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housekeys said:
I will go all in on an answer to your post.

Is it possible that UConn has already been chosen to either the ACC or B1G but the league has not made the announcement because....wait...it is so obvious....
we are on probation and it would look extremely "hypocritical" for conference presidents to get on a podium and sing the praises of a school on probation? The silence and the neglect does not make sense unless the people at UConn know more than what they are saying in public. I think after the school athletic season ends something positive will happen.

I hope.
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Because they don't have any current schools with serious violations on the front burner?
 
BoatShow said:
The NCAA/BE brass has never really liked JC. A super successful coach who isn't the Izzo/Coach K choir boy type. They went super hard to get the Nate Miles thing and when they won 2011 title in spite of everything it finally set them over the edge. Beating the feel good story Butler. Sure, Duke beat them the year before, but they're Duke. Not that I really subscribe to this, but a decent number of people feel this way. Also, it's 1:30 and I can't sleep. Please ignore me.
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Your making more sense. Please stay up later.
 
captainron2 said:
If you really want to think conspiracy consider this; while ESPN is located in Connecticut, most of their decision makers graduated from Syracuse.
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And the CEO is from UNC.
 
captainron2 said:
If you really want to think conspiracy consider this; while ESPN is located in Connecticut, most of their decision makers graduated from Syracuse.
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We know that ESPN told the ACC to take UConn and Cuse based of Defilipos comments to the media. BC blocked us and they took Pitt instead. ESPN wanted us in ACC then and I'm sure they still do.
 
Butch said:
Syracuse alumni would want reasons for Syracuse to come to Connecticut so they can see Syracuse play more often.
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I think you underestimate the competitive aspect of this. Many of the teams in the ACC and former BE see us as a threat. We came too far too fast and started stealing their thunder. Cuse competes directly with us for recruits and needs an advantage to compete with us. Just like BC who saw the writing on the wall.
 
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weyuo said:
As far as ESPN..... I just can't think that they would go out of their way....to in any way harm the most important sports story in the state that they are based in. How do they benefit?

As far as the ACC or the B1G which in all reality are the only two conferences UConn should consider joining I can see a lot of animosity. In basketball we have pretty much beaten up both conferences in the last 20 years especially on the women's side of the ledger. They see UConn football as that sleeping giant that the basketball teams were in the late 80's and early 90's. That and a little jealousy knowing that if UConn football ever takes off like the basketball did the money and the recruiting would be more than most of them could keep up with. There is still a perception out there that everyone in CT is filthy rich and they have seen first hand how we can back a winner.

Even though by and large I don't believe in TV networks going out of their way to screw UConn I did notice one thing that was disturbing during the Georgetown game Wednesday night. I have a pretty sweet audio/video setup for watching sporting events at home and UConn- Georgetown for what might have been the last time they ever meet at Gample don't demand 5.1 surround sound but the Texas- Oklahoma game does?
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Why do people constantly bring up women's basketball? It largely does not matter anywhere else in the country and where it does matter, its importance is dwarfed by mens basketball and football.

I mean no disrespect to the sport of women's basketball, but in terms of conference reallignment, it just does not move the needle.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I do not think any of this was an accident. I don't think UConn being passed over for ACC membership by two has-been schools in has-been cities in Fall 2011 was an accident. I don't think UConn losing out to a commuter school in a hick state was an accident. I don't think a plan by Fox and ESPN to rescue every other Big East program but UConn, USF, and Cincinnati was an accident.

It is not a coincidence that while all of this is happening, UConn gets this inexplicable post-season suspension for something that no one had ever been suspended for before and which no one that matters will ever be suspended for again in the future.

If is not a coincidence that the C7 head for the door, leaving UConn in a virtual wasteland of a league, and not a single ex-BE school talks about scheduling the 3 time national champion in the future? Not only do all these schools want out as soon as possible, but they won't even help us with future scheduling.

This isn't just bad luck. I don't know who or why this is happening, but it is happening. There are few coincidences in life. When you are playing cards, and you think someone is cheating, they are definitely cheating. 3 data points on a trend line is incontravertible evidence. Someone, somewhere issued a fatwa against UConn, and they have the muscle to back it up.

I have no idea how UConn can fight back or even make peace, other than completely abdicating.
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Conspiracy Kitty says:
WTF?? Seriously dude, get some help.
 
