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Hurley Should Have An Honest Talk With Bouk

I think what everyone is forgetting here, and which we all learned recently, is that he hasn't been playing organized basketball for that long. It's been like 5 years of organized basketball, and he's ALREADY a lottery pick talent. Just imagine how insanely good he will be in 5 more years with the best possible coaching at the NBA level. It's honestly scary how good he could be, and most likely will be. I'm very excited for how well he will represent the husky brand for many years in the NBA, and I will follow him very closely as a fan in the NBA.
 
None of our opinions on Bouonights NBA potential matter at all. If the guys who make the picks are saying he will go in the lottery then he has to go. There is way more to risk by coming back than leaving. It's a different landscape than 10-20 years ago
 
Matrim55 said:
The extent of the talk should be "if you declare for the NBA Draft, you will be a multi-millionaire by July. You were a great Husky and you'll always be a great Husky, and we all look forward to watching what you accomplish over the next 15 years in the league. Make sure you shoot 1000 3s a day between now and October, and please finish your course work so we don't get dinged."

That's it. That's the talk.
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He's not a great Husky.
 
I mean let’s put it this way, three weeks ago he was a sure fire 100% lottery pick- last few weeks things have changed somewhat - scouts might now realize durability is an issue , three point shooting , turnovers on drives ,leader ship etc. things bouk can definitely work on - is he gone for the NBA ? 90% most likely- but let’s not sit here after how things have gone the past couple weeks and act like throwing that question out there is beyond ridiculous- there still is a slight chance he comes back and don’t sell Bouk short either - hes deeper than u think. I think it’s insulting to his character from posters who here say “all he cares about is the money and it’s all about the money” - this is a kid who cares about his UConn legacy and how he will be remembered. Dont think that doesn’t weigh on him. Don’t make him sound like a simpleton just doing “everything for the money”. Bouk deeply cares about UConn, his teammates and coaches and fans and if you think he is just gonna turn the page in three seconds and not give a second thought as to how these last couple weeks ended, you’re selling Bouks mentality short. Unlike some young kids, JB cares about the UConn tradition and how his legacy will be viewed years from now - I wish him the best of luck and , yes , he’s most likely gone but don’t sit here and say it’s completely asinine To throw the question out there of “will he come back?” I know it was years ago -but Meka, rip ,Ray kemba and Benny all came back for thier junior years and it benefited them financially. What’s the rush? The nba will always be there - he’s only 19. Best of luck in whatever you decide bouk - maybe there’s a slight chance you come back next year and take Uconn and their fans on a ride you will cherish for the rest of your life.
 
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You guys are nuts. Bouk is better going to the NBA. Forget that his stock won't be improved by another year, his biggest weakness is he lacks an NBA body which he won't get until he gets to the league.

His game is also unlikely to improve with another year in college where he will be double and tripled triple teamed. Something that won't happen in the NBA.

The best thing any of us could do is drive him to the airport with a box lunch and wish him well.
 
freescooter said:
To me he doesn’t look like a sure fire pro. He does some things well but he doesn’t shoot all that well from 3, he hasn’t shown himself to be durable, he isn’t that strong. I have to wonder if he looks tired late in a college season, how will he fare in back to back games in OKC and San Francisco followed by one night off to travel to Boston? I’m of the opinion that NBA teams drafting on “potential” has hurt both the college game and the pro game but that’s not my call.
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Nobody can predict who will be good or bad.
 
SubbaBub said:
You guys are nuts. Bouk is better going to the NBA. Forget that his stock won't be improved by another year, his biggest weakness is he lacks an NBA body which he won't get until he gets to the league.

His game is also unlikely to improve with another year in college where he will be double and tripled triple teamed. Something that won't happen in the NBA.

The best thing any of us could do is drive him to the airport with a box lunch and wish him well.
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We could do better than a box lunch for him.
 
John said:
He's not a great Husky.
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We hadn't made the dance in half a decade. He was the best player on the team that broke that streak -- our longest since the 80s.

