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nelsonmuntz said:
I do not think any of this was an accident. I don't think UConn being passed over for ACC membership by two has-been schools in has-been cities in Fall 2011 was an accident. I don't think UConn losing out to a commuter school in a hick state was an accident. I don't think a plan by Fox and ESPN to rescue every other Big East program but UConn, USF, and Cincinnati was an accident.

It is not a coincidence that while all of this is happening, UConn gets this inexplicable post-season suspension for something that no one had ever been suspended for before and which no one that matters will ever be suspended for again in the future.

If is not a coincidence that the C7 head for the door, leaving UConn in a virtual wasteland of a league, and not a single ex-BE school talks about scheduling the 3 time national champion in the future? Not only do all these schools want out as soon as possible, but they won't even help us with future scheduling.

This isn't just bad luck. I don't know who or why this is happening, but it is happening. There are few coincidences in life. When you are playing cards, and you think someone is cheating, they are definitely cheating. 3 data points on a trend line is incontravertible evidence. Someone, somewhere issued a fatwa against UConn, and they have the muscle to back it up.

I have no idea how UConn can fight back or even make peace, other than completely abdicating.
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You don't think that Jim Calhoun's personality over the last 30 years had a lot to do with this?
 
IthacaMatt said:
You don't think that Jim Calhoun's personality over the last 30 years had a lot to do with this?
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I think the president of the NCAA had a bone to pick with UConn. I don't think Jim Calhoun really offended that many media members and when he did, the fans and most other media members sided with him. JC made some notable scenes in a few press conferences but none that involved people that would have gone on a witch hunt like this.
 
IthacaMatt said:
You don't think that Jim Calhoun's personality over the last 30 years had a lot to do with this?
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you're right, he should have been like Jim Boeheim who never lashes out at anybody during press conferences. Such a choir boy he is.
 
IthacaMatt said:
You don't think that Jim Calhoun's personality over the last 30 years had a lot to do with this?
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Did it help? No.

But you cannot seriously argue it was a major issue.
 
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Woodson said:
I don't know who would be motivated to seclude UConn. I've thought schools like duke, unc, syracuse would like to see us put to pasture. In two cases, because we can challenge their prestige, in the other because they are a joke and have achieved very little despite their inflated view of themself. But that seems unlikely to go to this length presumably with espn in their corner. Plus i think tobacco road supported our inclusion to the ACC, no? Bizarre, chain reaction of unlucky circumstances have screwed us.

I'm a believer though. I think our basketball program can survive, albeit in a challenging environment. I still believe Ollie can convince, with the new facility, the kind of talent that can give us a team to support (frankly, most of us here will always support UConn, win or lose, but I'm speaking generally). If future teams are like this year's, I will be thrilled. I mean, we could go a season with under 5 losses with our current team in our future conference with relative ease. Tourney success is tougher to gauge, but if we win, we will always be relevant.
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I love positivity but, "if future teams are like this year's" , do you realize that talent like Daniels, Boatright, Napier, and Calhoun was recruited to a prominent member of the country's best basketball league? They may not be top 10 Mc D's but for us to be a player we need more of that and the way our league is set up I see KO having a real challenge. There is no future for us where we are now.
 
BoatShow said:
The NCAA/BE brass has never really liked JC. A super successful coach who isn't the Izzo/Coach K choir boy type. They went super hard to get the Nate Miles thing and when they won 2011 title in spite of everything it finally set them over the edge. Beating the feel good story Butler. Sure, Duke beat them the year before, but they're Duke. Not that I really subscribe to this, but a decent number of people feel this way. Also, it's 1:30 and I can't sleep. Please ignore me.
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Do think there is something to all this. And, don't forget UConn football embarassing Notre Dame and South Carolina. That really sent them over the edge.
 
jibsey said:
I love positivity but, "if future teams are like this year's" , do you realize that talent like Daniels, Boatright, Napier, and Calhoun was recruited to a prominent member of the country's best basketball league? They may not be top 10 Mc D's but for us to be a player we need more of that and the way our league is set up I see KO having a real challenge. There is no future for us where we are now.
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Totally agress with your last sentence.
 
weyuo said:
As far as ESPN..... I just can't think that they would go out of their way....to in any way harm the most important sports story in the state that they are based in. How do they benefit?

As far as the ACC or the B1G which in all reality are the only two conferences UConn should consider joining I can see a lot of animosity. In basketball we have pretty much beaten up both conferences in the last 20 years especially on the women's side of the ledger. They see UConn football as that sleeping giant that the basketball teams were in the late 80's and early 90's. That and a little jealousy knowing that if UConn football ever takes off like the basketball did the money and the recruiting would be more than most of them could keep up with. There is still a perception out there that everyone in CT is filthy rich and they have seen first hand how we can back a winner.

Even though by and large I don't believe in TV networks going out of their way to screw UConn I did notice one thing that was disturbing during the Georgetown game Wednesday night. I have a pretty sweet audio/video setup for watching sporting events at home and UConn- Georgetown for what might have been the last time they ever meet at Gample don't demand 5.1 surround sound but the Texas- Oklahoma game does?
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ESPN hasn't done anything for UConn. They have been horrible corporate neighbors. They alone could have seen to it that UConn found a suitable home in the ACC.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I do not think any of this was an accident. I don't think UConn being passed over for ACC membership by two has-been schools in has-been cities in Fall 2011 was an accident. I don't think UConn losing out to a commuter school in a hick state was an accident. I don't think a plan by Fox and ESPN to rescue every other Big East program but UConn, USF, and Cincinnati was an accident.

