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Since I didn't see her range in high school and have only the few shots she taken in college as the only sample I've seen. Her shot which is a set shot and not a jump shot and requires spotting up with clearance.

I see her early success like that Caroline had and then Tiff had before anyone was accounting for them on D.

I expect her to continue on Tiff's adaption because of the low from the shoulder shot. Or the staff may work with her to adapt her shot to more classic form high from the brow. We will see.

You haven't watched any of the videos? While she does shoot it from the shoulder, she gets the shot off very quickly. I don't see any issue. It's the same style as Maggie Lucus. She has turned out fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=y71-ZcP_ST0
 

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I've always read the comment as meaning "doesn't try to create things that aren't available/appropriate in this particular game/situation". Like not trying to slash against an effective zone defense, or not taking 3-pointers when your bigs are getting good position inside.

i.e. being able to adapt to the situation to get the highest probability of success


Yup. Or "taking what the defense gives you".
 

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Having watched a bit of Chong's h.s. videos I would venture to say she is just as explosive to the hoop as Mo, is exceptionally good with her left (off) hand, and is a very good finisher. She will command the same space from the defender as Mo I think. My comments have no relationship to who is going to start now or in March.
 

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It's got to be extremely scary for opposing teams to hear Geno say our likely SG for next year reminds him of Sue Bird in regard to her ability to get the ball to the right place (which only she sees) at the right time in an inexplicable manner.

And, it's incredibly unlikely that Geno starts a freshman point guard. I believe it'd be unprecedented in non-injury scenarios.


Uh...amigo... Guess who. ;)
Freshman year
She started 35 of the Huskies' 37 games at point guard and was named 2006 Big East Freshman of the Year.

However, I do think that MoJet continues to start for the season, bar injury. She was a very decent 3-point shooter in HS, and Saniya is a potent force off the bench.
 
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Let me help Geno with his selection of a fine red wine to be superbly suited for pairing with osso bucco. Should be Red. Italian. Piedmont. Barolo. Luciano Sandrone. 1997.

Sounds great but $250 bucks is out of my price range
 

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You haven't watched any of the videos? While she does shoot it from the shoulder, she gets the shot off very quickly. I don't see any issue. It's the same style as Maggie Lucus. She has turned out fine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=y71-ZcP_ST0
Great you don't I haven't watched those videos. I don't. Stopping making an issue where there isn't one. It is what each of have seen that's all. BTW, it is nothing like Lucas' shot. You really hate it when people tell you there is no disagreement.
 
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I had a feeling someone would post this. Yes, if every game plays out like Stanford, then Saniya might start. BUT, that is highly unlikely. Don't forget MoJeff scored a career high against Hartford. No one is a bigger supporter of Chong than I am, given that she is from Westchester. But this is what I saw watching the game: She hit her first two open threes, where MoJeff and Banks could not. She made a nice pass to Hartley driving to the basket for an assist. For the rest of the time on the court, Chong basically passed the ball as soon as she touched it, kinda like a hot potato. It was Hartley that was trying to make plays, to make something happen. Makes me think Hartley took over as PG when Chong was in with her. It was great that Chong had a good first game, but I don't think it was quite as good as some do. True she didn't commit any turnovers, but I don't remember any time when she tried to test the defense. Isn't that what PG are supposed to do, probe the defense for weaknesses?

One thing I was thinking, what a thrill it must be for Chong to be able to play alongside a player as great as Bria Hartley, an All American caliber player. Takes a lot of pressure off. Another solid reason for High Schoolers to come to UConn, play with the greatest.
 

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First things first. Saniya had a good first game and in a game of high magnitude. Now lets see her continue to build on that without any pressure. Don't forget she is a freshman and she will make freshman mistakes. I do think Saniya will be high in the running for FOY and down the road AA. Lets not rush things for her and let Geno handle how he uses her in the lineup.
 