We haven't had a first-round pick in seven years. We haven't had a lottery pick in nine years. He's going to break those streaks for us, too.

He's a great Husky.
 
Matrim55 said:
We hadn't made the dance in half a decade. He was the best player on the team that broke that streak -- our longest since the 80s.

We haven't had a first-round pick in seven years. We haven't had a lottery pick in nine years. He's going to break those streaks for us, too.

He's a great Husky.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. He cannot be mentioned in the same breath as our past greats, and it'd be a disservice to them to do so.
 
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brasssbonanzaa said:
That's just not fair. He's not a Ring of Honor player, but that does not at all take away from how good he has been for us and how much credit he deserves for helping to re-raise our profile.
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Yes exactly. He's not a ring of honor great player. He's a very good player, I'm not taking that away from him. Just not a great.
 
Matrim55 said:
We hadn't made the dance in half a decade. He was the best player on the team that broke that streak -- our longest since the 80s.

We haven't had a first-round pick in seven years. We haven't had a lottery pick in nine years. He's going to break those streaks for us, too.

He's a great Husky.
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People are really weird man, and I’m convinced these people haven’t been watchin UCONN basketball, ESPECIALLY where we were as a program not even 4 years ago. Here comes a kid who has helped tremendously to put UCONN basketball back on the map, 1st team all conference and universally recognized as one of the best guards in the country and a lottery to mid 1st round pick, yet people on this forum are saying he isn’t good. Can’t make this up
 
Someone should have an honest talk with jibsey - Bouknight is not (and should not) coming back.

He has a chance to make a lot of money now, and an NBA staff will do a much job developing him than a college staff. This is not hard.
 
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SportsFan88 said:
People are really weird man, and I’m convinced these people haven’t been watchin UCONN basketball, ESPECIALLY where we were as a program not even 4 years ago. Here comes a kid who has helped tremendously to put UCONN basketball back on the map, 1st team all conference and universally recognized as one of the best guards in the country and a lottery to mid 1st round pick, yet people on this forum are saying he isn’t good. Can’t make this up
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It really is dumbfounding. YOu can be critical of his game, which I have been at times. You can be critical of his costly missed free throws last night that greatly diminished UConn's chances of coming back, hell I was. But Bouk has done a lot to help rebuild this program and he should be thanked for that. He doesn't have to be elevated to the like s of Rip, Emeka, Kemba, etc, but UConn fans should realize and be grateful for the impact he has made for UConn and bringing them back to relevancy.
 
John said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. He cannot be mentioned in the same breath as our past greats, and it'd be a disservice to them to do so.
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Talent wise he's a great but accomplishment wise he isn't a great. He fell apart at the end of the season, not the way any of us wanted to see his UConn career end. I think he'll be great in the NBA and am looking forward to cheering him on.
 
jibsey said:
What is his likely draft position? After yesterday it doesn’t seem top 10 but if it is he’s gone. No way he has strength to be great in NBA player right away. Problems are defense, 3 point shooting, durability, maturity. Does he want to be a fringe player? Longshot would be if he really wants to improve his stock should he slip far, and no one knows that draft position for certain yet. Sure I want him back but really so he ends up a more complete player before he leaves. Worked nicely for Rip and Ray, Emeka and many others. One can hope.
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He doesn’t have to be a great player right away. The pros will give him a few years to develop.
 
jibsey said:
What is his likely draft position? After yesterday it doesn’t seem top 10 but if it is he’s gone. No way he has strength to be great in NBA player right away. Problems are defense, 3 point shooting, durability, maturity. Does he want to be a fringe player? Longshot would be if he really wants to improve his stock should he slip far, and no one knows that draft position for certain yet. Sure I want him back but really so he ends up a more complete player before he leaves. Worked nicely for Rip and Ray, Emeka and many others. One can hope.
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The idea that Hurley and Bouk don't talk about this and they need you to tell them is insulting, and, frankly, dumb.
 