It is not a coincidence that while all of this is happening, UConn gets this inexplicable post-season suspension for something that no one had ever been suspended for before and which no one that matters will ever be suspended for again in the future.

If is not a coincidence that the C7 head for the door, leaving UConn in a virtual wasteland of a league, and not a single ex-BE school talks about scheduling the 3 time national champion in the future? Not only do all these schools want out as soon as possible, but they won't even help us with future scheduling.

This isn't just bad luck. I don't know who or why this is happening, but it is happening. There are few coincidences in life. When you are playing cards, and you think someone is cheating, they are definitely cheating. 3 data points on a trend line is incontravertible evidence. Someone, somewhere issued a fatwa against UConn, and they have the muscle to back it up.

I have no idea how UConn can fight back or even make peace, other than completely abdicating.
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AND...UConn makes 30 million bucks as a martyr!!!! I think they are okay with that. And in a month, maybe a few months, they will have a new home where the sun is shining and...

they still have 30 million freakin' bucks!!!!!
 
Dove said:
AND...UConn makes 30 million bucks as a martyr!!!! I think they are okay with that. And in a month, maybe a few months, they will have a new home where the sun is shining and...

they still have 30 million freakin' bucks!!!!!
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Too late to edit my previous post...30 million should be "over 20 million!!!"
 
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Fishy said:
No.
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If it's not attributable to broken personal relationships (and a certain law suit), then I just can't figure out why you guys have been so obviously left behind. Logic would dictate a far different result.
 
IthacaMatt said:
If it's not attributable to broken personal relationships (and a certain law suit), then I just can't figure out why you guys have been so obviously left behind. Logic would dictate a far different result.
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I think it had more to do with FSU and Clemson throwing a temper tantrum and the rest of the ACC getting nervous. If we were in that same boat, we would have deferred as well.

The other stuff didn't help but the the above was the major factor.
 
IthacaMatt said:
If it's not attributable to broken personal relationships (and a certain law suit), then I just can't figure out why you guys have been so obviously left behind. Logic would dictate a far different result.
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Pittsburgh was a plaintiff in that lawsuit. So was WVU and Rutgers. It just happened to have been filed in CT. So you're saying that if the suit had been filed in PA Pitt would have been blackballed? Really?
 
IthacaMatt said:
If it's not attributable to broken personal relationships (and a certain law suit), then I just can't figure out why you guys have been so obviously left behind. Logic would dictate a far different result.
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Did it ever occur to you that the conference you are joining is filled with as many shortsighted morons as the one you left?
 
zls44 said:
Did it ever occur to you that the conference you are joining is filled with as many shortsighted morons as the one you left?
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I think this is the real truth.

In that oral history of the BE, Boeheim said that he knew the BE was dead after Gavitt and Tranghese were gone, because they were the only ones who could stop the presidents from making stupid decisions. That rings true.

Swofford seemed to be in control in 2003, but by 2011 it seems he lost the trust of some of the league, enough of it that he couldn't get Syracuse and UConn in, which he initially wanted, nor could he get UConn in over Louisville, which, considering how much he talked about academics and how little Aresco talked about UConn, he and others assumed was the logical choice.
 
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I have watched quite a bit of the week long wake that is the Big East Tournament. Despite all the reminiscing on ESPN, I have not heard a single mention of the 3 time national champion and 7 time Big East Tournament winner. The same team that has played several of the most memorable games in tournament history.

Must have just been an oversight.
 
Dove said:
AND...UConn makes 30 million bucks as a martyr!!!! I think they are okay with that. And in a month, maybe a few months, they will have a new home where the sun is shining and...

they still have 30 million freakin' bucks!!!!!
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Or so you would think..... That chunk of cash will not be handed out as a lump sum, but rather distributed over a "7 year period" , thus making it rather easy for Aresco&Co to hold it over our heads if we ever start looking for greener pastures.... we won't end up seeing a dime from the balance we haven't collected I bet.
-"Babcock said none of the schools will get a lump check from the departing schools but rather over a seven-year period."
http://the-boneyard.com/threads/katz-article-on-the-ole-big-east-going-forward.35782/
 
sammydabiz said:
Or so you would think..... That chunk of cash will not be handed out as a lump sum, but rather distributed over a "7 year period" , thus making it rather easy for Aresco&Co to hold it over our heads if we ever start looking for greener pastures.... we won't end up seeing a dime from the balance we haven't collected I bet.
-"Babcock said none of the schools will get a lump check from the departing schools but rather over a seven-year period."
http://the-boneyard.com/threads/katz-article-on-the-ole-big-east-going-forward.35782/
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Gotten to the point you can't make it up.
 
nelsonmuntz said:
I have watched quite a bit of the week long wake that is the Big East Tournament. Despite all the reminiscing on ESPN, I have not heard a single mention of the 3 time national champion and 7 time Big East Tournament winner. The same team that has played several of the most memorable games in tournament history.

Must have just been an oversight.
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No your right, all I kept hearing is how Gtown and Cuse were/are the "pillars" of the Big East, with no mention of the only program to keep the damn league alive since 90's.... It's almost as if we never existed
 
Out of sight, out of mind. Thats how the old saying goes. Im still kind of mad UConn couldnt play in this years BET. After looking at the bracket, im pretty sure we would have played Providence Wednesday instead of Cincy. Judging by the Friars terrible showing, im sure we would have won that which would have set up a rematch with Georgetown. If we get revenge on the Hoyas, its UConn-Syracuse in the semi-finals and all you hear and read about is the history between the two schools/last time playing one another/JC and JB/6OT etc. It all would have been interchangable, thats what im trying to get at.
 
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