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Huskies of Honor

gampelcrazies said:
If I’m not mistaken he’s a Top 10 all time scorer all time. Tell me how many guys top 10 are not on that wall.


Thabeet was a Big East player of the year, all american, and helped lead his team to a final four. He’s a top 3 center in UConn history.
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I will give you Thabeet possibly I’ve been a big supporter of his on this board. It’s close.

Vital no way what did he win? What tourney did he get our team to? Did he deserve a better team and coach, maybe. And Lord knows he played hard and was a great kid. But wall, no there’s so many ahead of him that aren’t on there.
 
gampelcrazies said:
If I’m not mistaken he’s a Top 10 all time scorer all time. Tell me how many guys top 10 are not on that wall.


Thabeet was a Big East player of the year, all american, and helped lead his team to a final four. He’s a top 3 center in UConn history.
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Again, best player on terrible teams. Someone on Depaul, Louisville, insert awful team will average 15 a game this year. That's just the nature of a basketball team, does not make them remarkable in any way.
If he or someone like Jalen Adams was a favorite player of yours, that's fine, to each their own. To say Christian Vital should be on the same pedestal as the likes of Ray Allen, Rip, Kemba, etc.. is ridiculous.

Also for the record I'm for adding to the wall. Sanogo should be on there. I'll entertain the idea of say Thabeet too, maybe even Boat. But Vital just does not come close to the standard that's been set.
 
DHL921 said:
Again, best player on terrible teams. Someone on Depaul, Louisville, insert awful team will average 15 a game this year. That's just the nature of a basketball team, does not make them remarkable in any way.
If he or someone like Jalen Adams was a favorite player of yours, that's fine, to each their own. To say Christian Vital should be on the same pedestal as the likes of Ray Allen, Rip, Kemba, etc.. is ridiculous.

Also for the record I'm for adding to the wall. Sanogo should be on there. I'll entertain the idea of say Thabeet too, maybe even Boat. But Vital just does not come close to the standard that's been set.
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I get what you are saying but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t get the honor. He’s not Ray Allen or any of the other guys you mentioned. But just because he played on bad teams he gets automatically disqualified?

And Vital isn’t one of my all time favorites. Just think he deserves it.
 
Thabeet is a no brainer yes for me, Big East PotY and 2x DPotY, All-American, went to a Final Four, one of the best centers ever at UConn, top draft pick. Boatright is right on the line; I think he should be in. Sanogo yes, Hawkins and Jackson probably not.
 
gampelcrazies said:
I get what you are saying but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t get the honor. He’s not Ray Allen or any of the other guys you mentioned. But just because he played on bad teams he gets automatically disqualified?

And Vital isn’t one of my all time favorites. Just think he deserves it.
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I think the argument is that if he were on good teams, he'd never have the numbers he did. If his performance propelled us to some big wins, even on those weak teams, then maybe. As much as I like Vital, he didn't accomplish much at UConn outside of accruing some pretty good personal stats.
 
McLovin said:
Yeah those 3 are on the walls but I think they should be in the rafters too, but they don’t qualify under the current criteria (requires HOF induction - not sure who decided that but it’s bogus).

There aren’t a ton of players from the 2012-2022 era who deserve to be in the Huskies of Honor, but the 2014 championship doesn’t happen without Boat. For that alone I’d love to see him up there.

Edit: if I were in charge I’d make the criteria for number retirement: National Championship OR NBA All Team selection OR NBA Individual award winner (ROY / MVP / DPOY / 6MOY) to qualify for retirement consideration. And NBA HOF = automatic retirement.
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Yeah it’s kind of silly Rip has his jersey retired by his professional team but not his college team.

Also wonder if he’ll eventually get into the basketball HOF too for his all around accomplishments at each level. Not many guys can say they won a championship in college/pros and was an All American/All Star.
 
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DHL921 said:
Absolutely not for Vital. Being the best player on the worst UConn teams in recent history should not get you honored in any way. Dude never even went to the tournament.
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Dude didnt get there because of Covid
Perhaps CV isn't HoH material but he was a great Husky even if the teams were not the best. Kelvin Sampson would take him any day any day and said so in a press conference. He was 1st team all AAC. Not a ton of Huskies can say they were 1st team all conference.
Check the attitude at the door
 
Shamon30 said:
I think the argument is that if he were on good teams, he'd never have the numbers he did. If his performance propelled us to some big wins, even on those weak teams, then maybe. As much as I like Vital, he didn't accomplish much at UConn outside of accruing some pretty good personal stats.
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I completely disagree with that thinking. He would fit on a lot of successful UConn teams and would have put up numbers. If he got the extra covid year he would have been a star on the next years team and they 1000% get out of the first round.
 
AntG168 said:
There is no #5 without Christian Vital. Remember that.
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2020 CV was ascending to All-Beloved status when COVID cut his story short all too soon.

I cherish my opinions that UConn would have beaten George Mason if JC had just let Jeff Adrien take over the game, and that Dyson's injury prevented what would have been NC #3, but I would never advance my arguments for either but saying, "Remember that."
 
gtcam said:
Dude didnt get there because of Covid
Perhaps CV isn't HoH material but he was a great Husky even if the teams were not the best. Kelvin Sampson would take him any day any day and said so in a press conference. He was 1st team all AAC. Not a ton of Huskies can say they were 1st team all conference.
Check the attitude at the door
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Has anyone else noticed @gtcam's man crush on Sampson is borderline weird?
 
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The current criteria for getting your number retired is a joke. I don't even think they should have any numbers retired (Huskies of Honor is more than adequate, now weve reduced the meaning of that to some sort of second tier) but if you're gonna do it, at least have logical criteria.

