I’d start Clingan over Jackson …

[ucp990411]

The boneyard never ceases to amaze

 

[uc1990]

It would be nothing like starting 2 QBs. In all reality minus the back to the basket game Sanogo is a 4. It may not be the way to start the game but if the game is like it was against Xavier and

Clingen and Sanogo play the same position. Starting them together would be like starting to quarterbacks.

That is the same as saying starting newton, Jackson, Hawkins is like starting 3 QBs. That is silly. I think AS and DC will struggle a bit to figure out how to play with each at the same time. I believe AS has the ability to adapt his game and be a beast as a 4 with DC on the floor over time. But we will never know if we don’t try it. And I’m not so sure why anyone who is a basketball fan wouldn’t want to see it. If it doesn’t work then fine but it blows my mind that people would rather sit either AS or DC for more newton, Allene, diarra time? I’m good with 2 guards at a time with this team.

 

[MTBingNinja]

If I was coach, I would start Clingan and have Jackson come off the bench. I like Jackson, but I think he is best when he pairs with Diarra and they full court press. So I would start DC, AS, TN, AK, JH and start game with a slow grinding offense and crash boards. Then I would bring in Jackson and Diarra, pretty early and switch to full court press as a change of pace.

I think all that energy that Jackson brings might be better as an explosion off the bench. I realize he deserves to start, but think they’re better with him off the bench. I would still play him starters minutes but try to make sure his time lines up with Diarra’s time.

 

[80shusky]

 

[StllH8L8ner]

i think with clingan's long legs you could just give him the ball at the top of the three point line and he should be able to take a couple steps (since he's so tall he can just step over people with no worry of running into them) and dunk it at the rim with no issue at all.

 

[PAHusky]

It would be nothing like starting 2 QBs. In all reality minus the back to the basket game Sanogo is a 4. It may not be the way to start the game but if the game is like it was against Xavier and 2nd half versus Marquette then it's certainly an idea. Well for some.

....other than Sanogo's entire offensive game he's a 4, you're saying? The only way in which Sanogo resembles a 4 is size. His offensive game , his lack of lateral mobility on defense, his inability to guard on the perimeter all say he's a 5.

 

[JustbrewitMan]

 

[selles]

If I was coach, I would start Clingan and have Jackson come off the bench. I like Jackson, but I think he is best when he pairs with Diarra and they full court press. So I would start DC, AS, TN, AK, JH and start game with a slow grinding offense and crash boards. Then I would bring in Jackson and Diarra, pretty early and switch to full court press as a change of pace.

I think all that energy that Jackson brings might be better as an explosion off the bench. I realize he deserves to start, but think they’re better with him off the bench. I would still play him starters minutes but try to make sure his time lines up with Diarra’s time.

Don't love starting both bigs, but I didn't hate it earlier in the year when Andre would come off the bench and bring a tremendous infusion of energy 5 minutes into the game. I'd still want Andre out there for 30 minutes overall, but I wouldn't have a problem with starting Alleyne in a Tyler Olander 2011 tourney sort of way.

Of course, the first half hasn't really been the problem.

 

[husky429]

Just play and make plays then go play defense and rebound, it’s what you do best. Style points don’t count.

He's averaging 5.1 assists and 2.1 TOs per game in the big east, and 4.9/1.7 for the season. Style points may not count, but he's a hell of a passer and doing it with style too. This is a silly take.

 

[husky429]

Benching Jackson is what we call "a bad idea" in the coaching world. It's a good thing our AD is paying Hurley 4 million a year and not the posters on this board.

 

[bendm]

This is unintentionally funny because AJ is the last guy that would lose his starting spot

 

[REB1094]

What happened to this place?

We lost 3 out of our 18 games

 

[ColchVEGAS]

Starting lineup does not matter. Minutes played at the end of the games matter. Olander on the 2011 team was the "starter" at the 5 for the far majority of the games and averaged less than 10 mpg.

 

[temery]

I have nothing to offer. So here's this:

 

[cohenzone]

Since Clingan is the biggest player why doesn't he just eat all of the other players?

Springs always cause indigestion.

 

[mauconnfan]

He's averaging 5.1 assists and 2.1 TOs per game in the big east, and 4.9/1.7 for the season. Style points may not count, but he's a hell of a passer and doing it with style too. This is a silly take.

He got bailed out 2x the other night trying to be cute and numerous other times all year. Yes he is very good but he'd have 6 and 1 if he just passed it. He's damn good but how many alley oops can you get deflected because he throws them from the waist? Again I like the kid, but he could calm it down and be even better. Not at all a bad take, just the truth. Heck he's so talented and athletic he's run down some of his own bad passes to assure of no turnover LOL. The kid is good, just play and please go to the hole like the other night without passing being first on your mind. Go with the intent to FINISH because he can.

 

[Umami Zen]

OP suggestion would be a train wreck.. Jackson is irreplaceable based on the way our roster is constructed

 

[mauconnfan]

....other than Sanogo's entire offensive game he's a 4, you're saying? The only way in which Sanogo resembles a 4 is size. His offensive game , his lack of lateral mobility on defense, his inability to guard on the perimeter all say he's a 5.

Is that where he will be at the next level if he sees it at all? He's a 4 yes because of size and his quickness isn't awful, his reactions are though. You are right he plays like a 5 I agree and that hurts seeing that duo more no doubt.

