Hurley on four-out, one-in offense

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UConn men’s basketball coach Dan Hurley believes new four-out, one-in offensive system will pay dividends

UConn men’s basketball coach Dan Hurley wants to go back to his roots next season with the implementation of the four-out, one-in motion offense. Hurley ran the offense, which places four pla…

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Hurley wants to take advantage of the spacing the four-out, one-in motion offense can provide.

“The biggest advantage is the spacing that you can play in on the offense end,” he said. “Obviously, we are not playing small perimeter players or small guards. You are talking about 6-foot-4, 6-foot-6, 6-foot-5 and 6-foot-7 types of players. The switchability on defense and 1-4 at times. With guys like Alex Karaban and Samson Johnson have the agility to do that as well. It’s about trying to put better spacing around some outstanding centers we have in Adama and Donovan Clingan.”

 

[tykurez]

Hurley’s defensive schemes, particularly the switching, are his strength. The added size is going to be a huge problem for other teams — there were times last year where the switching was on another level. Even with the undersized Cole, they often ran a positionless man-to-man defense and it created a ton of havoc.

As far as the last quote, much of it depends on how much improvement he can make on offense. The four-out, one-in is only going to work if this team can shoot next year.

“I had some great teams in Rhode Island that could come at with you with so many perimeter weapons, but what I didn’t have on those teams was dominant centers,” he said. “I feel like I’m going to have my best team next season.”

 

[HuskyFich]

 

[storrsroars]

 

[UCDaveD]

 

[DaveHuskiesFan]

You need to have great passing big man to play a 4 out offense for when the defense collapses on them in the post.

We saw Adama improve and have flashes last season and Clingan is supposed to be a + passer. Hopefully it works out.

 

[navery12]

 

[Phoenixhusky]

You need to have great passing big man to play a 4 out offense for when the defense collapses on them in the post.

We saw Adama improve and have flashes last season and Clingan is supposed to be a + passer. Hopefully it works out.

Clingan is actually an above average passer out of the 5 spot.

 

[RayIsTheGOAT]

It's so encouraging that Hurley recognized exactly what we need- bigger more athletic guards/wings who can switch on D AND shoot. And he's really executing on that... still more work to do for roster construction.

Hurley's going to coach up this team to become a defensive monster I feel, with Jackson at the heart of it. If Hawkins takes that next step we are all expecting... watch out. Oh, and there will be more shooters and scorers on the floor with Newton, Alleyne and Karaban.

 

[NotADime89]

 

[UCbcm]

Hurley got us to this point running an offense that isn't his go-to. Excited to see where we get now that he has the pieces to make it work.

 

[WhereistheDove?]

 

[Tenspro2002]

Clingan is actually an above average passer out of the 5 spot.

Yes, the concern with Clingan on offense isn't that he can't pass. It's that he isn't a credible enough threat on his own to make his passing a weapon.

 

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Adama needs to work on his ability to pass out the post all off-season. He’s a tremendous scorer and post player. He needs to learn patience and decision making at this point. Our offense will be highly dangerous with that.

 

[aburks41]

 

[August_West]

Yes, the concern with Clingan on offense isn't that he can't pass. It's that he isn't a credible enough threat on his own to make his passing a weapon.

I would say his size alone makes him a credible threat. If he is getting deep paint touches it will be very, very difficult for teams to leave a single player on him even if his game isn't so refined yet, he is just that big. He has 6 inches on Sanogo. minimum. That is a severe height advantage against most College hoops 5's. I am excited to see him on the floor.

 

[CL82]

Yes, the concern with Clingan on offense isn't that he can't pass. It's that he isn't a credible enough threat on his own to make his passing a weapon.

Leave him alone underneath and he’ll dunk.

 

[aburks41]

I would say his size alone makes him a credible threat. If he is getting deep paint touches it will be very, very difficult for teams to leave a single player on him even if his game isn't so refined yet, he is just that big. He has 6 inches on Sanogo. minimum. That is a severe height advantage against most College hoops 5's. I am excited to see him on the floor.

Yeah I hope Clingan isn't just like Ike Obiagu from Seton Hall. That dude was just a 7'2" body with literally zero basketball skills. Clingan seems like he has a decent shooting touch and great passing. He'll be a tough guy to defend 1v1

 

[CL82]

Yeah I hope Clingan isn't just like Ike Obiagu from Seton Hall. That dude was just a 7'2" body with literally zero basketball skills. Clingan seems like he has a decent shooting touch and great passing. He'll be a tough guy to defend 1v1

He has decent foot work as well. The question is how will he adjust to the increased physicality of the college game.