We shouldn't be retiring players numbers because they went on and had a successful NBA / WNBA career that propelled them to Springfield. It should be 100% about what they accomplished in Storrs.
 
gampelcrazies said:
I completely disagree with that thinking. He would fit on a lot of successful UConn teams and would have put up numbers. If he got the extra covid year he would have been a star on the next years team and they 1000% get out of the first round.
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Fitting in and putting up numbers on good teams does not put your name on the wall. It may sound a bit crass, but Vital has absolutely no business being on that wall next to the likes of Ray, Rip, Emeka, and Kemba.
 
brasssbonanzaa said:
Fitting in and putting up numbers on good teams does not put your name on the wall. It may sound a bit crass, but Vital has absolutely no business being on that wall next to the likes of Ray, Rip, Emeka, and Kemba.
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Agree completely - and agree your top 4 above (which I presume are in order). But it does beg the question about criteria for their relative ranking. It strikes me that being on the wall reflects a kind of ge·stalt of college and pro criteria - because if based on college alone, I don't think Ray Allen would be #1- more likely Rip or Kemba.

But to me, the intriguing question is who's next? Shabazz? (two champtionships and overall leadership); Nadov (perhaps the greatest year of all - but then only one year); Gordon (like Rip so dependable in the clutch).
 
Storrs South said:
The current criteria for getting your number retired is a joke. I don't even think they should have any numbers retired (Huskies of Honor is more than adequate, now weve reduced the meaning of that to some sort of second tier) but if you're gonna do it, at least have logical criteria.

We shouldn't be retiring players numbers because they went on and had a successful NBA / WNBA career that propelled them to Springfield. It should be 100% about what they accomplished in Storrs.
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Retired numbers is silly. There's not that many numbers even available in CBB.
 
You are not going to find a bigger Ray Allen fan than me. I lived in SC when we were recruiting him out of Dalziel, SC. I would go to his games pre and post commit and I knew he was special. Just watching him his junior and senior year in high school. Honestly at times it looked like he was floating around on the floor just by how fluidly he moved with and without the ball. But if any one player should have their number retired it is Bazz. This guy won two chips. And in one carried his team on his back through every post season game. Got a little help from Boat. But name one other 6’ guard that absolutely carried his team to a national championship. Love Ray but this is a lifetime achievement thing for him. And before anyone sat what about Kemba, he was taller by an inch and much quicker and explosive than Bazz and had a better team around him when he won. But he is also in the running in my mind before Ray.
 
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SilentDog said:
You are not going to find a bigger Ray Allen fan than me. I lived in SC when we were recruiting him out of Dalziel, SC. I would go to his games pre and post commit and I knew he was special. Just watching him his junior and senior year in high school. Honestly at times it looked like he was floating around on the floor just by how fluidly he moved with and without the ball. But if any one player should have their number retired it is Bazz. This guy won two chips. And in one carried his team on his back through every post season game. Got a little help from Boat. But name one other 6’ guard that absolutely carried his team to a national championship. Love Ray but this is a lifetime achievement thing for him. And before anyone sat what about Kemba, he was taller by an inch and much quicker and explosive than Bazz and had a better team around him when he won. But he is also in the running in my mind before Ray.
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Kemba Walker definitely carried that team in 2011 - both were equally heroic
 
Jackson will be there if Hurley has to sew the number himself. So will Adama. But until Boat is on the wall, things aren't quite right.
 
Storrs South said:
The current criteria for getting your number retired is a joke. I don't even think they should have any numbers retired (Huskies of Honor is more than adequate, now weve reduced the meaning of that to some sort of second tier) but if you're gonna do it, at least have logical criteria.

We shouldn't be retiring players numbers because they went on and had a successful NBA / WNBA career that propelled them to Springfield. It should be 100% about what they accomplished in Storrs.
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I think the criteria is damned near perfect. Having your number retired at a high-level program should be a damn high mountain to climb. It separates the greats from the greatest. I might add "was National Player of the Year", but nothing else.

There will be three additions soon enough.
 
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MilliniumPrince said:
I think the criteria is damned near perfect. Having your number retired at a high-level program should be a damn high mountain to climb. It separates the greats from the greatest. I might add "was National Player of the Year", but nothing else.

There will be three additions soon enough.
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Based on current criteria, Kemba, Shabazz, Rip and Emeka will not have their numbers retired.

That's your pantheon of players. If they aren't worthy then no one is.

I dunno...seems like a pretty dumb system.
 
There is a reason that pro hall of fames have a waiting period. It rubs off some the bias of the new. UConn abandoned that idea with Kemba Walker and there is no set critieria for inclusion.

If you put in someone like Vitale because you're emotionally invested, then another 50 or 60 guys deserve to go up on the wall as well. You would have 200 HoH in the next ten years. If you put up every major contributor to a Natty or conference championship, there are another 40 guys to put up.

Put enough guys up there and it diminishes the honorees. But maybe that's what the fans want.
 
Storrs South said:
Based on current criteria, Kemba, Shabazz, Rip and Emeka will not have their numbers retired.

That's your pantheon of players. If they aren't worthy then no one is.

I dunno...seems like a pretty dumb system.
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It makes the retiring of the uniform number duplicative and subjective to include others that don't make it on the Hall of Fame criteria.
 
Storrs South said:
Based on current criteria, Kemba, Shabazz, Rip and Emeka will not have their numbers retired.

That's your pantheon of players. If they aren't worthy then no one is.

I dunno...seems like a pretty dumb system.
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But they are/will be Honored. They aren't being ignored or forgotten. It would be a terrible criteria for HoH, but retiring a number should be the highest standard.
 
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