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I cannot believe our seniors

All this talk of the '09 team makes me feel better about this team. That team was loaded with freshman who were really talented but not quite ready yet and didn't have any real leadership...they went 15-17 I believe and missed not only the NCAA but the NIT. Two years later? Final four...these kids have a ton of talent and are gaining invaluable experience this year. Who knows in a year or two where they end up.
 
Not sure why you would want Purvis taking more shots. He does what he can, which is only so much when you can't put the ball in the bucket.

If there's one positive (which there really isn't)...the freshman were OK. Vital and Jackson combined for half our points and Durham showed some stuff.
 
Players dribble out the clock all the time in blowouts--probably under coach's instructions.
 
UConnMike04 said:
All this talk of the '09 team makes me feel better about this team. That team was loaded with freshman who were really talented but not quite ready yet and didn't have any real leadership...they went 15-17 I believe and missed not only the NCAA but the NIT. Two years later? Final four...these kids have a ton of talent and are gaining invaluable experience this year. Who knows in a year or two where they end up.
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They developed probably because the injuries gave them playing time. And you need playing time to develop. So it will be understandable to see a delay in Alterique and Terry's play at the start of next season.
 
Before dissecting our boys shortcomings, I would like to say that SMU doesn't miss, and that includes threes. Seems every team we play rains down three's. Although perimeter defense is non existance, still that is a lot of three's. SMU didn't miss anything, 10 footers, 15 footers you name it. Not taking away from our guys playing terrible, but any kind of comeback was a beat down of a couple of three's.
 
BOTH seniors can take this loss on their shoulders
With the team missing another big due to an injury, the team needed AB to step up but he failed
The SMU D were cutting JA off and the team need RP to step it up offensively but he failed
This year for the both of them has basically been a failure
Sad
 
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I know its impossible, but sometimes I wish we could ignore Purvis and Brimah and concentrate on the other players. Or just acknowledge Senior Facey.

After three/four years, these Purvis/Brimah threads are depressing and overwhelming, and distract from anything positive we can garner. It just might not be their fault they are not that good and could have maxed out their talent.
 
gtcam said:
BOTH seniors can take this loss on their shoulders
With the team missing another big due to an injury, the team needed AB to step up but he failed
The SMU D were cutting JA off and the team need RP to step it up offensively but he failed
This year for the both of them has basically been a failure
Sad
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Wow, senior bandwagon basher over here.
 
UChusky916 said:
End of game:

Brimah: 1-4 shooting, 2 pts, 5 reb, 2 TO, 4 fouls. One of which his momentum-shifting technical.
Purvis: 0-7 shooting, 2 pts, 2 reb, 3 ast, 2 TO.
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This is hard to overcome . At this point no amount coaching would help. The only way to deal with this would be to cut playing time and that would've probably happened if we were healthy.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
That's a frustration too. Why does it take 3.5 years for him to become serviceable?

For this reason I have a hard time putting him in the "success" category as far as player development.
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Actually quite the reverse to most - proves they took this long to get what they were teaching them. And with Brimah, well I will say it once again anyone who believes the coaches have ANY fault in his lack of development knows very little about the game,
 
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Purvis never ever helps when inbounding. He is always running away and never looking for the ball. Puts so much pressure on Adams and the inbounder. I think purvis is a great kid but vital should start over him. He should no aggression tonight and his attitude was poor. Brimah at least showed emotion.

Vance keeps impressing and Durham showed he's getting comfortable offensively. Defensively he's still slow. We will not do anything when our best player can't score the ball and has multiple turnovers.
 
UChusky916 said:
End of game:

Brimah: 1-4 shooting, 2 pts, 5 reb, 2 TO, 4 fouls. One of which his momentum-shifting technical.
Purvis: 0-7 shooting, 2 pts, 2 reb, 3 ast, 2 TO.
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Brimah showed effort and emotion. Can't say the same for purvis. Also facey is playing great
 
Kitaman said:
After three/four years, these Purvis/Brimah threads are depressing and overwhelming, and distract from anything positive we can garner. It just might not be their fault they are not that good and could have maxed out their talent.
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Well even though many people haven'tcome to this reasoning until recently, they have been the reason we have had short comings as a team the past 3-4 seasons. Purvis is a total bust (expectations wise) with the worst BBIQ for a UConn #1 option I've ever seen. And brimah at the end of the day was the 250ish recruit in his class. Everything we got is a bonus in his regard. He doesn't know how to balance his body. Zero BBIQ offensively. Has regressed in all facets this year.

These are two guys we heavily lean on.

We need to get away from all remnents of this post season ban. Then we should be working with and building on the team Ollie truly wanted and created.


I didn't watch one second of this game. Not surprised at the outcome in the least bit. When jalen doesn't get a triple double, we can't count on anyone to even be above average on an every game basis. (VJ and Facey have been playing great lately though)
 
HuskyHawk said:
If we are being honest, Adams has been awful tonight as well.
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This is his first (maybe 2nd) bad game all year. He's a sophomore. He will be a superstar.

RP and AB are seasoned seniors, and these types of games have become a trend for them, not a 'bad night'.

Yeah, Adams didn't play well, but it's no comparison.
 
gtcam said:
Not even close Tens not even close
JD was a junkyard dog and gave 110% all game every game
I am quite sure if he didn't get hurt there was a very good chance for ring #5
Sure he was out of control at times but he gave his all
You do realize that he did play some ball in the NBA?
Do you think RP will even sniff the D League???
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What Purvis and Dyson are both lacking isn't effort, but intelligence. Among the lowest BBIQ players ever to wear the uniform.

