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It sucks losing, but IMO this team has not looked that bad the last 3 games. Iowa State played well against UConn, and that came could have gone either way. UConn dominated Buffalo, and lost a heartbreaker to WMU.

The offense is night and day better than it was against Vanderbilt. Vandy was a better D than WMU, but McEntee couldn't throw in that game and the receivers couldn't catch. He threw for 300 yards with 4 TD's and no INT's. I may be missing a game, but I think that is the third 300 yard game since Orlovsky left.

And he needed to score every time. Did anyone doubt that he was going to punch it in when Griffin put it on the ground? When was the last time you had that much confidence in a late game rally? McEntee is not a great QB, but we are flirting with mediocrity, which is light years ahead of where we have been the last 6 years.

And McEntee is doing this without much of a running game. McCoombs is quick enough, but he has a lot to learn about playing running back. Way too much dancing behind the line, and that big run he had should have been a TD instead of him tripping over his own feet. He ended up with good numbers, but half of it came off one carry. There were too many 2nd and 3rd and longs that could have been shorter with less dancing and more running by McCoombs.

The defense just folded up today after 3 good efforts in a row. The drop off from Wreh-Wilson is just unacceptable. It's not like BWW is Darius Butler. He is just a good college CB, and there is nothing behind him. The pass rush was non-existent. Did Jennings play in the second half after getting hurt on special teams? I didn't think to look for him until after that point, but the pass rush evaporated completely at the end.

UConn is what it is. It is no where close to a Top 25 team, and I think a few teams on the schedule have turned out to be better than expected. 4 Big East wins and a bowl bid is still a possibility given how the team is developing and the rest of the league is shaping up.
 
It sucks losing, but IMO this team has not looked that bad the last 3 games. Iowa State played well against UConn, and that came could have gone either way. UConn dominated Buffalo, and lost a heartbreaker to WMU.

The offense is night and day better than it was against Vanderbilt. Vandy was a better D than WMU, but McEntee couldn't throw in that game and the receivers couldn't catch. He threw for 300 yards with 4 TD's and no INT's. I may be missing a game, but I think that is the third 300 yard game since Orlovsky left.

And he needed to score every time. Did anyone doubt that he was going to punch it in when Griffin put it on the ground? When was the last time you had that much confidence in a late game rally? McEntee is not a great QB, but we are flirting with mediocrity, which is light years ahead of where we have been the last 6 years.
 
muntz:
love your post, and agree to a certain point, however, you do realize this team played in a BCS bowl in January?
 
muntz:
love your post, and agree to a certain point, however, you do realize this team played in a BCS bowl in January?

that was a very happy accident. UConn was the least deserving BCS team in history. The Big East was terrible and Bill Stewart completely melted down at the Rent to lose to UConn. Even Pitt in 2004 had earned the bid more than UConn did.
 
McCombs didn't trip over his own feet. There was strong wind gust that blew in and tackled him. McEntee keeps looking better with reps. Victimized by a couple of bad drops again today. The whole time Griffin was running I kept thinking he was going to fumble due to how he was holding the ball. Up to that point, that was a hell of a drive by Mac.
 
Agree on Griffin, could see that coming. McEntee doesn't even look like the same player out there...impressed by the rapid progress.

Lets hope the offense keeps improving, and that this was just a bad day for the D. Rutgers, Louisville and Syracuse are all terrible... I think we'll win some games in conference...will it be the four we need to go bowling? Doubt it...but it's not impossible.
 
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that was a very happy accident. UConn was the least deserving BCS team in history. The Big East was terrible and Bill Stewart completely melted down at the Rent to lose to UConn. Even Pitt in 2004 had earned the bid more than UConn did.

You're funny. I'm not sure if it's intentional or not, but thank you. Needed the laugh this morning.
 
It sucks losing, but IMO this team has not looked that bad the last 3 games. Iowa State played well against UConn, and that came could have gone either way. UConn dominated Buffalo, and lost a heartbreaker to WMU.

The offense is night and day better than it was against Vanderbilt. Vandy was a better D than WMU, but McEntee couldn't throw in that game and the receivers couldn't catch. He threw for 300 yards with 4 TD's and no INT's. I may be missing a game, but I think that is the third 300 yard game since Orlovsky left.