He almost certainly played his way out of the top 10, maybe top 15, but he's still getting millions and a guaranteed contract. He's gone.
 
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Huskybass said:
Lottery picks leave. There is no conversation to be had.
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If he is a lottery pick this is a very weak class! I wish him nothing but the best,but most Uconn fans overrated this team and JB!
 
superjohn said:
Talent wise he's a great but accomplishment wise he isn't a great. He fell apart at the end of the season, not the way any of us wanted to see his UConn career end. I think he'll be great in the NBA and am looking forward to cheering him on.
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Here's how I evaluate legacy. If you played them starters minutes in 2006, do we beat George Mason? Whaley, yes, Bouknight, yes. Therefore, both are great Huskies. YMMV.
 
jibsey said:
What is his likely draft position? After yesterday it doesn’t seem top 10 but if it is he’s gone. No way he has strength to be great in NBA player right away. Problems are defense, 3 point shooting, durability, maturity. Does he want to be a fringe player? Longshot would be if he really wants to improve his stock should he slip far, and no one knows that draft position for certain yet. Sure I want him back but really so he ends up a more complete player before he leaves. Worked nicely for Rip and Ray, Emeka and many others. One can hope.
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Bouk will be better suited going to the NBA developmental league. The developmental league will better prepare him for the NBA. A Couple years to get stronger and learn the NBA game.
 
I would bet that a lot of the people saying he should stay were the same ones saying he was going to sit out the rest of the year injured or not. He came back. He gave what he had to get us to the dance, which certainly was no guarantee without him. Certainly a great player that has ushered in another great era at UConn. He had a somewhat disappointing ending here but no one can discount the culture and expectation level he established.
 
Let's have some fun for the nitwits who prove time and time again they know nothing about the NBA draft or the modern NBA. Some consensus lottery picks this season...

1. Cade Cunningham - some called him a generational prospect coming out of HS; a 6'8" playmaker who'll change the fortunes of whichever team wins the lottery. He has more turnovers than assists this year. Has struggled to get past defenders in isolation. Shot 5/22 vs Texas, 2/17 inside the arc. Just shot 3/14 against mighty Liberty.

2. Jalen Suggs - didn't dominate the lowly WCC. Had many games where he wasn't much of a factor. Shot under 30% from three in conference play. Played on a loaded team where the opposition couldn't focus on stopping him.

3. Jalen Green - streaky shooter, poor defender, featherweight, often plays out of control/too fast.

4. Jonathan Kuminga - consensus Top 5 pick played for the Ignite, shot a brutal .387 / .246 / .625 and looked very raw.

5. Keon Johnson - SG that nearly every mock draft has above Bouknight. Averaged 11/3/2 and shot 27% from three. Had more turnovers than assists. Tennesse got upset/pasted by a team that hadn't won an NCAA tourney game in like 40 years, in which he only shot 6/16 for 14 points. He has a teammate who'll be a late lottery pick and he still couldn't lead Tenn to a win over lowly Oregon State. What a loser. I bet he too played himself out of the Top 10 because of one or two games.

ENTER BOUKNIGHT TERRITORY

6. Jalen Johnson - posted a pedestrian 11 & 6 for a terrible Duke team before leaving the program. Started only 8 of 13 games.

7. Kai Jones - Didn't even start for Texas. Big man who averaged 9 & 5 for a Texas team that lost to some other school from Texas in the opening round.

8. Moses Moody - poor finisher, average athleticism, his entire game may be predicated on being taller than DI guards he was able to easily shoot over. His ceiling is a concern and much debated.

9. Jaden Springer - average athlete, not a great scorer. Handle has a long way to go.

10. Corey Kispert - Hear ye, hear ye: who wants to spend a lottery pick on Joe Harris?

11. Scottie Barnes - who wants to draft a "guard" who can't score from the perimeter and has a less impressive physical profile than we were told?

If our fanbase actually watched other games I guarantee you they'd say all but say everyone but Evan Mobley shouldn't enter the draft this year.
 
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