Hurley on four-out, one-in offense

[auror]

With Newton, Alleyne & Hawkins, if we pick up a PF that can bang 3's, the 4 out can be really dangerous.

Would take a B level Manek, Banchero, Jalen Wilson, Deandre Daniels type.

Now that's a team that could make a deep cut into the tourney.

Yeah maybe somebody like a Samson Johnson or Alex Karaban-type.

 

[Jay-Bone]

Yeah maybe somebody like a Samson Johnson or Alex Karaban-type.

If they're ready for the big stage, most definitely. lol

Honestly, surprised you got sarcastic about this instead of AJ.

 

[bendm]

If they're ready for the big stage

if theyre not up for it then we're not up for it because we aint bringin in any more rotation bigs. 1 good G and 2 or 3 depth pieces.

 

[dennismenace]

We would have to revamp the entire offensive scheme and working in a number of brand new people at the same time. In addition, as others have said, it greatly depends on the ability to hit the three point shot. Is it possible? We shall see. Hurley also quoted in the Courant as saying he would like to go to a 9 man rotation. We shall see. I hope the 4/1 is not in lieu of a running transition type offense but rather as an alternative depending on the circumstances. It certainly is more possible with some people who can shoot and play defense.

 

[Jay-Bone]

if theyre not up for it then we're not up for it because we aint bringin in any more rotation bigs. 1 good G and 2 or 3 depth pieces.

Believe me, I hope they're up for it, and it'd be great if they were. I'm just worried about revolving a 4 out shooting offense around a "star" who can't shoot nor is a PF.

 

[bendm]

it greatly depends on the ability to hit the three point shot.

check. we'd have 3 very good three point shooter in the starting lineup plus AJ on the perimeter all spreading the floor for sanogo.

Hurley also quoted in the Courant as saying he would like to go to a 9 man rotation.

check. 1 more good G and we have a 9 man rotation.

I hope the 4/1 is not in lieu of a running transition type offense

check. a 4/1 with 4 super quick and athletic Gs lends itself to forcing turnovers and getting out in transition

 

[bendm]

Believe me, I hope they're up for it, and it'd be great if they were. I'm just worried about revolving a 4 out shooting offense around a "star" who can't shoot nor is a PF.

i dont think hurley is moving to a 4/1 to feature AJ he's gonna be our 4th option on offense at best

 

[Jay-Bone]

i dont think hurley is moving to a 4/1 to feature AJ he's gonna be our 4th option on offense at best

You're right. And its not my job on the line. I will enjoy the season either way and make money betting accordingly. But wouldn't be betting that scenario, lol. Yikes. It can work in the BE, but can get crushed in the big leagues.

 

[Jay-Bone]

I will give Hurley credit, it takes huge balls to revolve a 4 out around a star who can't shoot or dribble or D bigs. That's amazing! Lets do it! Challenge accepted!

I'm going to make a lot of money off our ranking next year. Although Newton and Alleyne have me concerned. They're legit with Sanogo.

 

[Dabutlerdidit]

Adama needs to work on his ability to pass out the post all off-season. He’s a tremendous scorer and post player. He needs to learn patience and decision making at this point. Our offense will be highly dangerous with that.

Hurley needs to give him a goal, like 3 or 4 assists/game

 

[Jay-Bone]

Yeah maybe somebody like a Samson Johnson or Alex Karaban-type.

What are the chances you gave the same type of snide remark about Johnson and Diggins last year? I wouldn't be surprised, seems like your style. The unknowns will always save us, and round and round we go, so smart.

 

[bendm]

I will give Hurley credit, it takes huge balls to revolve a 4 out around a star who can't shoot or dribble or D bigs.

are you on a repeat cycle? i could swear we just had this exchange

i dont think hurley is moving to a 4/1 to feature AJ he's gonna be our 4th option on offense at best

You're right. And its not my job on the line. I will enjoy the season either way and make money betting accordingly. But wouldn't be betting that scenario, lol. Yikes. It can work in the BE, but can get crushed in the big leagues.

 

[navery12]

What are the chances you gave the same type of snide remark about Johnson and Diggins last year? I wouldn't be surprised, seems like your style. The unknowns will always save us, and round and round we go, so smart.

You're in rare form tonight. Managing to be snarky while being completely wrong in every post

 

[auror]

What are the chances you gave the same type of snide remark about Johnson and Diggins last year? I wouldn't be surprised, seems like your style. The unknowns will always save us, and round and round we go, so smart.

You're advocating bringing someone random in as a transfer who would also be an unknown (at least insofar as team chemistry and possibly play at the high major level is considered) to save us lol.

My remark was snide because we literally have 2 guys who were recruited with exactly the skillsets and pedigrees you are looking for and they've been in the program since last year now. It's their time. To quote Al Maguire, "The best thing about freshmen is that they become sophomores." Karaban will still technically be a freshman, but from reports he seems to be less raw than most (certainly less raw than Johnson last year) and had that early arrival to get him up to speed quicker (Akok was ready to go right from the jump). I do expect Johnson and Karaban to be B-level stretch 4 types, which is exactly what you were asking for. I don't expect either to be a star, but solidly in the rotation.

These are your portal options for people that are at least 6'8 that attempt a decent number of 3s and hit at least 35%:

Player	Team	3PA/100	3PT	3PT%
Felipe Haase	Mercer	9.6	69-169	.408
Emmanuel Akot	Boise St	8.8	52-137	.380
Michael Henn	Denver	6.9	35-90	.389

Haase is intriguing but more of a 5. Akot is basically Jackson and I don't trust his shooting (but he is a beast defensively). Henn isn't good enough. But if you bring in somebody, you're losing at least one of Karaban or Johnson at the end of the year. I don't think any of those guys are putting us over the top enough to mortgage the future.

As to Johnson/Diggins last year... Before the season I projected:

PG - Cole (30), Gaffney (10)
W1 - Hawkins (20), Jackson (10), Gaffney (10)
W2 - Martin (20), Jackson (10), Polley (10)
F - Whaley (10), Akok (10), Johnson (10), Polley (10)
C - Sanogo (25), Whaley (15)

Floyd, Diggins, Springs with spot minutes/red shrting.

Johnson 10 minutes as the 3rd option at the 4 and Diggins spot minutes.

 

[lange10]

“When it’s all said and done we are going to have a deep rotation,” he said. “We’re going to play the nine guys I like to play.

We're 8 deep in the rotation right now (assuming Clingan is a rotational piece and Richie is not). One more significant piece to be added. Likeliest person I'd assume is Castle via reclass.

Really curious what type of player we could bring aboard with the extra scholarships as our 5th guard to give us spot minutes when needed.

 

[BlueMAB]

Believe me, I hope they're up for it, and it'd be great if they were. I'm just worried about revolving a 4 out shooting offense around a "star" who can't shoot nor is a PF.

I will give Hurley credit, it takes huge balls to revolve a 4 out around a star who can't shoot or dribble or D bigs. That's amazing! Lets do it! Challenge accepted!

I'm going to make a lot of money off our ranking next year. Although Newton and Alleyne have me concerned. They're legit with Sanogo.

Pretty confident posts for someone who doesn't even understand what he's criticizing.

 

[TheChamps990411]

Meh! The offense isnt the issue its the players in that offense. Doesnt matter what you play if guys cant shoot. I have little faith in Ajax in this offense unless there is enough good shooting around him to open up lanes and he drives agressively to the basket instead of making a needless pass absolutely killing the offensive rhythm.