And he needed to score every time. Did anyone doubt that he was going to punch it in when Griffin put it on the ground? When was the last time you had that much confidence in a late game rally? McEntee is not a great QB, but we are flirting with mediocrity, which is light years ahead of where we have been the last 6 years.

And McEntee is doing this without much of a running game. McCoombs is quick enough, but he has a lot to learn about playing running back. Way too much dancing behind the line, and that big run he had should have been a TD instead of him tripping over his own feet. He ended up with good numbers, but half of it came off one carry. There were too many 2nd and 3rd and longs that could have been shorter with less dancing and more running by McCoombs.

The defense just folded up today after 3 good efforts in a row. The drop off from Wreh-Wilson is just unacceptable. It's not like BWW is Darius Butler. He is just a good college CB, and there is nothing behind him. The pass rush was non-existent. Did Jennings play in the second half after getting hurt on special teams? I didn't think to look for him until after that point, but the pass rush evaporated completely at the end.

UConn is what it is. It is no where close to a Top 25 team, and I think a few teams on the schedule have turned out to be better than expected. 4 Big East wins and a bowl bid is still a possibility given how the team is developing and the rest of the league is shaping up.

4 big east wins...your on crack
 
Of course you aren't upset. Anyone who could have 500 posts on why the hybrid Big East is a great idea generally can't be too invested in the football program.
 
We should beat Louisville, Rutgers, and the Cuse. Their seasons to date are making us look solid. If we can steal one of USF or Cinci, that's 4 BE wins. I'm chalking up Pitt and WVU as losses. Call me crazy (I'm sure plenty on this board today will) but I like our chances against USF in 2 weeks. Typical USF hot start and fold once BE play starts and the weather gets a bit cool.
 
It sucks losing, but IMO this team has not looked that bad the last 3 games. Iowa State played well against UConn, and that came could have gone either way. UConn dominated Buffalo, and lost a heartbreaker to WMU.

The offense is night and day better than it was against Vanderbilt. Vandy was a better D than WMU, but McEntee couldn't throw in that game and the receivers couldn't catch. He threw for 300 yards with 4 TD's and no INT's. I may be missing a game, but I think that is the third 300 yard game since Orlovsky left.

And he needed to score every time. Did anyone doubt that he was going to punch it in when Griffin put it on the ground? When was the last time you had that much confidence in a late game rally? McEntee is not a great QB, but we are flirting with mediocrity, which is light years ahead of where we have been the last 6 years.

And McEntee is doing this without much of a running game. McCoombs is quick enough, but he has a lot to learn about playing running back. Way too much dancing behind the line, and that big run he had should have been a TD instead of him tripping over his own feet. He ended up with good numbers, but half of it came off one carry. There were too many 2nd and 3rd and longs that could have been shorter with less dancing and more running by McCoombs.

The defense just folded up today after 3 good efforts in a row. The drop off from Wreh-Wilson is just unacceptable. It's not like BWW is Darius Butler. He is just a good college CB, and there is nothing behind him. The pass rush was non-existent. Did Jennings play in the second half after getting hurt on special teams? I didn't think to look for him until after that point, but the pass rush evaporated completely at the end.

UConn is what it is. It is no where close to a Top 25 team, and I think a few teams on the schedule have turned out to be better than expected. 4 Big East wins and a bowl bid is still a possibility given how the team is developing and the rest of the league is shaping up.

This is where I am. And the WMU fan said they would throw I all over the place and half of you ignored him. Turns out they were better than most of us thought. I'm very happy with the way that Mac played. I now have some hope.
 
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It sucks losing, but IMO this team has not looked that bad the last 3 games. Iowa State played well against UConn, and that came could have gone either way. UConn dominated Buffalo, and lost a heartbreaker to WMU.

The offense is night and day better than it was against Vanderbilt. Vandy was a better D than WMU, but McEntee couldn't throw in that game and the receivers couldn't catch. He threw for 300 yards with 4 TD's and no INT's. I may be missing a game, but I think that is the third 300 yard game since Orlovsky left.