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So let me think about this a minute - MoJeff has a bad start and misses her 3s so she should lose her starting position to Saniya - but wait, MoJeff has better defense (missed by most in the shot-gate hysteria) so maybe she should not lose her start to Saniya. But the game was under so much better control whilst she was at the point according to some so maybe she should start over MoJeff. No wait, it was Bria who held everyone together so she should start for both herself and MoJeff...O, and Stef was missing her 3-point shot so maybe she should be replaced with KML - but wait, she is injured so forget that Stef stays...no wait, Stef didn't have the stats that Kiah had, plus she is ALWAYS in the upper post and NEVER down low so maybe Kiah should start for her. KML even though she is fabulous was not getting open so she should lose her starting position to Morgan Tuck who was hitting her three's today. Morgan plays post so she could also start for Stef who as we mentioned spends way too much time at the top of the key. Banks, poor thing is rusty so she is off to OZ to borrow the Tin Man's oil can. Stewey, forget that she was MOP of the final four, she shouldn't start at all because she is a shadow of her former self so maybe Stef should start for her since Kiah would be starting for Stef...but then when KML comes back from injury who should she replace in the starting line-up? well, she wasn't getting open so maybe she shouldn't start at all until she can figure out how to out-fox those darn double teams, same with Stewey. Bria, since she was the only one of the starters who performed to fan's expectations should actually be the coach and Geno should be benched because he obviously doesn't know what he is doing and should stay home watching the games whilst playing Candyland with his grandchildren and dining on osso buco, washing it down with a fine red table wine. But if Bria is coaching she obviously cannot play so now we are in real trouble.

See how crazy this gets?

Maybe some of the team managers could help out...

RadyLady, I would have liked this 10 times if I could. It gives me a terrific idea for a new feature. When you see it if you want to take it over I'll defer to the original maestro.
 

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Good points Alum.

I thick one can conclude without dissent (hopefully) that:

1. Chong is the better long range shooter
2. Although she had a sub-par game, Mo is much more a point.
3. Chong seems to be the successor to Hartley (incoming freshman not taken into consideration).
4. Both may very well become stars.

It'll sure be fun watching this play out.
 
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We are two games into the season and some people want to take the starting job away from MoJeff! I love Saniya's game and feel she has a world of potential, but I also love MoJeff and her game. Mo can do a lot of things on the court, and yes she will eventually develop a consistent outside shot. Mo is also an excellent ball handler and will only get better with a little more experience. Saniya's time will come, maybe as soon as next year with the graduation of Bria Hartley. Saniya is a fantastic passer and should be backup to mo, but I think she will be more of a shooting guard then a point guard.
 

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Sounds great but $250 bucks is out of my price range

I was helping Geno with his shopping and I think he can afford it. I recommend Amarone from Dal Forno or Allegrini for you. Google Giada for good recipe for osso bucco.
 

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Let me help Geno with his selection of a fine red wine to be superbly suited for pairing with osso bucco. Should be Red. Italian. Piedmont. Barolo. Luciano Sandrone. 1997.
not a big Barolo fan, personally..

but, an '08 Brunello, and I'm right there with ya!
 

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Guys , guys , let's not go bananas over the flavor of the month....or should I say moment. A couple of good games does not a starting point guard make. Its a long season and it just got started. Before its all over and done MoJeff will have a lot to say about who the starting pg will be. Experience and low turnovers is a big factor when it comes to the starting ball-handler on the UConn team........ Remember last year when Caroline Doty started at point , it was her initiating and stabilizing the offense and low turnover ratio that Geno wanted and not necessarily point production, a la MoJeff..... He felt like he had enough scorers. He didn't want the turnovers. Remember he sat Bria in favor of CD. I see something similar in Geno's handling of MoJeff and Saniya. Maybe I am wrong , but it just reminds me of the Bria/CD situation last year.

And how did last years strategy turn out ?
 

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Great you don't I haven't watched those videos. I don't. Stopping making an issue where there isn't one. It is what each of have seen that's all.
Excuse me?

Stop making an issue?

