I mean a more positionless line up. I thought Ross’s handle looked a little suspect in the exhibition. I know he played point in his younger days but I don’t think we need to put labels on these guys. Hurley suggested Liam might handle it more and we know Alex can facilitate. Ross might be fine bringing it up as well as Solo I don’t know but Dan definitely liked the big line ups and he said so. Hurley made it apparent that he needs to get Ross on the floor and that will have to come at the expense of the traditional point guard position.
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The way Hurely builds the offense avoids putting square players in round holes. The offense evolves was the players' individual games evolve. If Ross is indeed breaking through, of course they are going to design sets and player combos to take advantage of that. As a player, I would take playing less minutes in an offense that is taking advantage of my skills and putting me in a position to succeed when I am on the court, rather than playing 40 minutes in an offense that features just a couple of players and doesn't work half the time.
Last years' guards were reputedly tall, but Cam and Tristen were 6'3" at the NBA Combine, almost same as Aidan at 6'3", Hass at 6'2".
Interestingly, Casle was 6'5 1/2" and Solo 6'3", but Solo has a slightly longer wingspan at 6'10" to 6'9", so similar as a functional defender.
If you play Ross, McNeeley, and Solo together, as Danny is threatening, the perimeter defense is huge.
But even without Ross, the backcourt is bigger than last year, since Aidan and Hass won't play together.
Interestingly, Casle was 6'5 1/2" and Solo 6'3", but Solo has a slightly longer wingspan at 6'10" to 6'9", so similar as a functional defender.
If you play Ross, McNeeley, and Solo together, as Danny is threatening, the perimeter defense is huge.
But even without Ross, the backcourt is bigger than last year, since Aidan and Hass won't play together.
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You're assuming that Aidan and Hass would be their loisted heights at the combine. They wouldn't. Everybody gets a 1 or 2in boost on the official roster.
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there is a line between coach speak....and Truth.
He mentioned Ross four different times in 12 minute presser, without being asked.
He was asked about Hassan not starting and he talked about Ross.
He is either trying to a) build his confidence, b)set high expectations or 3)Dan Hurley genuinely believes it.
I think all 3 might be true on this one, though choice b) can definitely backfire
He mentioned Ross four different times in 12 minute presser, without being asked.
He was asked about Hassan not starting and he talked about Ross.
He is either trying to a) build his confidence, b)set high expectations or 3)Dan Hurley genuinely believes it.
I think all 3 might be true on this one, though choice b) can definitely backfire
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Hurley has to be the greatest salesmen in college basketball. Keeping this much talent on a team season after season and still keep the harmony, peace, joy and unity, makes Hurley the top Coach in the land. I don't see any coach that can manage to keep his bench players intact, committed and loyal.
I suspect his sales pitch is a 'Championship Family' style pitch. Makes sense if so, because he's the only Coach in the Nation qualified to sell this.
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You really have to use the eye test. Example I guarantee at the combine without shoes Taris will measure at least two inches taller than Sanogo. I have not looked at what Taris is officially listed at but I think it is 6’10”, Sanogo I know was listed at 6’9” at UConn and I think at the combine he was measured below 6’7” w/o shoes. I am not saying Taris is or will be better than Adama but to my eye he is at least two inches taller than Sanogo. I also like how wide he is.
The great Al Maguire coined the term aircraft carrier for big men that take up space in the lane. Taris and of course DC are aircraft carriers. The width makes a difference especially when it is coupled with length. DC had both of those and so does Taris. Hurley got it right between Samson and Taris we will be fine at center.
He knows his challenge is finding the right guard combos. Karaban and McNeeley are going to play the most minutes followed by I am guessing Ball. The 40 minutes at center are spoken for. I think 60 minutes a game between AK and Liam is a lock. So 100 of the 200 minutes are spoken for. The battle for the remaining 100 minutes will be a war.
Practices will be intense. Worried about to intense then a practice injury but it seems every one of our great teams even under JC seemed to have more injuries in practice than games.
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As long as we don’t hear “Ferrari sitting in the garage” - th
Correct on B the phrase “Ferrari sitting in the garage” comes to mind. Rodney was sunk after that perceptually.
Correct on B the phrase “Ferrari sitting in the garage” comes to mind. Rodney was sunk after that perceptually.
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He's not our best player.
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Hass is a nice defender and plays well within the offense, but is limited from the perimeter.
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Yeah I'm really interested to see how he looks when he's back. I'm not saying Dan is exaggerating, but Ross didn't even see the court for the majority of the season last year, and now he's starting? It's possible, but Hurley also said that Samson had wall potential, so there is a history of coach speak from him.
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You're comparing 2 different height measurements. In college the players' heights are listed with shoes on, which generally adds 1" to 1.5" to a player's height in bare feet. And if a player is in between an inch (e.g. 6-5.5) they round up.
At the NBA Draft Combine they measure players in bare feet. Before the last 2 years they measured both in bare feet and with basketball shoes on. (see 2022 NBA Draft Combine Measurements - Draft Combine Anthrometric | Stats | NBA.com).
