Ice Brady is the best post since Breanna Stewart

[Stymie]

Off season is early April thru early November. During those 7 months :

20% of BY threads are "who will start".
20% of BY threads are "comparisons".
20% of BY threads are "OT Songs".

Do you really want to eliminate 20% of BY threads?

Maybe just eliminate the GOAT threads for someone who has not yet participated in a Pre Game Warm Up??

 

[darkstar1]

Before I even say it, here's who isn't the best post since Breanna:

Azura Stevens - 6'6 but didn't stay long enough or play in the post long enough
Napheesa Collier- 6'1 and frame limited her
Gabby Williams - she was 5'11 but great
Kiah Stokes - she was prior to Breanna
Aaliyah Edwards - Sophomore season was under a witch's spell
Olivia Nelson-Ododa - Defensively better but limited in paint production because everything else she had to

Ice Brady will be that girl. She's 6'3, one inch taller but just as wide as Tuck, with a nice jumper and who's coming off an Olympic summer. She can pass from high, bang down low, make mid-range jumpers/open 3's and will draw a lot of fouls. Geno's going to use her like a chess piece just like Breanna.

No discredit to Dorka, Aaliyah or Amari. But Ice Brady in the paint looks scarier than anyone else on the roster

I love your enthusiasm, but a bit of a discredit to Pheesa, the best undersized post I’ve ever seen play. I think what you are hoping for is a Pheesa with added height. That would = 1st team AA as a freshman!

 

[Carnac]

Off season is early April thru early November. During those 7 months :

20% of BY threads are "who will start".
20% of BY threads are "comparisons".
20% of BY threads are "OT Songs".

Do you really want to eliminate 20% of BY threads?

Not really. I have more faith in my fellow Boneyarders because I believe they are the most intelligent and informed posters on the world wide web, that they can be more creative than this. Forgive me for my impatience for posts of that nature.

I understand this forum is not about me!! I understand and have no problem with ANYONE that wants to post this type of comment or concern. That is what makes the Boneyard so popular and inviting to others. I personally just don't like comparisons. They serve no purpose. They do make great fodder for discussion, nothing more.

What is gained by comparing Olivia Nelson-Ododa (ONO) to any of the post players that came before her (or to Aliyah Boston)? She's gone. Her stats and legacy is what it is. She did the best she could, but according to observations by fans here and the media, she fell short of the expectations people had for her. Boston had a better freshman year (won more awards) than ONO did in any of her 4 years here. Comparing Brady to Stewart is not going to make her play any better or worse. So what's the point?

Fans wanted to compare incoming freshman Crystal Dangerfield to the recently departed Moriah Jefferson. Why?!? Who benefits from that comparison? Certainly not Crystal. She was already under enough pressure trying to come in and learn the system on the fly and get into the rotation. You're comparing a raw 18 year old high school player with a grown, seasoned and matured 21 year old player that was one of the best (and quickest) point guards in UConn history, that just had a great senior year. Two players on the opposite ends of the spectrum. What am I missing here?

Please don't mind me, compare players all you wish. If/when I come across a post/thread of this nature that does not interest me, I'll simply move on. No harm, no foul. Compare all you want to. Fans and media are "obsessed" with constantly comparing LeBron James to Michael Jordan, and will continue to until the end of time. I understand the fascination for some folks to do so. it's the nature of the beast. So compare away.

 

[Tonyc]

When Stewie was a teenager and I dont remember her age I got a phone call from a friend who saw her play. His daughters played with and against some of the all time NY Great Women HS players. He told me he had just seen the greatest female basketball player ever. He said she can run like a gazelle, shoot like Diana, dribble like Sue Bird and can grab the rim and she was 6'3. I said what is her name. He told me Breanna Stewart. He then said she wants to play for Geno and UConn and only them. Stewie turned out pretty good. She did it all and imo one of her greatest attributes was her anticipation. I too do not like comparing players especially from different eras because the game changes all the time. I will say this. ICE is big has alot of terrific qualities and with UConn developing her well the sky is the limit. Her size and height along with her ability to create can make her one of the all time greats. We will wait and see because everybody around her is so darn good.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I haven't read the thread. When I first saw it all I could think of was why are we anointing someone who has yet to play a college game. Naturally I hope she's wonderful, but I think we are more than a bit ahead of ourselves. No, don't throw Paige at me. Paige is different. Geno told her it was her team to lead when she had yet to play a game.

 

[CocoHusky]

I've seen Barkley described as quick and fast online but I'm not buying it. Quick for a big bulky guy maybe. I was surprised to see his vertical leap at 39" so that is definitive and I stand corrected on that. The bottom line of my point though is that even relatively short bulky players can often be great rebounders and Barkley is an obvious example of that. Wes Unseld and others. He was reputed to be closer to 6' 4" than 6" 6" but was listed as 6' 6". I think strength is an important rebounding attribute. Look at how many players are tall and get their hands on the ball but somehow lose the rebound to a stronger player. Quick reflexes are different than quick foot speed right? Quick reflexes are possibly more important than foot speed for rebounding. It's like getting a jump on a baseball in Center field. Some players are much better at it than others. There are lots of factors in becoming a good rebounder. Effort, intensity, commitment, blocking out, positioning...lots of factors.

