Hurley Should Have An Honest Talk With Bouk

[ElmCity40th]

Bouk is outta here and I personally hope he does fall out the lottery to a team in better position to win now which would probably mean he ends up with a veteran group who can teach him the pro game. Thanks for being the excited player you are Bouk. You helped a lot with putting us back on track.

 

[Stinger92860]

What is his likely draft position? After yesterday it doesn’t seem top 10 but if it is he’s gone. No way he has strength to be great in NBA player right away. Problems are defense, 3 point shooting, durability, maturity. Does he want to be a fringe player? Longshot would be if he really wants to improve his stock should he slip far, and no one knows that draft position for certain yet. Sure I want him back but really so he ends up a more complete player before he leaves. Worked nicely for Rip and Ray, Emeka and many others. One can hope.

2020-21 NBA rookie scale contract figures for first-round picks

30th pick got $1.6M last year, 15th got $2.6M. Not leaving would be a huge mistake.

 

[willie99]

What would Jim Calhoun say? I don't know, but at least it would mean something to me

Kids who left UConn after two seasons

Butler
Villanueva
Gay
Drummond (1 and done with JC retirement and tournament banning)

I'm sorry, one can sing and dance and call me all the names in the Bouk, he's NOT in their class at this stage in his career

If he's a lottery pick, he should leave. But that's a mighty big if in my eyes. I have to see it to believe it

For every dream that comes true, there are multiple Boones or Hamiltons. Be prepared to earn your second contract. The NBA has no patience

The Twerps put a great on ball defender on him yesterday. Every NBA team has multiple on ball defenders that are better than that

 

[kemba]

Let's have some fun for the nitwits who prove time and time again they know nothing about the NBA draft or the modern NBA. Some consensus lottery picks this season...

1. Cade Cunningham - some called him a generational prospect coming out of HS; a 6'8" playmaker who'll change the fortunes of whichever team wins the lottery. He has more turnovers than assists this year. Has struggled to get past defenders in isolation. Shot 5/22 vs Texas, 2/17 inside the arc. Just shot 3/14 against mighty Liberty.

2. Jalen Suggs - didn't dominate the lowly WCC. Had many games where he wasn't much of a factor. Shot under 30% from three in conference play. Played on a loaded team where the opposition couldn't focus on stopping him.

3. Jalen Green - streaky shooter, poor defender, featherweight, often plays out of control/too fast.

4. Jonathan Kuminga - consensus Top 5 pick played for the Ignite, shot a brutal .387 / .246 / .625 and looked very raw.

5. Keon Johnson - SG that nearly every mock draft has above Bouknight. Averaged 11/3/2 and shot 27% from three. Had more turnovers than assists. Tennesse got upset/pasted by a team that hadn't won an NCAA tourney game in like 40 years, in which he only shot 6/16 for 14 points. He has a teammate who'll be a late lottery pick and he still couldn't lead Tenn to a win over lowly Oregon State. What a loser. I bet he too played himself out of the Top 10 because of one or two games.

ENTER BOUKNIGHT TERRITORY

6. Jalen Johnson - posted a pedestrian 11 & 6 for a terrible Duke team before leaving the program. Started only 8 of 13 games.

7. Kai Jones - Didn't even start for Texas. Big man who averaged 9 & 5 for a Texas team that lost to some other school from Texas in the opening round.

8. Moses Moody - poor finisher, average athleticism, his entire game may be predicated on being taller than DI guards he was able to easily shoot over. His ceiling is a concern and much debated.

9. Jaden Springer - average athlete, not a great scorer. Handle has a long way to go.

10. Corey Kispert - Hear ye, hear ye: who wants to spend a lottery pick on Joe Harris?

11. Scottie Barnes - who wants to draft a "guard" who can't score from the perimeter and has a less impressive physical profile than we were told?

If our fanbase actually watched other games I guarantee you they'd say all but say everyone but Evan Mobley shouldn't enter the draft this year.

There should be a setting that requires everyone to read this post word for word before they are allowed to make a post on whether Bouknight, or any player really should or shouldn't go pro

 

[navery12]

Let's have some fun for the nitwits who prove time and time again they know nothing about the NBA draft or the modern NBA. Some consensus lottery picks this season...

1. Cade Cunningham - some called him a generational prospect coming out of HS; a 6'8" playmaker who'll change the fortunes of whichever team wins the lottery. He has more turnovers than assists this year. Has struggled to get past defenders in isolation. Shot 5/22 vs Texas, 2/17 inside the arc. Just shot 3/14 against mighty Liberty.

2. Jalen Suggs - didn't dominate the lowly WCC. Had many games where he wasn't much of a factor. Shot under 30% from three in conference play. Played on a loaded team where the opposition couldn't focus on stopping him.