For example, Karaban was measured at 6-6.5 in bare feet at the draft combine. With shoes he's probably 6-7.5. He's listed by UConn at 6-8.
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For some reason Clingan and Edey were listed basically their real barefoot height in college and now the NBA. They always would've been listed as 7'3 and 7'5 in the past for both college and the NBA.
Basically the majority of the new players in the NBA have shrunk according to college listings and now NBA listings. The veteran players in the league all have that built in 1.5 inch height increase.
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Attitude, approach, preparation, mindset, maturity. Go watch a game from last year that Ross got into. He seems like a spaz. He was immature. Maybe he got it on his own, maybe someone got in his ear and then he got it. But he decided he to dedicate himself to getting better, maybe in the weight room, etc. That's what made MJ the best ever - his competitiveness drove him to work harder than everyone else all the time. If you start with his talent and do that, you end up the GOAT.
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It would not surprise me if Aiden's 6'3" is as legitimate as Cam's 6'5" that he was listed as last season.
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yeah i think ball would be just fine as our de facto "point guard" just b/c he can defend other PGs. otherwise in a positionless offensive system based on constant ball movement we dont need a traditional PG to run the offense. we'll have four guys on the floor at any given time that can bring the ball up and break a press. id say we only need a traditional C for defensive purposes and we have two.
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I noticed that also and was confused. I'm pretty certain that in college the listed heights are with shoes on, although the below doesn't seem to agree with that. In the NBA I'm not sure what they're doing now.
Jordan Hawkins measured 6-4.25 in bare feet at the combine. At UConn he was listed at 6-5 and in the NBA he's listed at 6-5. Adama Sanogo was measured at 6-7.25" at the combine. He was listed at 6-9 at UConn and is listed as 6-9 in the NBA.
Castle was measured at 6-5.5 at the combine. At UConn he was listed at 6-6. In the NBA he's listed as 6-6.
Clingan was measured at 7-1.75 at the combine. At UConn he was listed as 7-2 and in the NBA he is listed as 7-2.
Newton was measured at 6-3.25 and the combine. At UConn he was listed at 6-5 and in the NBA he's listed as 6-5.
Spencer was measured at 6-3 at the combine. At UConn he was listed at 6-4 and in the NBA he's listed at 6-4.
So all over the map. I guess we need to convert all these measurements to Hilton Units and then it might make more sense.
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NBA camps help players a lot. Being in an environment where you’re trying to showcase yourself amongst some of the best does wonders for your confidence. No sacrificing, no worrying about minutes or anything, just going out to show how good of a player you can be.
Having that “me” period to see what you’re capable of and bringing it back to your team is very helpful. Ross looked completely different and fearless during that scrimmage.
Need all of our stars to find their way to camps or team USA over the summer.
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I have seen what you mean. Even in the scrimmage. I wouldn't say a spazz, I would say a rookie QB trying to process everything as the game has sped up. Over thinking perhaps. The Body can't flow state when the brain is stuck in paralysis by analysis. When I coached I had players like that. They weren't immature. They needed time to assimilate the playbook, the rotations, and then get enough court time to reaally feel comfortable out there. To get over the fear of making a mistake. A Different position, but i thought it took Facey along time too. Maybe that's what's clicked with Ross.
or maybe it is all Coach Speak to get Ross to that level of comfort through Dan Hurley's jedi mind tricks.
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We are at the championship game last year and they are doing the starting lineups. Once I realized the size advantage v Purdue I opened up FanDuel and hammered UCONN. I had us anyway but I went big. Quality at size matters. A lot.
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Ross may just be an example of a late bloomer. Grew 6 inches in high school. All of a sudden he went from 6’1” to 6’7”. And he probably could do things on the floor that were new to him. Took a couple years to merge the old game with the new game.
What I saw when he got in games was a player who was long, quick and trying to figure out how he was going to make an impact in the little time he had on the floor. So if he looked rushed I think that had a lot to do with it.
I mean NBA scouts were asking questions about him when they were allowed to watch practice. In fact it was not a few scouts it was most scouts. I saw the talent and I have read a few posts that he is not a quick twitch athlete. Those with that opinion I think will be surprised.
If he is playing great d in practice and rebounding, shooting well from distance and getting to the rim he makes us a better team because of his size.
What I saw when he got in games was a player who was long, quick and trying to figure out how he was going to make an impact in the little time he had on the floor. So if he looked rushed I think that had a lot to do with it.
I mean NBA scouts were asking questions about him when they were allowed to watch practice. In fact it was not a few scouts it was most scouts. I saw the talent and I have read a few posts that he is not a quick twitch athlete. Those with that opinion I think will be surprised.
If he is playing great d in practice and rebounding, shooting well from distance and getting to the rim he makes us a better team because of his size.
Interesting. Now I am very eager to watch him play.
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Do we know if Ross is able to go tonight?
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Yes he's in
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