And he needed to score every time. Did anyone doubt that he was going to punch it in when Griffin put it on the ground? When was the last time you had that much confidence in a late game rally? McEntee is not a great QB, but we are flirting with mediocrity, which is light years ahead of where we have been the last 6 years.

And McEntee is doing this without much of a running game. McCoombs is quick enough, but he has a lot to learn about playing running back. Way too much dancing behind the line, and that big run he had should have been a TD instead of him tripping over his own feet. He ended up with good numbers, but half of it came off one carry. There were too many 2nd and 3rd and longs that could have been shorter with less dancing and more running by McCoombs.

The defense just folded up today after 3 good efforts in a row. The drop off from Wreh-Wilson is just unacceptable. It's not like BWW is Darius Butler. He is just a good college CB, and there is nothing behind him. The pass rush was non-existent. Did Jennings play in the second half after getting hurt on special teams? I didn't think to look for him until after that point, but the pass rush evaporated completely at the end.

UConn is what it is. It is no where close to a Top 25 team, and I think a few teams on the schedule have turned out to be better than expected. 4 Big East wins and a bowl bid is still a possibility given how the team is developing and the rest of the league is shaping up.


You saw us as not winning another game at 3-4 last year but now see us as going to a bowl game? LMAO. You have become an utter joke. There is nothing you would not say, at any time, if you think it's helping you make arguments about coaching.
 
that was a very happy accident. UConn was the least deserving BCS team in history. The Big East was terrible and Bill Stewart completely melted down at the Rent to lose to UConn. Even Pitt in 2004 had earned the bid more than UConn did.


That's just not even close to being true. The Big EAst was much better last year than when Pitt won it, and Pitt needed overtime that year to win it's I=AA game.
 
That's just not even close to being true. The Big EAst was much better last year than when Pitt won it, and Pitt needed overtime that year to win it's I=AA game.

2004 in AP poll had Pitt #25 and WV and Uconn getting votes. 2010 AP had no top 25 and WV and Uconn getting votes. Seems like some voters thought 2004 had more/better team(s) - or seems to suggest that "not even close to being true" - might not be close to being true. Oh, also, not say'n should lose to 1AA team, but didn't # 16 VT actually lose to a 1AA team last year?
 
We just lost, AT HOME, to a team from the MAC.

i'm not one to get overexcited on positives or negatives and like to think about things rationally, but if you're not upset about that loss and the way this team is playing than i don't know that you'll ever be.

just answer this one question... what is the direction of this team under coach P? Are we improving any where? what is the clear vision?
there is none and we're not getting better... thats why i'm in borderline panic mode that this program is in quick sand with Pasqualoni.
 
That's just not even close to being true. The Big EAst was much better last year than when Pitt won it, and Pitt needed overtime that year to win it's I=AA game.

Part about UConn not deserving the bid: sufficiently ignored! Well done!
 
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We just lost, AT HOME, to a team from the MAC.

i'm not one to get overexcited on positives or negatives and like to think about things rationally, but if you're not upset about that loss and the way this team is playing than i don't know that you'll ever be.

just answer this one question... what is the direction of this team under coach P? Are we improving any where? what is the clear vision?
there is none and we're not getting better... thats why i'm in borderline panic mode that this program is in quick sand with Pasqualoni.

Are you more upset by how playing than last year after the Louisville game? Looking at talent, W Mich looked to me to have the better QB and receivers. If you do not see the offense as better, not sure what you are watching. This team was driving for a tieing score at end of game, not great, but at least in the game.
 
You saw us as not winning another game at 3-4 last year but now see us as going to a bowl game? LMAO. You have become an utter joke. There is nothing you would not say, at any time, if you think it's helping you make arguments about coaching.

I have no idea where you are going here. I am absolutely, 100% indifferent on Pasqualoni. I am not slitting my wrists over him or bemoaning about St. Randy leaving us like many here, and I don't think he is a savior. In fact, he is pretty close to about the same as Edsall in my opinion, maybe a slight improvement because of recruiting.

Keep up the flames though if it makes you feel better.
 
Nelson, your entire schtick on here is attempting to get flamed, so let's hold the whining when it happens.