If you have to go online to know what kind of player Charles Barkley was you are probably going down the wrong path. Suggest you rely on the numerous posters in this thread that are trying to educate to something of which they had first hand experience. If you want to know what kind of player Barley was as a college play go read about the 1984 US Olympic trials where Barkley was the second best player at the trials and one of 3 future HoF players that were cut from that team.

 

[Alydar]

Starting to compare someone to the best player on the planet, before they have played a single college game is foolish.
Let her at least get to college and start playing, then you have a body of work.
A full season would be enough, and of course a championship. Stewie got 4.

Before I even say it, here's who isn't the best post since Breanna:

Azura Stevens - 6'6 but didn't stay long enough or play in the post long enough
Napheesa Collier- 6'1 and frame limited her
Gabby Williams - she was 5'11 but great
Kiah Stokes - she was prior to Breanna
Aaliyah Edwards - Sophomore season was under a witch's spell
Olivia Nelson-Ododa - Defensively better but limited in paint production because everything else she had to

Ice Brady will be that girl. She's 6'3, one inch taller but just as wide as Tuck, with a nice jumper and who's coming off an Olympic summer. She can pass from high, bang down low, make mid-range jumpers/open 3's and will draw a lot of fouls. Geno's going to use her like a chess piece just like Breanna.

No discredit to Dorka, Aaliyah or Amari. But Ice Brady in the paint looks scarier than anyone else on the roster

Will someone who is saying that the OP is "comparing" Brady to Stewart please point out where that is said in the OP or the thread title. Saying that "A" is the best anything since "B" does not imply that A is better than B.
To my eyes Brady has the most suitable body to play in the paint for UConn since Stokes and I hope she just plays the way she knows and doesn't get hung up on being the next whomever.

 

[Alydar]

I'm just hoping that Ice is a competent back-up and change of pace to Dorka, who I think is going to have a great last season as a Husky!

Funny but I see Brady playing the 5 as long as her fouls last. Juhasz looked her best last season at the 4 where her height and outside game allowed her to dominate, especially on the offensive boards. But she is not an inside banger. Brady may want to roam the perimeter and appears to have tools to do it but her value this year will be trading hip checks with opposing 5's. That's why Geno wants her in the weight room.

 

[Alydar]

A better comparison may be Dolson coming in as a freshman and Brady doing the same now. Brady has better tools than Dolson did in her 1st summer. Now we need to see if she has Dolson's fire. Everything I've seen is very encouraging.

 

[Bigboote]

A better comparison may be Dolson coming in as a freshman and Brady doing the same now. Brady has better tools than Dolson did in her 1st summer. Now we need to see if she has Dolson's fire. Everything I've seen is very encouraging.

I was thinking the same thing (about all three of your posts for that matter). I think she has all the skills of a forward -- great handle, range to her shot -- but I'm really (really) hoping she spends most of her time at the 5. I also hope she spends some time with Alex Blazell. Ice seems to have the germ of Napheesa in her. The footwork, up-and-under moves, and fallaway -- I can't WAIT to see this young woman after Jamelle and CD have worked with her a little.

 

[AzzisBraids]

Isuneh Brady can be great (and I believe she will be as she grows and matures) without being compared with anyone. Different player, different era, different teammates. The staff MUST hone and and perfect her skills so that they blend in and mesh with her current teammates.

After all, those are the players she's on the floor with. I hope Brady and Patterson focus and concentrate on being the best players they can be, being true to themselves and playing within their skills and abilities. In other words......."Do you". Be you!!!

They don't need to be compared to anyone else. They both have the potential of being great players just being who they are. They will be under enough scrutiny and pressure without any additional "comparisons" or expectations from fans or media. I hope they both adopt the thought that Sammy Davis Jr. sang about in his version of "I gotta be me"

I agree, I didn't compare her to anyone. I just said she was the best post since Breanna. If anything I compared Breanna to everyone else. But I appreciate your post and look forward to vining in the future

 

[AzzisBraids]

Will someone who is saying that the OP is "comparing" Brady to Stewart please point out where that is said in the OP or the thread title. Saying that "A" is the best anything since "B" does not imply that A is better than B.
To my eyes Brady has the most suitable body to play in the paint for UConn since Stokes and I hope she just plays the way she knows and doesn't get hung up on being the next whomever.

!!!!! Thanks for eloquently writing was I was thinking I should have said highest rated or most post oriented in hindsight but this was my logic. Was not comparing her to Breanna or legacy, she's just looks like the best post in recent years since Stewie.

 

[AzzisBraids]

A better comparison may be Dolson coming in as a freshman and Brady doing the same now. Brady has better tools than Dolson did in her 1st summer. Now we need to see if she has Dolson's fire. Everything I've seen is very encouraging.

I kind of agree. Dolson came in with super effort, excellent passer, 6-5, excellent screener and she learned her offensive tools. Ice is a lefty with a serious jumper, 6'3, she seems more offensively versatile which is why I chose Stewie. Also the player she models her game after and why she chose UConn