If you don't want to be challenged, don't post.
 

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Excuse me?

Stop making an issue?

If you don't want to be challenged, don't post.
My point is you're constructing an issue where there isn't one. You are myth making. I don't disagree with 90% of anything you said I fully accept you have seen different things than I have seen, except for Saniya's and Maggie's shots being the same, they because aren't. Saniya's shot is along side her head above her shoulder and Maggie's has her hand right between eyes directly from her forehead. I simply described what I saw. You saw other things, great, you have seen other material and videos, great, you're luckier than I have been. You aren't disagreeing you're just being a pain in the ass.
 
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Nothing like drawing definitive conclusions after 2 games.

ROFLMAO - I have drawn a definitive conclusion that after 2 games. UCONN is far superior to UHartford, and at least 19 points better than "#3" ranked Stanford. Beyond that, many players will step up during the season because of foul trouble, minor (hopefully) injury and illness, and just plain substitution for breathers, experience, and matchups. Some players (God forbid) will even have bad games.

My guess is that Geno will put the pieces of the puzzle together somehow and we will cut down the nets in April.
 

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My point is you're constructing an issue where there isn't one. You are myth making. I don't disagree with 90% of anything you said I fully accept you have seen different things than I have seen, except for Saniya's and Maggie's shots being the same, they because aren't. Saniya's shot is along side her head above her shoulder and Maggie's has her hand right between eyes directly from her forehead. I simply described what I saw. You saw other things, great, you have seen other material and videos, great, you're luckier than I have been. You aren't disagreeing you're just being a pain in the ass.

I am totally disagreeing on your two game assessment of Chong's three point shot.

It IS a jump shot, not a set shot. She shoots it from up to 25 feet. And her release is very quick.

Once she is more comfortable just taking the shot, she will be taking those shots.

You said she will start having her shot blocked when they realized she can shoot them. I find it doubtful that Stanford didn't know. They left her open because Hartley made nice plays to find her. And between her quick release and long range ability, she will not have her shot blocked very often. It certainly won't be a problem.

Ice, enjoy the 6 minutes you will spend watching Chong go for 54 points. Some of her 3 point shots are at least 25 feet.

 

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A shot from the shoulder or chin is not a jump shot. Maya and Diana shot jump shots, Kaleena shoots a jump shot. It is shot from the crown of the brow with both feet leaving the ground hand extending to the rim with the ball rolling up and off the fingertips. The shots Saniya took in the Stanford games were all set shots from the chin and shoulder and rising little more than to the tips of her toes on one and a bunny hop on the other.

What little I could see on the video is at variance to those shots she took. More like a jump shot. As I said is was going only by what I saw against Stanford and Hartford.
 
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A freshman point guard like Jen Rizzotti????
Ah, well. Never been noted for my mid-term memory. Ask me, rather, about things that occurred in 1962 -- that I couldn't remember then, but do now.
 
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It's way too soon to replace Jefferson with Chong. Jefferson had a bad game. She was the best player in the Hartford game. I expect Jefferson to return to form in the Maryland game.[/quot

Agree, she was great against MD in the tournament. We got what, one more possible tough game then Geno can experiment for a month; the cream will rise to the surface.
 

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A shot from the shoulder or chin is not a jump shot. Maya and Diana shot jump shots, Kaleena shoots a jump shot. It is shot from the crown of the brow with both feet leaving the ground hand extending to the rim with the ball rolling up and off the fingertips. The shots Saniya took in the Stanford games were all set shots from the chin and shoulder and rising little more than to the tips of her toes.

What little I could see on the video is at variance to those shots she took. More like a jump shot. As I said is was going only by what I saw against Stanford and Hartford.
A jumper has nothing to do with where a player starts the ball, at the shoulder or at the chin or at the top of the head.

A jumper is a shot where the player jumps to shoot and releases the ball at the top of the jump.

https://www.google.com/#q=definition+jump+shot

I didn't see any difference in her HS jumper and her college jumper.
 

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