I am sick and tired of hearing about how teams are better than we thought they were. They aren't. Western Michigan may have been, but I hope that is only to the fans in the stands and not the coaches - because watching some of their first few games and reading the stats, it was clear they were the best team offensively that we have faced this year. With that being said, their defense is nothing to write home about.

I also don't get how McEntee gets so much credit for improving this game over Vanderbilt. Vandy has a better D than WMU, put more pressure on him, and left less recievers wide open. Vandy also was very rude and caught some of Johnny's passes to them, as opposed to WMU who kindly batted them down, or one time, was kind enough to bat to one of our recievers. Really gracious visiting defense.

Really no idea how people think Rutgers and Syracuse are worse than us, but maybe you are just preparing yourself to say "Rutgers is much better than I thought they were."
 
McEntee is fine if there is no pressure. When defenses get to him things fall apart quickly.
 
It all boils down to this......if you are not that upset about what happened yesterday, I really have to call into question just how much you are emotionally invested in the football program.

You have too much Drummond on your mind right now.
 
It all boils down to this......if you are not that upset about what happened yesterday, I really have to call into question just how much you are emotionally invested in the football program.

You have too much Drummond on your mind right now.

This is a silly comment.

I was really pissed off for about an hour. Then I got home, went out to dinner with friends, and had a couple of Laphroigs and cooled off. I'm not going to let it ruin my life.
 
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This is a silly comment.

I was really pissed off for about an hour. Then I got home, went out to dinner with friends, and had a couple of Laphroigs and cooled off. I'm not going to let it ruin my life.

No, you're interpretation of the comment is silly.

We're talking in relative terms here chief. Nobody is letting this ruin their life. But, this is a message board dedicated to UConn football. And, in relative terms, if you aren't that upset what happened but are compelled enough to come here and post, then I don't know what to say.
 
No, you're interpretation of the comment is silly.

We're talking in relative terms here chief. Nobody is letting this ruin their life. But, this is a message board dedicated to UConn football. And, in relative terms, if you aren't that upset what happened but are compelled enough to come here and post, then I don't know what to say.

So how upset should I be? And for how long?

Don't mistake my level of anger (or lack thereof) for lack of interest. The two aren't the same in my book.

Taking a step back, I'm pretty upset that we don't have a real D1 QB or a real D1 RB. And I'm pretty upset that our line doesn't seem to be run blocking anywhere near to our recent standards (I know McCombs gets dropped to easily but the holes don't seem to be there either). BUT because I know these things going into a game, I have a different level of expectations on a week to week basis. Right now, I feel like I did a few years ago, when I was "hopeful" that we could win enough games to get by and get to a bowl. This team just isn't that good right now. I think we have some talent, and if we play a full 60 minutes on both sides of the ball we can be decent. But it was pretty obvious after Vandy (where I did travel to by myself--something that people that aren't emotionally invested tend to do--go to road games alone) that this team wasn't going to be an 8-9-10 win team. So I'm looking at this team on a game by game basis and watching it from a development standpoint, because to me we are clearly in a rebuilding situation.
 
This is gonna be a long,disappointing season. UConn is what the recruiting experts have said they where - a composite of 4-5 years worth of recruiting classes that were judged to be among the BE's weakest (and the BE was the weakest of the BCS conferences). Randy was never a good recruiter and was forced to stockpile "under-the- radars" and make due. It's finally caught up with the Huskies"
 
It all boils down to this......if you are not that upset about what happened yesterday, I really have to call into question just how much you are emotionally invested in the football program.

You have too much Drummond on your mind right now.

i'm not that upset b/c i knew going in that W Michigan was probably the best team we'd faced so far this year and our offense really looked improved. McEntee did a good job of moving in the pocket and did credible job of finding the open receiver. i'm very disappointed b/c going into the game i thought if we managed 24 points that we'd have gotten a win, but i also didn't think there was a chnce in hell we'd get 24 points without a return or defensive TD or two and we did. i don't see how anyone doesn't think 4 BE wins is possible. if i had to predict i'd say we go 3-4, but none of our BE opponents is so great that we can't beat them. Pitt, USF and WVU will be tough but i wouldn't be surprised if we upset one of them.