 

[gtcam]

Not a fan of this offense but we will see. I'd rather see 2 bigger guys underneath who can score, pass out and grab rebounds. That way IF you had 3 exterior sharp shooters who can hit at a regular clip the inside game would open better looks for them because when you are open the hoop looks that much bigger. You need to drag the opponents two biggest defenders under the hoop rather than in the face of your jump shooters. Not saying that the 4/1 cant work but you need the right folks with discipline, composure and are willing to run/cut. 4/1 offense in the half court can't be stagnant

 

[BlueMAB]

Not a fan of this offense but we will see. I'd rather see 2 bigger guys underneath who can score, pass out and grab rebounds. That way IF you had 3 exterior sharp shooters who can hit at a regular clip the inside game would open better looks for them because when you are open the hoop looks that much bigger. You need to drag the opponents two biggest defenders under the hoop rather than in the face of your jump shooters. Not saying that the 4/1 cant work but you need the right folks with discipline, composure and are willing to run/cut. 4/1 offense in the half court can't be stagnant

With all due respect, I don't believe you understand the game of basketball. You definitely don't understand floor spacing.

 

[nomar]

 

[HuskyHawk]

He has decent foot work as well. The question is how will he adjust to the increased physicality of the college game.

I'm not worried about his offense. I'm worried about his defense. I would expect most teams to front him and deny the entry pass. So he will probably end up coming out to the foul line to get touches. It's why he needs to be able to hit that midrange J and why we need to run backdoor cutters for him to pass to.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Leave him alone underneath and he’ll dunk.

Can he teach Adama to dunk?

 

[Kenny11]

Most offenses are 4 out 1 in. You don’t want two guys in the paint. Maybe one guy on the baseline. I think it’s just a better way of saying we are going to have better spacing…which is nice.

 

[Husky68]

Not really sure what 4 out and 1 in means for next year vs. offensive scheme this past year. My view of 2021-22 team was UConn played 4 out and 1 in (why I am not sure I'm getting what has changed) with the problem Whaley and Jackson were not shooting or driving threats. Change out Cole, Martin and Whaley for the two new guys plus Hawkins and these new three starters will be part of the "out" group, but to me so were the three guys they are replacing.

I didn't consider AS and Whaley as part of a "two" bigs on offense scheme as Whaley spent lot of time outside during offensive sets (crashing boards after shots and few cuts to basket, but not many, hardly ever posting up when AS was in the game).

Now if UConn is saying ran the 4 out and 1 in last year without the right players for that offense, I get it, if it's some type of dramatic change, don't see it.

 

[aburks41]

Not really sure what 4 out and 1 in means for next year vs. offensive scheme this past year. My view of 2021-22 team was UConn played 4 out and 1 in (why I am not sure I'm getting what has changed) with the problem Whaley and Jackson were not shooting or driving threats. Change out Cole, Martin and Whaley for the two new guys plus Hawkins and these new three starters will be part of the "out" group, but to me so were the three guys they are replacing.

I didn't consider AS and Whaley as part of a "two" bigs on offense scheme as Whaley spent lot of time outside during offensive sets (crashing boards after shots and few cuts to basket, but not many, hardly ever posting up when AS was in the game).

Now if UConn is saying ran the 4 out and 1 in last year without the right players for that offense, I get it, if it's some type of dramatic change, don't see it.

The biggest change we're going to see is keeping the defenses honest. Last year they all packed the paint which limited driving lanes and caused Sanogo to be double teams automatically. Whaley (and really Jackson but I think he'll improve a ton) couldn't drive and couldn't shoot. So yes, they technically were a "4 out" offense, 2 of the 4 guys outside were liabilities, not threats. That will change this season.

Keeping defenses honest opens up driving lanes and lets Sanogo dominate inside on 1v1 opportunities all game long.

 

[Palatine]

Nice that Dan Hurley thinks that Donovan is an "outstanding center."

 

[HuskyHawk]

Not really sure what 4 out and 1 in means for next year vs. offensive scheme this past year. My view of 2021-22 team was UConn played 4 out and 1 in (why I am not sure I'm getting what has changed) with the problem Whaley and Jackson were not shooting or driving threats. Change out Cole, Martin and Whaley for the two new guys plus Hawkins and these new three starters will be part of the "out" group, but to me so were the three guys they are replacing.

I didn't consider AS and Whaley as part of a "two" bigs on offense scheme as Whaley spent lot of time outside during offensive sets (crashing boards after shots and few cuts to basket, but not many, hardly ever posting up when AS was in the game).

Now if UConn is saying ran the 4 out and 1 in last year without the right players for that offense, I get it, if it's some type of dramatic change, don't see it.

UConn shouldn't have run the 4 out offense last year. At least not with that starting lineup. I'm fine with the offense, it makes sense, but if you are playing Whaley, he would have been more effective and created more space in the 3 feet around Adama, if he was as weak side post player. I think Dan thought he could shoot enough that people would guard him outside, and some teams did. McDermott sure didn't. It was a problem.

 

[Hungryhusky99]

The biggest change we're going to see is keeping the defenses honest. Last year they all packed the paint which limited driving lanes and caused Sanogo to be double teams automatically. Whaley (and really Jackson but I think he'll improve a ton) couldn't drive and couldn't shoot. So yes, they technically were a "4 out" offense, 2 of the 4 guys outside were liabilities, not threats. That will change this season.

Keeping defenses honest opens up driving lanes and lets Sanogo dominate inside on 1v1 opportunities all game long.

4 out isn't going to stop him from being doubled. Teams will still double until he can prove he can consistently make the right pass out.