3. Jalen Green - streaky shooter, poor defender, featherweight, often plays out of control/too fast.

4. Jonathan Kuminga - consensus Top 5 pick played for the Ignite, shot a brutal .387 / .246 / .625 and looked very raw.

5. Keon Johnson - SG that nearly every mock draft has above Bouknight. Averaged 11/3/2 and shot 27% from three. Had more turnovers than assists. Tennesse got upset/pasted by a team that hadn't won an NCAA tourney game in like 40 years, in which he only shot 6/16 for 14 points. He has a teammate who'll be a late lottery pick and he still couldn't lead Tenn to a win over lowly Oregon State. What a loser. I bet he too played himself out of the Top 10 because of one or two games.

ENTER BOUKNIGHT TERRITORY

6. Jalen Johnson - posted a pedestrian 11 & 6 for a terrible Duke team before leaving the program. Started only 8 of 13 games.

7. Kai Jones - Didn't even start for Texas. Big man who averaged 9 & 5 for a Texas team that lost to some other school from Texas in the opening round.

8. Moses Moody - poor finisher, average athleticism, his entire game may be predicated on being taller than DI guards he was able to easily shoot over. His ceiling is a concern and much debated.

9. Jaden Springer - average athlete, not a great scorer. Handle has a long way to go.

10. Corey Kispert - Hear ye, hear ye: who wants to spend a lottery pick on Joe Harris?

11. Scottie Barnes - who wants to draft a "guard" who can't score from the perimeter and has a less impressive physical profile than we were told?

If our fanbase actually watched other games I guarantee you they'd say all but say everyone but Evan Mobley shouldn't enter the draft this year.

And we have evidence from after the USC game that at least a handful of posters don't think Mobley should leave early

 

[CL82]

You guys are nuts. Bouk is better going to the NBA. Forget that his stock won't be improved by another year, his biggest weakness is he lacks an NBA body which he won't get until he gets to the league.

His game is also unlikely to improve with another year in college where he will be double and tripled triple teamed. Something that won't happen in the NBA.

The best thing any of us could do is drive him to the airport with a box lunch and wish him well.

I am inclined to agree. I’d love to have him back, and I do think that he could bulk up a little bit more at UConn, but at the end of the day, as I’ve said previously, you don’t walk away from life-changing money.

Now, if for any reason he decides to come back, I’m delighted to have him here.

 

[RayRay]

I always thought CT had overall smart educated people, rational in thought. Threads like this make me question this. Threads like this also point out how incredibly emotional many of you are, and how rationality goes out the window when taken over by emotion.

 

[Beowulf]

lot of posts saying hurley/uconn struggling to coach/develop. lot of posts saying bouk should come back so he can be coached and developed. make it make sense

 

[Friarsnoop]

If he was in danger of dropping out of the first round, he might consider staying (although I'd still advise him to go). Since he's going to be in the middle of the lottery, it would be a crime to advise him to return.

 

[RayRay]

lot of posts saying hurley/uconn struggling to coach/develop. lot of posts saying bouk should come back so he can be coached and developed. make it make sense

Not sure if this was directed for me, but I'll take a shot. 3 years ago we were in the basement and going nowhere fast. We were the laughing stock of the AAC, and had no clear direction for success. In comes Hurley and 3 seasons in we are one of the top 3 teams in the big east in our first season back and we got back into the NCAA tournament. That's in 3 years. 3 Y E A R S. Can you imagine what the next 3 will look like with all Hurley players in his system and in non covid seasons?

Bouknight before the season was considered a surefire lottery - top 20 pick once he finished his sophomore season. Then the season started, he looked incredible, better than expected in his sophomore leap, and now he was being projected in the top 5-13 in all mock drafts. Then he suffered an injury, spent 6 weeks on the shelf, and came back without his conditioning being peak shape, and struggled to find his rhythm. He still averaged over 16ppg despite all of this in those games he was back. Now the board wants to crucify the kid and say he should no longer be a lottery pick and he should come back for a 3rd season. Kudos to him if he does, but anyone with half a brain realized he's not going to because he will be gauranteed somewhere between 10-15 million over his first 3 seasons in the NBA and the hopefully sign a lucrative deal afterwards.

That about sums up those two things without the emotion of a sad/frustrating loss yesterday.

 

[Rocktheworld]

He’s going to look good at the combine and crack top 10, two games (one of which being the cramp game) won’t impact that much.

 

[jibsey]

What would Jim Calhoun say? I don't know, but at least it would mean something to me

Kids who left UConn after two seasons

Butler
Villanueva
Gay
Drummond (1 and done with JC retirement and tournament banning)

I'm sorry, one can sing and dance and call me all the names in the Bouk, he's NOT in their class at this stage in his career

If he's a lottery pick, he should leave. But that's a mighty big if in my eyes. I have to see it to believe it

For every dream that comes true, there are multiple Boones or Hamiltons. Be prepared to earn your second contract. The NBA has no patience

The Twerps put a great on ball defender on him yesterday. Every NBA team has multiple on ball defenders that are better than that

Correct, he may reap millions but he's not in their class after 2 years. Hopefully he'll become better.