 

[husky429]

He got bailed out 2x the other night trying to be cute and numerous other times all year. Yes he is very good but he'd have 6 and 1 if he just passed it. He's damn good but how many alley oops can you get deflected because he throws them from the waist?

The results speak for themselves. He's averaging 5 assists and under 2 TOs. Whether you like it or not, he's an elite passer. I don't care if he looks cute or like the hunchback of Notre Dame if he manages to pass the ball at an elite level.

You're complaining about the passing of the most efficient passer we've had in years. It's silly.

 

[Hunt for 7]

Wow this is an amazing suggestion. Why not start DC an AS together. Jackson and Hawkins can start as the guards and we play a low post game. DC is a good enough passer to kick out when the double comes and we can have Hawkins and Karaban on the wings setting up for the kick out three. Look the line up rotations are not working right now so switch them up.

 

[CONN78SEJ]

If I was coach, I would start Clingan and have Jackson come off the bench. I like Jackson, but I think he is best when he pairs with Diarra and they full court press. So I would start DC, AS, TN, AK, JH and start game with a slow grinding offense and crash boards. Then I would bring in Jackson and Diarra, pretty early and switch to full court press as a change of pace.

I think all that energy that Jackson brings might be better as an explosion off the bench. I realize he deserves to start, but think they’re better with him off the bench. I would still play him starters minutes but try to make sure his time lines up with Diarra’s time.

Jackson is so important to the team and how they start the game. He needs to start, that being said, when Clingan is ready to come in, say around the first tv timeout. I’d bring him in and give Jackson a rest, not Sanogo.

 

[temery]

Springs always cause indigestion.

Yeah, but you bounce back quickly.

 

[HooperScooper]

If I was coach, I would start Clingan and have Jackson come off the bench. I like Jackson, but I think he is best when he pairs with Diarra and they full court press. So I would start DC, AS, TN, AK, JH and start game with a slow grinding offense and crash boards. Then I would bring in Jackson and Diarra, pretty early and switch to full court press as a change of pace.

I think all that energy that Jackson brings might be better as an explosion off the bench. I realize he deserves to start, but think they’re better with him off the bench. I would still play him starters minutes but try to make sure his time lines up with Diarra’s time.

It's O.K. to express your opinion, but my opinion is I'm glad you're not the coach.

 

[temery]

If I were coach, I'd play seven players at a time, and have two hide behind Clingan.

 

[ucp990411]

Let's put him in for all 40 minutes, and when he falls over gassed, the other team will trip over him like a big log!

Reminds me of something I don't get. When I coached this call would totally tick me off. A player dives for a loose ball but doesn't get it. An opposing player gets the ball but trips over the player on the floor. A travel is called. How can that be a travel when an opposing player trips him? A trip does not have to be intentional.

 

[tcf15]

If I were coach, I'd play seven players at a time, and have two hide behind Clingan.

Now we’re gettin’ somewhere

 

[Huskyforlife]

It’s also worth mentioning the OP doesn’t realize the bigs need Andres passing ability to get the ball in their best spots.

 

[Scottobot]

I know I’ve ruffled some feathers because everyone loves Jackson. I think he is great too, but I think when he plays 37 minutes he gets tired, and he loses some of that dynamic energy. It seems like we fade at the end of games. I would prefer to have a fresh Jackson at the end of game to make a big defensive stop. I think the start of the game where you probably have a bunch of scripted sets to get the ball to Sanogo or Hawkins is a time you can live without Jackson.

 

[Billy Jack]

That is the same as saying starting newton, Jackson, Hawkins is like starting 3 QBs. That is silly. I think AS and DC will struggle a bit to figure out how to play with each at the same time. I believe AS has the ability to adapt his game and be a beast as a 4 with DC on the floor over time. But we will never know if we don’t try it. And I’m not so sure why anyone who is a basketball fan wouldn’t want to see it. If it doesn’t work then fine but it blows my mind that people would rather sit either AS or DC for more newton, Allene, diarra time? I’m good with 2 guards at a time with this team.

I disagree that he has the ability to adapt and “be a beast as a 4 with DC on the floor.” I guess we’ll have to leave it at that.

I’ll accept the criticism that my analogy is silly. What I won’t accept that either of these guys is a 4. My point with the QB analogy is that they play the same position. That’s just what they are and what their skills and abilities are suited for.

This is one of the top 6 teams in the country as is. That’s why I don’t want to experiment at this point in the season. Fine tuning and tweaking may be in order, but not a major experiment just to see if it works out. And how long do you give it to see if it works out?

Right now, Sanogo is averaging 26 minutes and Clingan 14 minutes. How many more minutes do you want to get out of each of them when you play them together?

 

[superjohn]

I know I’ve ruffled some feathers because everyone loves Jackson. I think he is great too, but I think when he plays 37 minutes he gets tired, and he loses some of that dynamic energy. It seems like we fade at the end of games. I would prefer to have a fresh Jackson at the end of game to make a big defensive stop. I think the start of the game where you probably have a bunch of scripted sets to get the ball to Sanogo or Hawkins is a time you can live without Jackson.

I don't particularly agree with your premise but you've gotten an unfair shake here with everyone making fun of your post. We all know that things need to be shaken up because we've lost these three road games and have looked stale overall in Big East play. I think Jackson needs to be our full time point guard with Newton off the ball scoring. I think we need to stop force feeding Sanogo in the post so much and pop him out more, I also think he needs to stay down low much more on defense. Clingan needs a lot more minutes. We're all searching for answers right now on how to get us looking better. It's Hurley's job to figure it out.