I doubt it's a full blown conspiracy... but expansion is driven by TV contracts... and look at what network just got every team they had in the Big East before it exploded for a fraction of the cost.
 
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ScottBonz said:
Not that I would ever to want to agree with Nelson. But just for arguments sake.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkot...a-the-cities-that-are-going-gray-the-fastest/

We're not much better in ct though.
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Yep, there are a lot of old people here. And yet Google moved in, Pittsburgh is ranked well ahead of any CT region in tech startups, we're getting an Ace Hotel (the #1 brand for hipsters) and, as the 2010 census (and the 2012 census survey) proved conclusively, Pittsburgh's median age is getting younger. Can't say that about CT.

I took Mr. Breen's journalism course way back when. Even he said, "don't believe everything you read".

But Syracuse still sucks.
 
Jimdish255 said:
Because they don't have any current schools with serious violations on the front burner?
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Ah faithless one, you are talking about Ohio St and Penn St? More the reason why not to introduce UConn at this point. The idea is to deflect from all the B1G problems not bring them into focus. Most of us here dismiss UConn's issues as minor and therefore irrelevant to the B1G decision, but that is because we are fans of the school. Go outside of the state and our fan base, and you will see how UConn's transgression is viewed. Not good.

Recall the events of the ACC's decision. By the time the vote on Louisville hit the news, articles were saying that UConn was not even being considered. The vote was not about UConn v Louisville. It was only about allowing Louisville in. There are only two possibilities here. Either we were flat out rejected or we told them we had other plans. When Aresco was talking about the new BE, at that time, he never mentioned UConn. There are two possibilities here also. Either we were flat out rejected by the BE or we told them we had other plans. See the pattern?

This is what my conspiracy gods are telling me, so don't go crazy on me. Really, all is well.
 
housekeys said:
Go outside of the state and our fan base, and you will see how UConn's transgression is viewed. Not good.
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99.99% of people outside of CT couldn't tell you what UCONN's "transgression" was.
 
Can't even give us a hint as to who these gods are?


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housekeys said:
Ah faithless one, you are talking about Ohio St and Penn St? More the reason why not to introduce UConn at this point. The idea is to deflect from all the B1G problems not bring them into focus. Most of us here dismiss UConn's issues as minor and therefore irrelevant to the B1G decision, but that is because we are fans of the school. Go outside of the state and our fan base, and you will see how UConn's transgression is viewed. Not good.
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I wonder how they feel about fake classes? Doesn't seem to prevent UNC from being the apple of the B1G's eyes.
 
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ScottBonz said:
Can't even give us a hint as to who these gods are?
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Gods, Shamgods.

Before this thing gets out of hand: it is only an anti-conspiracy theory in the spirit of this thread and reflects my hope for it being true. Like all of you, my head is spinning and this is all I can come up with.
 
noeynox said:
I don't know if I buy a full blown conspiracy theory, but I do know that none of our former rivals in the big east, the c7, SU, RU, PITT, BC, want to see us on equal footing and that is due to the amount of success we've had in Men's and women's basketball and football. National titles in basketball, and BCS appearance in football do that to folks. They are all, for the most part enjoying our plight.
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Living here, I don't get any vibe that Pitt has a bone with UConn at all. They've been mostly POd because WVU left and that was THE rivalry in football and hoops. They're happy that they still get to play Syracuse and give every indication they'd be happy if UConn joined them in the ACC.

Had WVU stayed in the BE, Pitt would have too. WVU (and regular appearances by ND) made the BE football schedule tolerable to most here. The Pitt-UConn hoops rivalry is generally viewed as one of the top two hoops rivalries they had.

That said, I wouldn't hold my breath for Dixon scheduling an OOC game vs. UConn as he almost never schedules anyone decent.
 
CAHUSKY said:
99.99% of people outside of CT couldn't tell you what UCONN's "transgression" was.
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This is true, I skimmed a few general NCAA hoops forums after the GTown game to see what people were saying. A massive amount of people were saying "Why is UConn banned from the tourney?" with a lot of ignorant people answering "standard recruiting violaions." If the rest of the college basketball viewing world only knew...
 
If ESPN was trying to destroy the league why did they offer them $14 million a team. That's an odd way to destroy them.
 
