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Calhoun's Court said:
Over the years I've gotten into quite a few disputes over the men's/women's teams. Foe the life of me I can't understand how people can get into a sport where ther are only 5 teams that are any good any year. Zero element of drama in the womens game.
Might as well go right to te elite 8 and not play the season.

I really think alot of the womens fans just like the idea that the team wins all the time. If they ever went 9-9 in conference the season ticket base would slow to a crawl. My opinion Geno and his team better go to a Final 4 every year because he gets the BEST players every year. There would be something wrong if he didn't win.

Just so you know where I'm coming from I can't stand Geno. And I don't cheer for the women's team.

Let the men's teams players HAVE to stay for four years and lets see how many banners JC would have hung up.

Also I can't stand the idea that UCONN has not named the court at Gampel for JC when lesser coaches(Cremins, Crees to name 2) have courts named for them. And thats all because of Geno. The old what are we going to do for Geno question? Who cares. Name something else for him. I'm not saying he isn't a HOF coach and deserving of his own honor. Geno coaches womens basketball. It doesn't compare on any level to men's basketball. In 48/50 states NO One cares about womens basketball. It's a niche sport.
IMO Geno could win 30 NC and it wouldn't compare to the 3 JC won.(Again I am totally one sided on this topic and I realize it).

OK Rant Over !!!
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You read my mind.
 
Calhoun's Court said:
I really think alot of the womens fans just like the idea that the team wins all the time. If they ever went 9-9 in conference the season ticket base would slow to a crawl.
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You might be on to something there.

Calhoun's Court said:
My opinion Geno and his team better go to a Final 4 every year because he gets the BEST players every year. There would be something wrong if he didn't win.
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Well he does get lots of good players, but he doesn’t always get the best. UCONN had the best class in 2012. However Tennessee had the best in 2011, Duke in 2011 and Baylor in 2009. In 2009, UCONN had the 49th ranked recruiting class. And they won’t be in the top 25 this year either most likely.

Calhoun's Court said:
Let the men's teams players HAVE to stay for four years and lets see how many banners JC would have hung up.
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Maybe not as many. Remember, all the other schools players would play for 4 years too. But true, that certainly does help a women’s coach as compared to a men’s coach.

Calhoun's Court said:
Also I can't stand the idea that UCONN has not named the court at Gampel for JC when lesser coaches(Cremins, Crees to name 2) have courts named for them.
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Maybe if he had run a cleaner program???

Calhoun's Court said:
Geno coaches womens basketball. It doesn't compare on any level to men's basketball. In 48/50 states NO One cares about womens basketball. It's a niche sport.
IMO Geno could win 30 NC and it wouldn't compare to the 3 JC won.(Again I am totally one sided on this topic and I realize it).
OK Rant Over !!!
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So why bother with a rant?
 
Perspective said:
You're in denial. Perhaps she did reach in, but if you want to draw the foul, reach in and grab her arm or bump her hard off the ball. The "she could have tackled her line" implies that she did everything but that. Wrong. I didn't see her touch Diggins at all when she was "reaching in."

It's not hard. She's dribbling - crash into her while going for the ball and knock her off the ball. They WILL call a foul.

Blaming the officials for not making a call on a phantom "reach in" is bizarre women-crap.
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Not sure if you're just posturing or require a serious answer, but...

From the Jacobs column:

"I did my best to foul her," Bria Hartley said.

"I think we fouled [Diggins] three times," Auriemma said. "I guess it took a long time for them not to call fouls on us. But they picked the wrong time. We just didn't want to make it look intentional. As it turned out we would have had to tackle her."]
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Diggins said: "“I thought it was coming (the foul call)...I’m just glad they didn’t call it, and my teammates sprinted down the court.”

So blackbird is not delusional, nor were the fouls "phantom." Diggins felt them. She played through, to her credit. She used her left arm to hold Bria off as Bria swiped at the ball. Bria lost her balance, and Diggins switched her dribble from the right hand to the left to avoid getting trapped along the sideline. Bria even grabbed Diggins' leg as she was falling (foul #3). Bria just didn't do any of it "full out" because she didn't want to draw an intentional foul.

Geno should have inbounded the ball to Bria or Kelly to hold for the last shot, instead of trying a homerun play for a quick score. When the quick score didn't happen, everything went to hell. Should never have come to needing the refs to make a call, and Kelly acknowledged that.
 
mauconnfan said:
Guess that tells you all you need to know about Pitt fans :eek:............interesting only because it was 2 teams that never seem to win until the last seconds and 2 because they are only 2 of the maybe 3 or 4 teams who can win the womens NC..........but both look like Baylor is double digits better from what I've seen...........
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Although UCONN only lost by 6 vs Baylor.
 
blackbird said:
No, a foul is a foul. You didn't see it so don't make judgments. I don't think Geno told anyone to foul, I think Hartley tried but didn't fully commit because she wasn't sure whether there was actually a foul to give. It's not blaming the refs. The women's team turned the ball over, ND was likely going .
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I have to agree with Perspective here. Bria acting like she was trying for a steal and she stumbled a couple of times but at no point did it look like she was trying to foul.
Total team brain fog for several stretches yesterday...the worst clearly during the last 18 seconds.
 
