I still strongly believe Edsall is a terrible hire

[businesslawyer]

There is no "love fest." I can't think of one poster here who was rooting for this result. What there is is a knowledge that we are better off than last week and the hope that we can recover a program where going to football games was fun.

Everyone knows Randy Edsall isn't Les Miles. No one minds discussing apprehensions. But, apparently, many UConn fans besides myself aren't in a mode to hear outrage even if in hiring him we're "just" trying to get back to 8 win seasons being normal.

 

[DefCONNOne]

There is no "love fest." I can't think of one poster here who was rooting for this result. What there is is a knowledge that we are better off than last week and the hope that we can recover a program where going to football games was fun.

Everyone knows Randy Edsall isn't Les Miles. No one minds discussing apprehensions. But, apparently, many UConn fans besides myself aren't in a mode to hear outrage even if in hiring him we're "just" trying to get back to 8 win seasons being normal.

You are wrong about there being no love fest, and I can name 1 poster who was rooting for this hire. Two if you think I'm full of it regarding your perceived non-love fest.

 

[Excalibur]

There is no "love fest." I can't think of one poster here who was rooting for this result.

Can't tell if serious . . .

 

[businesslawyer]

I won't pretend that I care what you think

Good comeback. So are coaches who go 6-6 at Michigan and Indiana equal? I missed your answer in your insult.

 

[PRHusky]

There is no "love fest." I can't think of one poster here who was rooting for this result. What there is is a knowledge that we are better off than last week and the hope that we can recover a program where going to football games was fun.

Everyone knows Randy Edsall isn't Les Miles. No one minds discussing apprehensions. But, apparently, many UConn fans besides myself aren't in a mode to hear outrage even if in hiring him we're "just" trying to get back to 8 win seasons being normal.

If Skiblets and SDHuksky's posts are not love fests, then I do not know what a love fest is.

 

[businesslawyer]

If Skiblets and SDHuksky's posts are not love fests, then I do not know what a love fest is.

Look, I understand it's semantics to some extent but SDHusky wasn't out there saying hire Edsall. Neither was Skiblets. In their perfect world, everyone would have had another choice. But the choice having been made, as I said, we are light years ahead of where we were and while (and I"m only going to speak for myself but I can tell others feel the same) it's fine to point out Edsall's flaws and weaknesses, the last six years have sucked and I don't need people telling me we didn't have it better between 6 and 10 years ago or he can't get us back to what he did the first time.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

oh, Jesus

Yes, take out all of the losses that for some reason don't count. But then let's take out the FCS wins. But then should we count the FCS losses as double? And then let's divide the ranked team losses by 1.5x, because he was in trailers! and then let's multiply the ranked team wins, I mean win, by 5x, because he was in trailers!

Apologista in overdrive. You have gone off the deep end.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who can't figure out what part of comparative statistics you're missing.

But I'll bite. I removed the FCS and transitional pre-Rentschler years because Randy was competing with a team he recruited from a trailer, with no practice facility, no stadium (in earlier cases), and no major (or any) conference affiliation. All of these factors, except with respect to calling the AAC a "major" conference, are nonexistent now as well as the years I quoted. Thus, comparing his record when he was forming and coaching a team with these challenges and obstacles to his record when those same factors did not and still do not exist is foolish.

 

[UConnNick]

Look, I understand it's semantics to some extent but SDHusky wasn't out there saying hire Edsall. Neither was Skiblets. In their perfect world, everyone would have had another choice. But the choice having been made, as I said, we are light years ahead of where we were and while (and I"m only going to speak for myself but I can tell others feel the same) it's fine to point out Edsall's flaws and weaknesses, the last six years have sucked and I don't need people telling me we didn't have it better between 6 and 10 years ago or he can't get us back to what he did the first time.

What has occurred here wasn't really a choice. What likely happened is either Bob Burton, or some combination of donors probably including him, ponied up 3.4 million clams to get Crazy Bobby on the Merritt Parkway headed for the state line. The only real choice was whether or not the administration should have accepted the buyout money donation with strings attached. It likely puts a big donor or donors in the position of dictating athletic dept. decisions. That might become a slippery slope going forward, but the alternative would have been to do nothing and the lunatic is back to coach another season.

So, what we all need to ask ourselves is whether or not we're better off with the donors' hand picked choice, or another year of DiwhackoBall? I think most die hard Husky fans will answer that question on Edsall's side, even though some harbor the belief that we might have done better with a nationwide search.

 

[joey3$trike$]

I would like to hear his recruiting pitch about loyalty and passion for the university when he left them at the altar for shiny new uniforms and the blonde floozy! The characteristics that he believes in left 6 years ago, the ceiling was met and won't be back for years. Lots of hoping to be a 7 win team and then wha

 

[jpm25]

Glad to see I'm not the only one who can't figure out what part of comparative statistics you're missing.