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I don't know who would be motivated to seclude UConn. I've thought schools like duke, unc, syracuse would like to see us put to pasture. In two cases, because we can challenge their prestige, in the other because they are a joke and have achieved very little despite their inflated view of themself. But that seems unlikely to go to this length presumably with espn in their corner. Plus i think tobacco road supported our inclusion to the ACC, no? Bizarre, chain reaction of unlucky circumstances have screwed us.

I'm a believer though. I think our basketball program can survive, albeit in a challenging environment. I still believe Ollie can convince, with the new facility, the kind of talent that can give us a team to support (frankly, most of us here will always support UConn, win or lose, but I'm speaking generally). If future teams are like this year's, I will be thrilled. I mean, we could go a season with under 5 losses with our current team in our future conference with relative ease. Tourney success is tougher to gauge, but if we win, we will always be relevant.
 
whaler11 said:
If ESPN was trying to destroy the league why did they offer them $14 million a team. That's an odd way to destroy them.
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The number goes up every time someone talks about the rejected offer. It was $11MM per school, not $14, and when the Big East rejected the offer, ESPN tried to nick away at the league to devalue it. Things clearly went in a direction that ESPN did not expect.
 
weyuo said:
As far as ESPN..... I just can't think that they would go out of their way....to in any way harm the most important sports story in the state that they are based in. How do they benefit?

As far as the ACC or the B1G which in all reality are the only two conferences UConn should consider joining I can see a lot of animosity. In basketball we have pretty much beaten up both conferences in the last 20 years especially on the women's side of the ledger. They see UConn football as that sleeping giant that the basketball teams were in the late 80's and early 90's. That and a little jealousy knowing that if UConn football ever takes off like the basketball did the money and the recruiting would be more than most of them could keep up with. There is still a perception out there that everyone in CT is filthy rich and they have seen first hand how we can back a winner.

Even though by and large I don't believe in TV networks going out of their way to screw UConn I did notice one thing that was disturbing during the Georgetown game Wednesday night. I have a pretty sweet audio/video setup for watching sporting events at home and UConn- Georgetown for what might have been the last time they ever meet at Gample don't demand 5.1 surround sound but the Texas- Oklahoma game does?
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Yes the Big Ten and ACC will continue to snub us because of women's basketball and the monster football program. Let's get real. Whenever these conference honchos mention well rounded athletic programs, i.e. women's sports, wrestling hockey, etc., they are just giving political lip service. It is all about the $$$$, and the gridion drives it. Nationally UConn football is an afterthought, if ever even thought of. Thus Louisville is going to ACC, UConn is not.

The Big 10 has now got Maryland and Rutgers for the eastern seaboard and securing the NY market, but did they really bolster football. Maryland has been the worst team in ACC the last 2 years (thanks to coach RE), but they have upside and some tradition and Rutgers gives the Big Apple. So Big 10's next move, if any, would likely be south to keep football stock up.

Not sure if this imagined "jealously" is keeping UConn out of these conferences, but most likely the power of green $$$$. We need to fill our stadium first, then expand it to be competitive with others in these conferences. Yes they have their Northwesterns and Dukes in football, but they will not expand to get more, they will expand to get better.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
The number goes up every time someone talks about the rejected offer. It was $11MM per school, not $14, and when the Big East rejected the offer, ESPN tried to nick away at the league to devalue it. Things clearly went in a direction that ESPN did not expect.
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The exact number doesn't matter. 11 fine. Is ESPN trying to destroy the ACC because their contract is lower than the Big 10, SEC, Pac 12 and Big 12?
 
housekeys said:
I will go all in on an answer to your post.

Is it possible that UConn has already been chosen to either the ACC or B1G but the league has not made the announcement because....wait...it is so obvious....
we are on probation and it would look extremely "hypocritical" for conference presidents to get on a podium and sing the praises of a school on probation? The silence and the neglect does not make sense unless the people at UConn know more than what they are saying in public. I think after the school athletic season ends something positive will happen.

I hope.
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Let me add to this.

Maybe we are also waiting so we can get that early exit fee money from all those schools AND not have to pay any ourselves!!

I HOPE!!
 
Durks07 said:
I still can't...
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The answer is that is was an act of spite by Emmert (NCAA pres), who formerly worked at UConn, and had a few run-ins (and apparently lost them) with JC.
 
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