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Lane Bryant anyone?

Oh, those husky girls.
 
meyers7 said:
You might be on to something there.


Well he does get lots of good players, but he doesn’t always get the best. UCONN had the best class in 2012. However Tennessee had the best in 2011, Duke in 2011 and Baylor in 2009. In 2009, UCONN had the 49th ranked recruiting class. And they won’t be in the top 25 this year either most likely.


Maybe not as many. Remember, all the other schools players would play for 4 years too. But true, that certainly does help a women’s coach as compared to a men’s coach.


Maybe if he had run a cleaner program???


So why bother with a rant?
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And don't try to make JC out to be Jerry Tarktanian. JC ran a clean program for 25+ years he was here. We all know the NCAA was gunning for him.

Without JC(and Lew Perkins) no Gampel and no bigtime football(at least not as quickly). Alot of what UCONN has beome is because of JC.
 
ghostmutt said:
Bria just didn't do any of it "full out" because she didn't want to draw an intentional foul.

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Wow. You womens' fans are more delusional than some of the mens' fans, and that's saying something.

Intentional foul? They NEVER call an IT in that situation. You'd have to pull her hair or something severe to get the IT. You simply hack the arm extremely hard, or crash through the body in an attempt to do so.

You womens fans are insane. You so desperately want to NOT blame any particular player, that you make up your own reality. I read some of the threads on the girlie forum, and it was hilarious how nobody wants to flat out blame anybody. It's the opposite of here, where SOMEBODY's getting the blame.

Such a girly girly thing. Let's all just get along.

Bria crapped out and didn't give the foul. The point guard who came from under the ND rim crapped out and, after getting back in the play, went behind Diggins and took herself out, going out of her way to AVOID contact with Diggins. The final player with a chance simply stepped out to the top of the key and put her hands up - again, no attempt to foul. Finally, Dolson stood there like a statue until at least 3 ND players blew by her.

They sucked, they lacked execution, game awareness, and heart.

To try to put it on the refs with a lame "we were trying to avoid the intentional foul" is sorely delusional.
 
If men's basketball and football weren't there, women's basketball along with all those other useless sports would not be at the varsity level.
 
I expected this thread to look more like this:
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I'm sorry, I don't think us women's basketball fans are the ones who are delusional here.

Bria herself said that was what she was trying to do. And Skylar said she was surprised the refs didn't blow whistle after Bria "fouled her." So now we have the player saying she fouled, and the opponent saying she fouled. And the refs didn't call it. WTF else do you need to prove you are wrong.

And knock it off with the "girly girl" bullshit. Reading this you'd think the men's team plays flawless basketball, never makes a defensive mistake, never has coaching errors. That's what's obnoxious. And that's why you have women's fans on here defending the team. Because when the women's player does something stupid its because women's basketball is inferior, if the men's player did the same thing it would just be that player's fault, not a reflection of a sport as a whole.

You want to know who is to blame on that last possession? Kelly and Geno.

Kelly for, in her own words, passing to the wrong player. Then getting the ball back and passing it to Kaleena in an impossible situation, and causing a turnover. Classic chicken with it's head cut off.

Geno for not calling a time out when we needed it. And, for not just trusting one of his guards to dribble out the clock and get a shot opportunity.

My point was Hartley did try to foul. Hartley said she fouled. Skylar said she got fouled. It never should have come to that situation in the first place.
 
blackbird said:
I'm sorry, I don't think us women's basketball fans are the ones who are delusional here.

Bria herself said that was what she was trying to do. And Skylar said she was surprised the refs didn't blow whistle after Bria "fouled her." So now we have the player saying she fouled, and the opponent saying she fouled. And the refs didn't call it. WTF else do you need to prove you are wrong.
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Missed call. Get over it. It happens.

The real problem here is the last offensive possession and the utter lack of defense after the Diggins steal.
 
CTBasketball said:
Missed call. Get over it. It happens.

The real problem here is the last offensive possession and the utter lack of defense after the Diggins steal.
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Right, I'm not arguing it was the problem. In fact, earlier I even said that with the way the refs were, they likely couldn't see it.

The argument though was "she should have fouled." She did, it just wasn't called. Missed call. It happens. It's not why the team lost. We've got a laundry list of mistakes the team made that caused this loss, not fouling wasn't one of them.
 
blackbird said:
Right, I'm not arguing it was the problem. In fact, earlier I even said that with the way the refs were, they likely couldn't see it.

The argument though was "she should have fouled." She did, it just wasn't called. Missed call. It happens. It's not why the team lost. We've got a laundry list of mistakes the team made that caused this loss, not fouling wasn't one of them.
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This is true. When in doubt, lay the person out. It'll get called haha.
 
