Hurley suggests the season shouldn't start on time. Clearly, he should retire!

[JustbrewitMan]

From the article in the Register, seems to an issue with online classes:

The Toronto product needs to be registered in a course that is not completely online before obtaining his I-20 form to get to America. That means finding a course and a professor at UConn that would fit that need. Brown-Fergson would only need to have one in-person session with the professor, and the rest could be done online.

I may teach at UConn and I can tell you that most if not all professors hate the prospect of only online teaching this fall. For classes I’m involved in, we have come up with a plan for some blending of online-live. I would guess it should be fairly easy for the academic advisors to find at least one course for Javonte Brown Ferguson to allow this to happen.

 

[JimHurley]

I may teach at UConn and I can tell you that most if not all professors hate the prospect of only online teaching this fall. For classes I’m involved in, we have come up with a plan for some blending of online-live. I would guess it should be fairly easy for the academic advisors to find at least one course for Javonte Brown Ferguson to allow this to happen.

Most of, if not all, professors AND students hate the idea of online only classes. But these schools need their money so I don’t think it matters to them.

 

[upstater]

Most of, if not all, professors AND students hate the idea of online only classes. But these schools need their money so I don’t think it matters to them.

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It would be the reverse, wouldn't it? They'd make MORE money with in person classes.

I read the NYT article about people not wanting to teach in person yesterday, and not one mention about in class dynamics for classes that aren't large lectures. Teaching students socially distanced, everyone with a mask on, but of course taping the class for students online at home (which we all must do now when we're in person so as not to run afoul of laws), is a recipe for perhaps an even worse learning/teaching experience than an online class. The only way this works is if no one wears a mask. For large lectures, there's much less of a difference between online and in person. For laboratory work, in person is invaluable.

 

[JimHurley]

??

It would be the reverse, wouldn't it? They'd make MORE money with in person classes.

I read the NYT article about people not wanting to teach in person yesterday, and not one mention about in class dynamics for classes that aren't large lectures. Teaching students socially distanced, everyone with a mask on, but of course taping the class for students online at home (which we all must do now when we're in person so as not to run afoul of laws), is a recipe for perhaps an even worse learning/teaching experience than an online class. The only way this works is if no one wears a mask. For large lectures, there's much less of a difference between online and in person. For laboratory work, in person is invaluable.

The main point I’m trying to make is that it’s ridiculous how these schools will charge full tuition for fully online when it’s worth a fraction of in-person learning. If I was still at UConn, I’d either take community college credits or take a gap semester and work.

 

[upstater]

The main point I’m trying to make is that it’s ridiculous how these schools will charge full tuition for fully online when it’s worth a fraction of in-person learning. If I was still at UConn, I’d either take community college credits or take a gap semester and work.

In a situation like we're experiencing now, where airlines are getting money so they don't go belly up, there is no way to assess value or cost or worth. The only thing to ask is, which corporations or institutions or non-profits are getting propped up by the Fed and treasury. The colleges have the choice to either fire staff (which will make them less like colleges and more like papermills) or charge what they otherwise would (in order to meet their responsibilities (fungible spending has been cut to the bone already, 90% reductions in dept. budgets at my school). Or, we could be more creative and have the federal gov't support these institutions the way airlines are getting support, which would allow them to give a break to families. I'm weighing these decisions for my own children, by the way, so I think you have a solid argument. But until these institutions see relief, there's not much they can do. I'm not calling up the headmaster at my kids' private school and telling him to cut everyone a break, because I know it will sink them. The only thing I can do is decide whether it's worth it to pay tuition for what MAY be online zoom lessons.

 

[superjohn]

Not having kids in school this next school year can't be an option, I can't stress enough how much of a disaster this would be.

 

[Chief00]

??

It would be the reverse, wouldn't it? They'd make MORE money with in person classes.

I read the NYT article about people not wanting to teach in person yesterday, and not one mention about in class dynamics for classes that aren't large lectures. Teaching students socially distanced, everyone with a mask on, but of course taping the class for students online at home (which we all must do now when we're in person so as not to run afoul of laws), is a recipe for perhaps an even worse learning/teaching experience than an online class. The only way this works is if no one wears a mask. For large lectures, there's much less of a difference between online and in person. For laboratory work, in person is invaluable.

The great outdoors

 

[Slick]

Alabama gonna Alabama.

Roll Tide???

 

[Palatine]

There were 700,000 tests yesterday. If the new case number did not go up it would be suspicious.

In case anyone is interested here are the daily death numbers (entire country) since the beginning of he pandemic. The brown line is the seven day moving average.

 

[formerlurker]

Take a day off Toby, it's July 4th!

 

[Rico444]

Not having kids in school this next school year can't be an option, I can't stress enough how much of a disaster this would be.

I'm pretty sure until there's a vaccine, every option is going to be a disaster.

 

[Palatine]

In Europe re-opening school has been going on for a while.

The reopening of schools in 22 European countries has not led to any significant increase in coronavirus infections among children, parents or staff, a videoconference meeting of education ministers from around the EU has heard.

Schools reopening has not triggered rise in Covid-19 cases, EU ministers told

France’s education minister says it is more of a risk keeping children at home

www.theguardian.com

 

[superjohn]

I'm pretty sure until there's a vaccine, every option is going to be a disaster.

There's no waiting on a vaccine.

 

[Vuce]

I'm pretty sure until there's a vaccine, every option is going to be a disaster.

And even with a vaccine there will still be deaths. The question is, what level of fatalities from COVID will be acceptable?

 

[Jaker]

Chances of getting an effective vaccine within the next 2 years?? 50/50?

 

[Rico444]

There's no waiting on a vaccine.

I didn't say that?

 

[David 76]

He said it during a national briefing on the virus without running it by anyone who knows anything. Anyone would have been fired for suggesting harmful ideas in that situation.
How low is the bar?

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

I'm pretty sure until there's a vaccine, every option is going to be a disaster.

Nearly every country in Europe, Asia, and Australia disagree with you.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Chances of getting an effective vaccine within the next 2 years?? 50/50?

Anyone other than those who've been involved in the research who offers a prediction is a fool. There's literally no relevant prior in the history of medicine that mirrors this level of vaccine development. Other than the pre-defined periods of time a study must take in certain phases, a timeline projection is almost meaningless.

 

[Kathy]

In Europe re-opening school has been going on for a while.

The reopening of schools in 22 European countries has not led to any significant increase in coronavirus infections among children, parents or staff, a videoconference meeting of education ministers from around the EU has heard.

Schools reopening has not triggered rise in Covid-19 cases, EU ministers told

France’s education minister says it is more of a risk keeping children at home

www.theguardian.com

Have you looked at their graph compared to ours? We are no where near where they are in this thing. We're still exploding they have flattened