we were in a good position to win in every single one of our losses, and the teams we lost to were better than some of you are giving them credit for. it's not like we've looked flat outmatched. can anyone really say that Edsall had a chance to win that Temple game? so tell me why a team that lost each of their games by a TD or less can't win 4 games in a mediocre Big East?

your assertion that anyone that's not that upset isn't emotionally invested enough is a weak attempt to make your opinions on the game more valid than those that are not crying. maybe some of us just don't throw in the towel after every set back and realize that the team played a lot better on offense this week than in any game yet this year. we moved the ball yesterday better than any game i can remember since the end of '09, and we did it without being able to fallback on a top level runing game. the truth is their WRs made some amazing plays of the ball yesterday, and that was the difference. as much as some of you want to bash Wilburn, he was in good position for a lot of the catches against him the WR just made a better play on the ball.
 
Are you more upset by how playing than last year after the Louisville game? Looking at talent, W Mich looked to me to have the better QB and receivers. If you do not see the offense as better, not sure what you are watching. This team was driving for a tieing score at end of game, not great, but at least in the game.

if you go back and reread posts (which obviously you won't do, neither would i) you'll see that i was consistently behind McEntee when everyone else was saying he was a lost cause and he could never be our qb, etc etc. Now everyone is saying he's 'getting better' and 'we have our QB' and now i think i will jump on the other side of the fence. we need to settle down. he made some really nice throws in 1 game. thats it. he hasn't proven to be the answer or our qb of the future or anything like that. he's the best of the 3 options we have at this point and he had a nice game AGAINST A MAC TEAM AT HOME. thats a bit different than if he did this @ Pitt or @ WVU or something along those lines.

i'm trying to look at things from the big picture... where do i see something to say 'well... things are overall improving here compared to the past regime'. and i can't find anywhere. with Edsall, like him or hate him, you can CLEARLY see his direction of disciplined football, limit mistakes, etc. whether you like that strategy of play or not isn't the point... the point is we know the plan and we can see it being executed. what is Coach P's plan? rotating a wildcat qb randomly at times throughout the game? we seem less disciplined and less focused. i'm not buying the whole 'we don't have the talent thing' either. talent wise we've been comparable with every team we've played thus far, thats not the excuse for us losing these games.

and again, his sideline demeanor makes me want to puke. i'm not a 'rah rah' guy by any means and i think sports cliches like 'fire in your stomach' and 'having more heart' and all that is pretty much nonsense. but players do take cues from their leader and when he looks defeated on the sidelines it is bound to seep into the players.
 
i'm not that upset b/c i knew going in that W Michigan was probably the best team we'd faced so far this year and our offense really looked improved. McEntee did a good job of moving in the pocket and did credible job of finding the open receiver. i'm very disappointed b/c going into the game i thought if we managed 24 points that we'd have gotten a win, but i also didn't think there was a chnce in hell we'd get 24 points without a return or defensive TD or two and we did. i don't see how anyone doesn't think 4 BE wins is possible. if i had to predict i'd say we go 3-4, but none of our BE opponents is so great that we can't beat them. Pitt, USF and WVU will be tough but i wouldn't be surprised if we upset one of them.

we were in a good position to win in every single one of our losses, and the teams we lost to were better than some of you are giving them credit for. it's not like we've looked flat outmatched. can anyone really say that Edsall had a chance to win that Temple game? so tell me why a team that lost each of their games by a TD or less can't win 4 games in a mediocre Big East?

your assertion that anyone that's not that upset isn't emotionally invested enough is a weak attempt to make your opinions on the game more valid than those that are not crying. maybe some of us just don't throw in the towel after every set back and realize that the team played a lot better on offense this week than in any game yet this year. we moved the ball yesterday better than any game i can remember since the end of '09, and we did it without being able to fallback on a top level runing game. the truth is their WRs made some amazing plays of the ball yesterday, and that was the difference. as much as some of you want to bash Wilburn, he was in good position for a lot of the catches against him the WR just made a better play on the ball.

Yeah. You have me all figured out.

I was addressing Waylon directly in my original statement because he implied that he was preoccupied with hoops and football, not so much.

Thank you Dr. Freud.
 
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