Geno has really looked bad in late game situations the last couple of years, there is no disputing that. I blame that final possession on him, calling a timeout to draw up that play when it was so obvious you play for the last shot and then not calling a timeout were huge mistakes. Oh well, time to figure things out for the tournament.
 
blackbird said:
And knock it off with the "girly girl" bull . Reading this you'd think the men's team plays flawless basketball, never makes a defensive mistake
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You're so clouded by your delusion that you missed the point. The point wasn't that the men play "better" basketball. In fact, it's got nothing to do with the men. My comments would be the same if men's basketball didn't exist.
In fact, it's got nothing to do with the female players - they're trying hard, for the most part, and they have some skills.

It's YOU. The girlie-girl FAN that I can't stand. The ones who want to see a woman come out in a leg cast and get an uncontested layup because - "it just makes us all feel soooo special." We don't want conflict and aggression and hard fouling! Oh no! We want 50 point blowouts and pretty blonde pony tails. Yah!

You simply refuse to blame the women players when they screw up. It's really as simple as that. Blaming the coach. Okay. Blaming the refs. Okay.

But what about our pwitty, gurwee gurs? Hmmm? Can't blame them. Oh, unless they "pass to the wrong person." Note that it wasn't ML's fault for throwing a jump ball to the opponent's best player. Or Dolson for standing still on the last play. Or hartley for not fouling. Or the other one for taking herself out of the play.

It's not because they SUCKED it up. Oh no. That would be meeaning meanie and that's not what girlie-gurl fans like. Oh no. So we safely blame the play call and "passing to the wrong person."

Oh yeah. And the refs. For not calling a ticky tack foul with time running out. DUUH. BIG DUH.

The first and last time I ever considered being a UConn women's fan was when some guy living in girly girl fantasy land back in 04, pasty white and wealthy, I add, and never dribbled a basketball in his entire life, said something to the effect that, "the women's team would give the men's team a good game. They'd probably lose, but it would be a good game." I noted that he was a genius and that the women's team would have a hard time scoring a single basket. He was offended I tell you. OFFENDED.

The wefs wooned ow game. The WOOONED it I tell you. BOo Hoo. They refused to call a foul on us! We twied and twied and twied, but they just wouldn't call it. SHucks! It was fixed.

Oh god. Too funny.
 
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No, you're clouded by your delusion.

You said you couldn't be a women's fan because someone had the audacity to say that they think the women would give the men a run for their money. That's obviously stupid, but the idea that you can't appreciate the game because someone likes the way the women play better is on you. For every one fan that says they think the women can give the men a run for their money, there's 100 middle aged men who think they could actually beat someone like Taurasi.

You asked whose fault that possession was? I told you Kelly. (The one you keep calling the point guard.) She's the one who passed to Stewart. She's the one who drove baseline when she should have held the ball. She's the one who made a poor pass that forced Kaleena (who was losing her balance) to make the pass that led to the steal.

You want to "blame" someone then pick out the person who erred, because blaming everyone is the same thing as blaming no one.

Quite frankly, you are seeing what you want to see. And you come off as being a pig..who doesn't really understand basketball as well as you think you do.
 
Holy hell, Perspective, you lobbed so many hand grenades at the women's side that are simply sweeping generalizations without evidence that it's useless to even try to rebut your statement that women's fans are "delusional." Anybody can cherry-pick examples on this board where a claim seems "not credible" (probably a better descriptor).

It's not worth it when you're just beating your chest. Surely there's a colonial lady waiting for someone to sweep in on a vine and rescue her from a gorilla who could occupy your time better.

Refs don't determine the outcome of a game--that's loser talk. (Perhaps the one exception was the refs for the St. John's/Rutgers game who didn't officiate until the final buzzer.) But fans will always second-guess how officials influenced the flow of a game when a rivalry is defined by high stakes contests that go to the wire. ("High stakes" in the idiom of people who like women's sport; I know you don't consider it high stakes.)

ND fans did the same thing when Kelly Faris beat the Irish on a layup with 14 seconds left for a 79-76 win in South Bend (January 9, 2011). Diggins asked her teammates when they would get sick of losing to "this team," and the rivalry turned.

I don't know anyone saying that the game was fixed, and several people say that the whole team (not just Bria) needs to give better fouls--not that physical play is unladylike. Straw man argument there.

I never understand how men's hoops fans think to elevate the standing of the men's team by denigrating the women's team and its fans (or any UConn female athletes, for that matter). It does nothing of the sort. It merely makes certain men's fans look like insecure jerks who hate sharing the limelight.

I assume most here are UConn alumni and students, or residents and expats of Connecticut. The women's team brings almost universally positive publicity to the school and state. If the male athletes aren't sweating it, why should you?
 
I love our women's team and women in general. I will be following them closely this march especially because its all we've got this year. I hope they have taken these close loses as learning experiences and take it to ND and that other coed team that we can't beat.

Stewart is going to be player of the year in a year or two, she's really a special player. KML too obviously and tuck looks nice as well.
 
If they called every foul in a women's game they would only end when the teams ran out of players.

I sat through 2 sessions of the tournament. The refs call nothing because the alternative is a 4 hour game with 85 fouls.

And I did talk to Diggins during the Louisville/St. John's game. Pretty exciting stuff.
 
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