 

[CTrefugee]

Injury prone - go now or maybe 50 years of regret.

 

[casual-yardin]

What would Jim Calhoun say? I don't know, but at least it would mean something to me

Kids who left UConn after two seasons

Butler
Villanueva
Gay
Drummond (1 and done with JC retirement and tournament banning)

I'm sorry, one can sing and dance and call me all the names in the Bouk, he's NOT in their class at this stage in his career

If he's a lottery pick, he should leave. But that's a mighty big if in my eyes. I have to see it to believe it

For every dream that comes true, there are multiple Boones or Hamiltons. Be prepared to earn your second contract. The NBA has no patience

The Twerps put a great on ball defender on him yesterday. Every NBA team has multiple on ball defenders that are better than that

If you were a consensus first round pick Calhoun would hold the door for you on the way out. This was widely reported and at the time I believe a first rounder's contract was guaranteed for 3 years (whereas now it's only 2 years). As a fringe lottery pick at worst he'd do the same for Bouknight.

 

[willie99]

lot of posts saying hurley/uconn struggling to coach/develop. lot of posts saying bouk should come back so he can be coached and developed. make it make sense

Are they the same people making the same points?

I think people bashing Hurley are the same people that think Bouk is a lottery lock

I happen to support Hurley, and I don't think Bouk is ready. However, I'm smart enough to know I'm not an NBA scout. If he's a lottery pick, he should leave.

 

[TRest]

Let's have some fun for the nitwits who prove time and time again they know nothing about the NBA draft or the modern NBA. Some consensus lottery picks this season...

1. Cade Cunningham - some called him a generational prospect coming out of HS; a 6'8" playmaker who'll change the fortunes of whichever team wins the lottery. He has more turnovers than assists this year. Has struggled to get past defenders in isolation. Shot 5/22 vs Texas, 2/17 inside the arc. Just shot 3/14 against mighty Liberty.

2. Jalen Suggs - didn't dominate the lowly WCC. Had many games where he wasn't much of a factor. Shot under 30% from three in conference play. Played on a loaded team where the opposition couldn't focus on stopping him.

3. Jalen Green - streaky shooter, poor defender, featherweight, often plays out of control/too fast.

4. Jonathan Kuminga - consensus Top 5 pick played for the Ignite, shot a brutal .387 / .246 / .625 and looked very raw.

5. Keon Johnson - SG that nearly every mock draft has above Bouknight. Averaged 11/3/2 and shot 27% from three. Had more turnovers than assists. Tennesse got upset/pasted by a team that hadn't won an NCAA tourney game in like 40 years, in which he only shot 6/16 for 14 points. He has a teammate who'll be a late lottery pick and he still couldn't lead Tenn to a win over lowly Oregon State. What a loser. I bet he too played himself out of the Top 10 because of one or two games.

ENTER BOUKNIGHT TERRITORY

6. Jalen Johnson - posted a pedestrian 11 & 6 for a terrible Duke team before leaving the program. Started only 8 of 13 games.

7. Kai Jones - Didn't even start for Texas. Big man who averaged 9 & 5 for a Texas team that lost to some other school from Texas in the opening round.

8. Moses Moody - poor finisher, average athleticism, his entire game may be predicated on being taller than DI guards he was able to easily shoot over. His ceiling is a concern and much debated.

9. Jaden Springer - average athlete, not a great scorer. Handle has a long way to go.

10. Corey Kispert - Hear ye, hear ye: who wants to spend a lottery pick on Joe Harris?

11. Scottie Barnes - who wants to draft a "guard" who can't score from the perimeter and has a less impressive physical profile than we were told?

If our fanbase actually watched other games I guarantee you they'd say all but say everyone but Evan Mobley shouldn't enter the draft this year.

Where’s all the European guys nobody has ever heard of?

 

[Kitaman]

Bouk has been injured twice (high school and college). I think he knows the risks, and will certainly factor that in his decision.

Also he was constantly hitting the floor, and with each fall exponentially risking his professional career.

Not worth chancing another year with his recklessness. As a high pick, immediately he becomes an investment. And with investments, the team will attempt to maximize his current assets and develop new assets to generate higher profits and of course a higher ROI.

If he is smart, even if he doesn't last, he should have enough money to jump start the remainder of his life and live debt free forever (with smart living).

 

[UofCT]

Get one full season in the Big East playing in front of your home crowd and winning the Big East Championship. Deep run in the NCAA's. Playing against guys your own age. Developing physically and emotionally. Right Joel, Time of your life. Do it. Do it.

Or buy a mansion for your mom, fill her bank account so she never has to work again.

