How revenue sharing is affecting the schedule

[CTBballfan243]

While true the parents aren't paying tuition, assuming they have the funds to cover such a trip isn't fair. For all we know, without the scholarship some of these players may not have been able to afford going to university.

I didn’t say they had to go on these trips. Obviously, if the parents couldn’t afford to pay for such a trip then they just wouldn’t go.

 

[visitingcock]

The tournament in Florida paid each team a million dollars to participate. It would be at all surprising for UConn to be one of the four teams next year.

As others have pointed out and Boreifs has conceded, he was talking about the tournament in Las Vegas. That is the Players Era Tournament. It paid an average of 1 million dollars to each of the four teams Texas, SCar, UCLA, and Duke. The money is paid to the schools for distribution to the players as third party NIL - NOT as revenue sharing. Sounds fishy to me but the NCAA hasn’t peeped a word about it and the men’s distributions were paid out last year when the tournament began for men.

The Great interweb says that the Players Era tournament wanted UConn rather than Duke but Geno turned down the offer. Why? I don’t know but he and the UConn admin may question whether the NCAA will step in and declare the proceeds as revenue sharing rather than third party pay.

Why does it matter whether it is or revenue sharing rather than third party pay? Because the House Settlement put a cap of 20.5 million on NIL that can be paid as Revenue Sharing. That’s for ALL sports, not for any one sport.

Greedy football players and prospects would eat up that 20.5 million in a heartbeat if they could. Word is that the SEC has told its members that at least 5% of that money must be allotted to WBB. UGA has made that percentage official and public. A FOIA suit is making SCar reveal that info soon. Anyway, the 5% minimum means that each SEC wbb program will spend about 1 million dollars per year on NIL. Word is that the Big Ten schools are all contemplating the same 5 Percent Minimum. For Scar’s ten player roster that means each player can be paid an average of $100,000 per year as revenue sharing. Money classified as third party NIL such as the Players Era tournament proceeds adds another $100,000 per player to SCar’s average player compensation.

Again I will repeat the Interweb rumor that UConn was offered a spot in the Players Era tournament. It makes sense that they would have been offered because that would have been a repeat of last years Final Four. Duke, as an Elite 8 participant, would have been the logical replacement.

Are other early season tournaments eyeing the Players Era NIL scheme and planning to offer money as NIL? I think so as evidenced by the recently announced plans for UConn and SCar to play in early season tournaments the next two years.

I will end by saying that UConn is in a different boat than UCLA, Texas and SCar. Those P-2 members clearly have 20.5 million in revenue available from the conference TV contracts alone. Does UConn? I doubt it. But UConn ( and Gonzaga?) can choose to pay more than 5% of its revenue to wbb because it generates more income from wbb than football.

It’s a new world and there’s gonna be lot of new developments like: Title IX litigation, NCAA interpretation and regulations based on House, cheaters, other schemes to circumvent the 20.5 million cap , etc

 

[freshler40]

While the trips may have seemed like an extravagance, they did allow a team to play other highly ranked teams early in the season. In the end, it's fewer games against top opponents. On the other hand, there's always the argument that playing top quality competition gets you ready for the tournament. Even Geno has said, roughly, "If you're good enough, you're good enough." I do find it interesting though, that the cost of running a program has risen so astronomically due to all the money needed to pay athletes that seams are starting to split. College football is in the process of turning itself into a joke with all the coaching and player swapping. Can you be a real supporter of a program when you can;t even follow who your coach is or will be? We're really spoiled.

Hard to not drift away from Div 1 sports these days. The sport and loyalty to programs seems diminished. Div 11 and 111 may take some of the shine off of the top college sports. It was recently announced that a second Div 1 program as gone Div 111 similar to the U of Hartford decision of several years ago.

 

[HopJim]

I saw this article and I thought Geno is sending two messages. The first is the reality of the situation and the second was an invitation to a sponsor or wealthy fan to pay for a trip in the future.

Not sure if this was an invitation or a warning. UConn fans need to understand there will be more and more requests to donate in various ways.

 

[cancontent]

I didn’t say they had to go on these trips. Obviously, if the parents couldn’t afford to pay for such a trip then they just wouldn’t go.

Parents may not be able to afford paying for their daughter's portion is my point. Not their ability to travel with the team to watch their child play.

