bunch of teams decided not to participate in those this year(Duke, Purdue, Kansas, etc) and that will continue to be the trend. Look at the Maui field next year.

If your point is it was bad timing for Hurley. Cool. To say he only said it because he lost is “moronic” when we literally have information at our fingertips that tells us that isn’t true.
 

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Again you’re wrong.

The distinction is 3 game MTEs that require expensive travel. A bunch of teams decided not to participate in those this year(Duke, Purdue, Kansas, etc) and that will continue to be the trend. Look at the Maui field next year.

If your point is it was bad timing for Hurley. Cool. To say he only said it because he lost is “moronic” when we literally have information at our fingertips that tells us that isn’t true.

'The expense was worth it prior to winning back-2-back championships, and it will be worth it again after two or three losing years.

Im not saying the rationale is wrong, after winning back-2-back championships. I'm saying having said it, was wrong.
 

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'Would anyone at UConn have said the same thing three, four, five, or six years ago? No.

Making such a decision after TWO great seasons, is foolish. Repeating this after losing three games in a tournament they were expected to win, was moronic.

If playing a MTE isn't in UConn's best interest in the future, then STFU and politely decline an invite.

Cooley was right - spoiled and arrogant. Every team is a couple bad seasons away from begging to be invited to play in Maui, or any number of MTE.
It's not about spoiled or arrogant. It costs us money to play these events. We make way more money doing local one day events (like Gonzaga in Brookly coming up, coaches for Cancer etc.) and just playing home and homes against good programs.

The UConn AD can't afford it anymore. Given our profile, we also don't need the exposure. Some programs may find these events are still worthwhile because they need the exposure.
 
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'Would anyone at UConn have said the same thing three, four, five, or six years ago? No.

Making such a decision after TWO great seasons, is foolish. Repeating this after losing three games in a tournament they were expected to win, was moronic.

If playing a MTE isn't in UConn's best interest in the future, then STFU and politely decline an invite.

Cooley was right - spoiled and arrogant. Every team is a couple bad seasons away from begging to be invited to play in Maui, or any number of MTE.
Hope the UCONN fan base is not becoming (or has become) just like the Yankee fan base. (from a Mets fan).
 
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Hope the UCONN fan base is becoming (or has become) just like the Yankee fan base. (from a Mets fan).
It's a mix of both Yankee and Redsox fan bases ( it's literally true) NY arrogance and Boston pessimism.
 
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It's a mix of both Yankee and Redsox fan bases ( it's literally true) NY arrogance and Boston pessimism.
I thought I edited my post - it should say NOT becoming (or has become) just like the Yankee fan base
 

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Hope the UCONN fan base is not becoming (or has become) just like the Yankee fan base. (from a Mets fan).

I love the fact UConn men's basketball has spread out six championships over 25 years. They've risen from the ashes every time after even a few bad years. By any realistic definition, that's a Blue Blood program.

Even if this is a down year, I have no doubt Hurley/UConn will rebuild. And I don't think this will be a down year.
 

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It's not about spoiled or arrogant. It costs us money to play these events. We make way more money doing local one day events (like Gonzaga in Brookly coming up, coaches for Cancer etc.) and just playing home and homes against good programs.

The UConn AD can't afford it anymore. Given our profile, we also don't need the exposure. Some programs may find these events are still worthwhile because they need the exposure.

Then decline playing in the tournament rather than imply UConn is too good to make the trip. When the AD agreed to play, it made sense. From that point on, he should have kept quiet. What he said was rude, and looked foolish after three loses.
 

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Danny’s still worried about getting fired. lol
Doubt he’d ever consider Seton Hall. They can’t compete in today’s environment.
This is what I took it to mean—him being self criticizing and saying he wasn’t guaranteed to not be fired at some point.
 
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I thought I edited my post - it should say NOT becoming (or has become) just like the Yankee fan base
I hate to break it to you but I would say it's already there, we created a monster, it is what it is.
 
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I just saw a video of Hurley talking about the early season tournaments, and what he said was a bit odd.

paraphrasing: "I'm not interested in playing in one again, at least if I'm still at UConn."

If he gets an offer to coach in the pros, and leaves, I'll wish him all the luck in the world. I'm assuming that is what he was referring to. I can't imagine why he would ever leave for any other college position. There is no better college coaching position better than UConn. The only exception would/could be coaching where he played for four years (Seton Hall?).

I heard that quote and just meshed it with the early-season, pre-Maui pressers where he (and Benedict) have frequently expressed the desire to have UConn play more marquee home-and-home, MSG-type single game matchups with the creme-de-la-creme of CBB.

UConn is in that upper echelon (no matter how people try to say we aren't), and he wants our early season OOC games to not be dumped into a 3-game-in-3-day MTE and look something more like:

1-2 creampuffs, then Duke at Gampel
1-2 creampuffs, then Kansas at Allen
1-2 creampuffs, then UNC at MSG
 

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UConn is in that upper echelon (no matter how people try to say we aren't), and he wants our early season OOC games to not be dumped into a 3-game-in-3-day MTE and look something more like:

UConn is CURRENTLY in that upper echelon ...

Burning bridges is the act of a fool. Politely decline future invites if they don't make sense at the time, but leave the option open for the future ...
 

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Then decline playing in the tournament rather than imply UConn is too good to make the trip. When the AD agreed to play, it made sense. From that point on, he should have kept quiet. What he said was rude, and looked foolish after three loses.
I agree with you that Hurley shouldn't have said it how and when he said it. It created a false perception that we were dodging these events because we lost and the refs were bad. Instead the decision was made before we ever played and had nothing to do with those results.
 
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I just saw a video of Hurley talking about the early season tournaments, and what he said was a bit odd.

paraphrasing: "I'm not interested in playing in one again, at least if I'm still at UConn."

If he gets an offer to coach in the pros, and leaves, I'll wish him all the luck in the world. I'm assuming that is what he was referring to. I can't imagine why he would ever leave for any other college position. There is no better college coaching position better than UConn. The only exception would/could be coaching where he played for four years (Seton Hall?).
I think you're reaching here. I would not take everything Hurley says so literally like you are doing.
 

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