That said, I agree that if Dyson were healthy we win the road game in the F4 against MSU and give UNC a run for their money.
 
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Tenspro2002 said:
What Purvis and Dyson are both lacking isn't effort, but intelligence. Among the lowest BBIQ players ever to wear the uniform.

That said, I agree that if Dyson were healthy we win the road game in the F4 against MSU and give UNC a run for their money.
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Dyson was neither a low basketball IQ player nor a high IQ player. He simply wasn't cut out to be a leader after Price and Adrien graduated, but when he was a role player the year before, he made very few mistakes on either end.

Not everyone is suited to be "the guy," and that certainly appeared to be the case for Dyson as a senior. But the comparison to Purvis pretty much ends there.
 
zls44 said:
Lost by 15 to North Carolina, despite whatever fantasy world some people believe in.
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But at least we would have beaten Sparty. Then again, that might have been dangerous. They are an ugly lot.
 
UChusky916 said:
This is his first (maybe 2nd) bad game all year. He's a sophomore. He will be a superstar.

RP and AB are seasoned seniors, and these types of games have become a trend for them, not a 'bad night'.

Yeah, Adams didn't play well, but it's no comparison.
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Never knew age is a parameter in judging game play. If we make excuses for one player make them for all. If we don't believe in making excuses stay consistent.

This was a bad game for Jalen. Vance struggled on defense and rebounding. Vital left players wide open for easy shots.

Durham showed some good moves on offense, but he was slow to react on defense.

Kentan covered his player well but lacked the length which allowed his players to shoot over him consistently.

If people wanted Kentan to get more touches than the primary focus for that should be on Jalen.

No need to discuss game play of Brimah and Purvis since that's been covered and will be covered like a broken record.

It was a bad game for the team and it's probable the players have played their best games this season. I was really worried about the effect of the Georgetown loss. If fan reaction doesn't give people a clue how difficult it is to push yourself to stay optimistic with successive failures I'm not sure how to get fans to realize that players are human as well. It's a vicious cycle.
 
Really, we should all be totally able to believe how the seniors played, since its the same stuff they've done when they struggled for four years.
 
Tenspro2002 said:
That's a frustration too. Why does it take 3.5 years for him to become serviceable?

For this reason I have a hard time putting him in the "success" category as far as player development.
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Facey was key player in 2014 championship team...kid went thru some tough stuff off the court aftwr that and took some time to get back to playing his game. Now, when it does matter and need him to be playing strong more than ever, he is. Cant take that away from him or fault him for things that were out of his control. IMO Facey has progressed and deserves a hell of a lot of credit. Only sr captain showing ❤ and fight.
 
TrueBlue02 said:
Facey was key player in 2014 championship team...kid went thru some tough stuff off the court aftwr that and took some time to get back to playing his game. Now, when it does matter and need him to be playing strong more than ever, he is. Cant take that away from him or fault him for things that were out of his control. IMO Facey has progressed and deserves a hell of a lot of credit. Only sr captain showing ❤ and fight.
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He indeed deserves tremendous credit for the way he's playing now. My point is simply that as a program, we can't afford to have bigs that give us little to nothing for 3.5 years.

And your 2014 assessment is a bit off. You realize that Facey played <1 minute and scored 0 points the entire NCAA Tournament. Tolksdorf scored more points (1) than Facey did.
 
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Facey's has been terrific.

He's always been productive relative to minutes played, especially in terms of rebounding.

His minutes dropped from 21 a game to 12 last year. I'd wonder if that was due to Facey's shortcomings, the shortcomings of the coaching staff or a combination of the two.
 
Fishy said:
Facey's has been terrific.

He's always been productive relative to minutes played, especially in terms of rebounding.

His minutes dropped from 21 a game to 12 last year. I'd wonder if that was due to Facey's shortcomings, the shortcomings of the coaching staff or a combination of the two.
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We were just too loaded up front last year. What coach in his right mind would keep a Rolls Royce like Phil Nolan in the garage with the engine off?
 
zls44 said:
Really, we should all be totally able to believe how the seniors played, since its the same stuff they've done when they struggled for four years.
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Exactly. The posts should really come when they actually play well. Mediocre, often poor, play is the norm for those guys and shouldn't generate any shock at all.
 
superjohn said:
First time I can ever remember being able to watch the game and choosing not to. It's better for my own health and I'll wind up saying something really awful about Purvis and Brimah. All I'll say is I can't wait until they graduate. Time to finish season 2 of The Wire.
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Best of 5 great seasons
 
Fishy said:
Facey's has been terrific.

He's always been productive relative to minutes played, especially in terms of rebounding.

His minutes dropped from 21 a game to 12 last year. I'd wonder if that was due to Facey's shortcomings, the shortcomings of the coaching staff or a combination of the two.
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The upside of Miller has to be factored
 
I wish Kentan had another year in the worst way. He's been truly tremendous, love his effort and his ability to score the ball when given it in the right place to do so. They've done that for the most part, but you still see the weaknesses being passing and in all reality when he needs to dribble it more than one power dribble. If he had another year to work on these he may have been able to at least knock on the door to the next level, cup of coffee. He's a wing/PF who unfortunately doesn't have the handle these guys at the next level have as well as good passing ability. Maybe he keeps working hard at these and we see him come back to the USA at 27-28 with a shot?

Love the way the kid worked to get where he is right now. I mean to say "no shot he takes is a bad thing" right now is a great leap. Trust him to shoot it anywhere.
 
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