 

[navery12]

We know Hurley reads the Boneyard so hopefully part of the honest talk will be about creating an account to take advantage of the great stock tips and grow his millions of dollars into even more money

 

[polycom]

Let's have some fun for the nitwits who prove time and time again they know nothing about the NBA draft or the modern NBA. Some consensus lottery picks this season...

1. Cade Cunningham - some called him a generational prospect coming out of HS; a 6'8" playmaker who'll change the fortunes of whichever team wins the lottery. He has more turnovers than assists this year. Has struggled to get past defenders in isolation. Shot 5/22 vs Texas, 2/17 inside the arc. Just shot 3/14 against mighty Liberty.

2. Jalen Suggs - didn't dominate the lowly WCC. Had many games where he wasn't much of a factor. Shot under 30% from three in conference play. Played on a loaded team where the opposition couldn't focus on stopping him.

3. Jalen Green - streaky shooter, poor defender, featherweight, often plays out of control/too fast.

4. Jonathan Kuminga - consensus Top 5 pick played for the Ignite, shot a brutal .387 / .246 / .625 and looked very raw.

5. Keon Johnson - SG that nearly every mock draft has above Bouknight. Averaged 11/3/2 and shot 27% from three. Had more turnovers than assists. Tennesse got upset/pasted by a team that hadn't won an NCAA tourney game in like 40 years, in which he only shot 6/16 for 14 points. He has a teammate who'll be a late lottery pick and he still couldn't lead Tenn to a win over lowly Oregon State. What a loser. I bet he too played himself out of the Top 10 because of one or two games.

ENTER BOUKNIGHT TERRITORY

6. Jalen Johnson - posted a pedestrian 11 & 6 for a terrible Duke team before leaving the program. Started only 8 of 13 games.

7. Kai Jones - Didn't even start for Texas. Big man who averaged 9 & 5 for a Texas team that lost to some other school from Texas in the opening round.

8. Moses Moody - poor finisher, average athleticism, his entire game may be predicated on being taller than DI guards he was able to easily shoot over. His ceiling is a concern and much debated.

9. Jaden Springer - average athlete, not a great scorer. Handle has a long way to go.

10. Corey Kispert - Hear ye, hear ye: who wants to spend a lottery pick on Joe Harris?

11. Scottie Barnes - who wants to draft a "guard" who can't score from the perimeter and has a less impressive physical profile than we were told?

If our fanbase actually watched other games I guarantee you they'd say all but say everyone but Evan Mobley shouldn't enter the draft this year.

^^this guy watches the nba listen to him.

 

[polycom]

For the people who think bouk isn’t ready for the nba, do you think they play better defense in the nba or in college?

 

[methodology]

Reasons to declare:
1) Millions of guaranteed dollars in salary and sponsorships
2) No more classes
3) Better coaching

Reasons to return:
1) N/A
2) See #1

Not sure about coaching at that level you need to have the foundation and it's up to the player, given coaches advice, to improve on their own. That's why the ncaa will always exist it's free developmental league for the NBA

 

[polycom]

Not sure about coaching at that level you need to have the foundation and it's up to the player, given coaches advice, to improve on their own. That's why the ncaa will always exist it's free developmental league for the NBA

Kawhi would like a word with you. So would a long list of players but kawhi would like the first word.

 

[gtcam]

Let's wait and see after all the workouts and the interviews - thats the best feel for draft position
I wish him all the best - Bouk needs to be prepared
He's not coming back - Dan Hurley recruited with this as a reality

 

[uconnbill]

he will go pro and UConn still needs a shooter for next season.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

For the people who think bouk isn’t ready for the nba, do you think they play better defense in the nba or in college?

Bouk is not remotely ready for the NBA, but he should go anyway. The money is too big to pass up.

 

[polycom]

Bouk is not remotely ready for the NBA, but he should go anyway. The money is too big to pass up.

He’s shown enough potential for the nba. That’s means he’s “ready”

 

[nelsonmuntz]

He’s shown enough potential for the nba. That’s means he’s “ready”

Millions of dollars means he should go.

You are exactly the kind of person that would dig in on a ridiculous position by arguing the definition of commonly used words. Bouk is not ready to produce at the NBA level. But if you want to guarantee Bouk will be a 10+ppg scorer next year, go for it.

 

[polycom]

Millions of dollars means he should go.

You are exactly the kind of person that would dig in on a ridiculous position by arguing the definition of commonly used words. Bouk is not ready to produce at the NBA level. But if you want to guarantee Bouk will be a 10+ppg scorer next year, go for it.

This is a weird argument you want to have, unfortunately for you I’m not willing to argue with someone like you.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

This is a weird argument you want to have, unfortunately for you I’m not willing to argue with someone like you.

Once I call out your trolling, I am a lot less fun to argue with. We have been here before.