And if they can't travel, how does this help with their overall development and ability to bond with the team? That's a key benefit for these athletes in addition to getting a chance to go abroad.

 

[visitingcock]

Hard to not drift away from Div 1 sports these days. The sport and loyalty to programs seems diminished. Div 11 and 111 may take some of the shine off of the top college sports. It was recently announced that a second Div 1 program as gone Div 111 similar to the U of Hartford decision of several years ago.

I can think of several CONFERENCES that need to switch to DII.

 

[huskyd]

This is UConn women's basketball. Nothing outside of the Top 10 should be a challenging game.

There are outside factors like the JuJu injury, South Carolina (correctly) refusing a February matchup, ND falling off the face of the earth, and Tennessee continuing to not perform to their previous standards -- but there is not one marquee matchup on the UConn schedule to draw outside interest this season (Michigan is too new).

The UConn men aren't playing in the million dollar tournaments because they cannot afford the pay cut from the money they make off their one-off games at MSG and the TD Garden or big home-and-home arrangements.

The women need to try to find a way to generate similar income streams (again -- it would help big names like ND or Tennessee would return to a higher level of competitiveness, USC will return to health, South Carolina comes back in an event setting next season) -- but the OOC should be close to nothing but top teams. It should be a gauntlet if they want to generate revenue and interest that is.

The TV ratings on the men's side (in general) are apparently doing better this season than any year in this century. Teams are generating income and interest in their sport by having an increased level of top names playing each other instead of cupcakes.

It likely isn't there yet -- but I want to see the same on the women's side. Instead, I am pretty much bored with the team already as yet another blowout of an overmatched team has grown tiresome after 30 years of being spoiled by their level of play. And I am a fan already, how do they generate new interest under these conditions?

Many good thoughts here. What really appeals and what I wrote about a few days ago was for UConn to be playing more better teams. We have a great product, but it doesn't help to waste (entertainment) time playing weaker teams. There is probably less drop off in attendance when the Huskies go up against a predictably poor group; there, is, however, some drop off. UConn sells and so does competition.
I really sympathize with ec33's boredom. During today's fiasco with DePaul, I was screaming that I waited all week to see this ugliness.
Don't blame the Blue Devils; they're doing what they're supposed to be doing as are we. But why put everyone through this hideous charade? This was not a game; it was an execution.
We must escape from the Big Least if there's any way to do so. Is there? And the dreaded question: can we afford to?

 

[Dogdude]

Many good thoughts here. What really appeals and what I wrote about a few days ago was for UConn to be playing more better teams. We have a great product, but it doesn't help to waste (entertainment) time playing weaker teams. There is probably less drop off in attendance when the Huskies go up against a predictably poor group; there, is, however, some drop off. UConn sells and so does competition.
I really sympathize with ec33's boredom. During today's fiasco with DePaul, I was screaming that I waited all week to see this ugliness.
Don't blame the Blue Devils; they're doing what they're supposed to be doing as are we. But why put everyone through this hideous charade? This was not a game; it was an execution.
We must escape from the Big Least if there's any way to do so. Is there? And the dreaded question: can we afford to?

Spot on. And this is why all this is coming to a head...as Visitingcock said above, there are whole conferences that should be playing D3. Forget D2. Skip all the way down to no scholarships and mostly club sports, save the money spent on athletics and use it for actual educational purposes. This wouldn't be the worst thing in the world, and would allow niche sports the same status as the big sports. Smaller colleges, like Fort Lewis have a football team that's pretty lame, but cycling is a club sport and they're almost always collegiate champions at all levels. Our daughter, when in college, was at a big regional invitational track meet, and one girl from MIT was cleaning up against the big names.

D2 or D3 isn't a death knell for sports at these colleges, it simply allows the college to save the dough and quit pretending to being competitive. There's no shame in being realistic and allowing sports to be fun, which is really what 99% of the athletes should be using them for, and getting off the expense-filled roller coaster.

 

[Skeets]

Not sure if this was an invitation or a warning. UConn fans need to understand there will be more and more requests to donate in various ways.

You know the whole world is changing. A couple of decades ago (OK, maybe 3 or 4) if you had 2 beers the house would give you 1. When's the last time you got a beer on the house? Liability I suppose...

Forget first night. There will be no free autographs. Time keeps on moving into the future... (sounds like a song)