But I'll bite. I removed the FCS and transitional pre-Rentschler years because Randy was competing with a team he recruited from a trailer, with no practice facility, no stadium (in earlier cases), and no major (or any) conference affiliation. All of these factors, except with respect to calling the AAC a "major" conference, are nonexistent now as well as the years I quoted. Thus, comparing his record when he was forming and coaching a team with these challenges and obstacles to his record when those same factors did not and still do not exist is foolish.

ok

 

[jpm25]

Good comeback. So are coaches who go 6-6 at Michigan and Indiana equal? I missed your answer in your insult.

In the RE example, you are confusing "context" with "excuse". I think your point might be "well, it depends, who did they win against or lose to?" And I get that.

Of course there is context in every situation, but you are leaning on it to make an excuse. I respect your passion, but you just simply are not objective in your reasoning. UConn owes RE, I think, right?

I really don't care what you think, and that's not an insult. I have read your post game analyses, and doubt you have ever player or coached a down of football based on them. But again, I do respect your passion.

 

[huskymedic]

I have read your post game analyses, and doubt you have ever player or coached a down of football based on them..

For those of us who may not know based on your posting history... have you played or coached (and if you have what level and years).

 

[businesslawyer]

In the RE example, you are confusing "context" with "excuse". I think your point might be "well, it depends, who did they win against or lose to?" And I get that.

Of course there is context in every situation, but you are leaning on it to make an excuse. I respect your passion, but you just simply are not objective in your reasoning. UConn owes RE, I think, right?

I really don't care what you think, and that's not an insult. I have read your post game analyses, and doubt you have ever player or coached a down of football based on them. But again, I do respect your passion.

Not making an excuse for the first Edsall tenure because he doesn't need it.

And I did not play competitive football. Have been very clear on that.

 

[weyuo]

The thing that bothers me about the hire is that it doesn't matter what Boneyard posters think of it. It matters what the perception across the country is when UConn hires back a HC that bailed on them for greener pastures and then failed miserably when he got there to the point of getting fired. What does that say about UConn? Does it say that the university can't attract a successful head coach? That they can't afford a top coach? Recruits are recruits. They are either coming here or not for a myriad of reasons but for conference AD's and the schools they preside over, potential casual fans, the media(which can help or hurt perception) it looks like UConn either doesn't care or can't upgrade their football program. Just like everyone else I want Edsall to do good but for some in here trumpeting Edsall's accomplishments and poo pooing the posters that aren't just giddy with excitement you need to back off the insults.

As for that comment about Burton and a few other donors dictating who the head coach should be that is a disturbing revelation but what can you do? They are the ones willing to put their money where their opinion is. It sucks but it's reality.

 

[sdhusky]

The thing that bothers me about the hire is that it doesn't matter what Boneyard posters think of it. It matters what the perception across the country is when UConn hires back a HC that bailed on them for greener pastures and then failed miserably when he got there to the point of getting fired. What does that say about UConn? Does it say that the university can't attract a successful head coach? That they can't afford a top coach? Recruits are recruits. They are either coming here or not for a myriad of reasons but for conference AD's and the schools they preside over, potential casual fans, the media(which can help or hurt perception) it looks like UConn either doesn't care or can't upgrade their football program. Just like everyone else I want Edsall to do good but for some in here trumpeting Edsall's accomplishments and poo pooing the posters that aren't just giddy with excitement you need to back off the insults.

As for that comment about Burton and a few other donors dictating who the head coach should be that is a disturbing revelation but what can you do? They are the ones willing to put their money where their opinion is. It sucks but it's reality.

Winning cures all.

PP and Diaco couldn't win at UConn. Randy could. Maybe still can.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

There are a few valid criticisms of Edsall's first run here.

His record against ranked teams. He rarely beat the teams he wasn't supposed to beat. On the flip side he rarely lost to teams he shouldn't either.

Other than Orlovsky we never recruited the QB position well at all. We had a few that showed promise but for one reason or another didn't live up to their potential (Lorenzen - injury, Endres - weed).

Recruiting on the OL dropped dramatically the last few years of Edsall's tenure. Whether this was a result of coaching or recruiting, we'll never know. But a lot of the kids we signed from 08-10 either left, never showed up, or didn't play at a good enough level.

When people knock his overall record they lose me. Everyone knows there's context that's being willfully ignored.

I also love the knock on recruiting. Sure, if you look at those pay sites who rip people off, on paper his classes sucked. But when you win enough games and produce as much NFL talent as he has, I'll go with Edsall's evaluation of a player over Fat Mike Farrell's.

 

[weyuo]

Winning cures all.

PP and Diaco couldn't win at UConn. Randy could. Maybe still can.

I'm sure hoping he can.