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You guys might want to find out who your boy Burton has decided will be the next coach... then work from there.
 
weyuo said:
You guys might want to find out who your boy Burton has decided will be the next coach... then work from there.
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weyuo said:
Maybe...probably a anti-cynical pill. I really do need one of those.
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This is where you and I differ. My cynicism ended Monday morning, apparently that is when yours began.
 
ShakyTheMohel said:
Ya know...when I read the recommendation about TOB, I quickly discarded the idea and moved on. I mean seriously....we just got rid of an older coach on the decline who was fired from his previous job and we are going to bring in another fossil? Not gonna happen.

But..it made me think about Jeff Jagodzinski. Remember the big splash he made at BC after TOB left? He was a good recruiter...ran an interesting offense and was the darling of the head coaching world. So I did a wiki look up...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski

What an odd career. We all know what happened at BC..getting fired after interviewing for a job with the Jets. You probably know that he was fired as OC in training camp by the Bucs in 2009 before the season started (because he couldn't communicate plays in a timely manner?)...but in January 2011, he was replaced as head coach of UFL team Omaha Nighthawks...after one season..by the CEO from TD Ameritrade, Joe Moglia? Then he was the wide receivers coach at Ave Maria University? What is that?

Now he is the OC at Georgia State University. No idea how he is doing...nor am I saying UConn should look at him...just thought his career path was interesting.
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Just made me think what ever happened to Mich Bounoguoro? Spelling off I'm sure but he was in the running for Perno's job. We did well choosing that one. We should look for a similer type personality for our next football coach that we found in JC. Maybe it's TJ. We'll see. We definitely need a fighter and we didn't have that.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
If it's that or a MAC coach I'm taking the guy with Big East and NFL experience. And before you say that's Coach P too, the difference between the two situations has parallels by couldn't be more different.
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The difference I see between the two is that P was far more successful at Syracuse then Schiano was at Rutgers and P's NFL experience didn't go down in flames the way Schiano's is about to. Schiano is a dirty rotten scoundrel and a low basketball IQ coach. I was never impressed with what he did at Rutgers and they have improved without him.

An emphatic no way in hell to Schiano. Don't let Tampa Bay's dumb ass mistake turn into ours.
 
metsfan2323 said:
The difference I see between the two is that P was far more successful at Syracuse then Schiano was at Rutgers and P's NFL experience didn't go down in flames the way Schiano's is about to. Schiano is a dirty rotten scoundrel and a low basketball IQ coach. I was never impressed with what he did at Rutgers and they have improved without him.

An emphatic no way in hell to Schiano.
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You were never impressed with what Schiano did at Rutgers?

He only took one of the worst football programs in America and turned around their culture and made them relevant in NJ and NYC.

I'm just curious as to everyone what thinks we're getting here?

Schiano is a name, still young and likely still would have good recruiting relationships with NJ programs.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Schiano is a name,
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I get it now, you want a name, I want a coach. Right now Schiano's name is mud.

No I was never impressed with Schiano, I thought he was a terrible game day coach and most of his wins were against lousy competition.

BTW Schiano had an awful 8-13 conference record his last three years at Rutgers. His overall conference record at Rutgers 28-48. Only at Rutgers is 28 - 48 considered a success.
 
huskymedic said:
No . Especially when there is already a thread named "Next Head Coach"!

I say we pin one and go from there because it's not going away for a few months.
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yeah im definetly not on here 24/7 nor do I read every page. So I definetly wouldn't have known if it was posted 1,004,885,000 times. This site sucks. To many people talk way to much crap. And jump on to many people way to fast. Ive talked to plenty of boneyarders at games and they all say the same thing "to many people in there are to negative or talk to much crap that they don't bother to post." Wish the internet tough guys would stop being just that. Or be an internet tough guy in person not behind a keyboard in your moms basement.
 
Buffett10 said:
yeah im definetly not on here 24/7 nor do I read every page. So I definetly wouldn't have known if it was posted 1,004,885,000 times. This site sucks. To many people talk way to much crap. And jump on to many people way to fast. Ive talked to plenty of boneyarders at games and they all say the same thing "to many people in there are to negative or talk to much crap that they don't bother to post." Wish the internet tough guys would stop being just that. Or be an internet tough guy in person not behind a keyboard in your moms basement.
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There has certainly been a cloud of negativity on the Football board over last year or so (Since I joined) and I assume is was there for about 18 month prior to that, with pockets of mild optimism inter-disbursed (I.e. National signing day).

No that the clouds have sort of cleared, I'd expect the Boneyard to be marginally cheerier.
 
ConnHuskBask said:
We deserved that Fiesta Bowl and I refuse to apologize for playing in a game we earned.

The simple rebuttal to that is when did we ever finished ranked?

Rutgers and UConn football are way more similar than either fan base can bring themselves to admit. We both have had some success (UConn 2 BE Titles / Rutgers 1 BE Title, final ranking of 12), we've both had some awful seasons and unfortunately they've beat us head to head a lot.

For whatever reason, Rutgers has always had more hype around the program, possibly due to Schiano, proximity to NYC, style of play, whereas at UConn we've just been a consistent, hard nose program.

None of that changes the fact they were invited to BIG because of their states population, but ifwe hire the guy that took them to this perception I think it better positions UConn to succeed and get out of the AAC.

Or people can be closed minded CT idiots and simply say Rutgers sucks, NJ smells LOL!
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We finished 25th in 2007 in the BCS rankings. Rutgers highest ranking 16 in 2006. When did Rutgers ever finish anywhere that matters? Honestly... and yet their recruting classes were, on paper far and away better year in and year out. Schiano always has been overrated. He took a dumpster fire and managed to put it out... *slow clap*
 
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businesslawyer said:
Not without some negatives, but I think you would have to look at that seriously. His record is very good. He needs a good Blaney type, but you can get that.
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His record is NOT very good! He has coached 76 Big East games and only won 28!
 
Buffett10 said:
Greg Schiano, I know he is like public enemy #1. I just read a story that hes probably getting fired from the Bucs and he would definetly be open to coming back to college. What the guy did for Rutgers was pretty damn good. He took a terrible team and started recruiting the hell out of Rutgers. Brought them in great class after great class. He develops players. I Would be all for it. If he loses hiss jack ass ways of trying to hurt people or just being the he is. But the guy can recruit and he can definetly coach on the college level. The article I read made it seem like he would definetly love to come back to the Northeast to. Or how about Eric "Mangenius" Mangini?
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I don't want Mangini... Schiano neither, BUT.... he can recruit his tail off.. Question is, would he take the UCONN job if offered?
 
Husky25 said:
No that the clouds have sort of cleared, I'd expect the Boneyard to be marginally cheerier.
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Don't set your expectations too high. If there's a bar, the boneyard finds a way to lower it. There's always plenty to complain about.
 
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MattMang23 said:
Don't set your expectations too high. If there's a bar, the boneyard finds a way to lower it. There's always plenty to complain about.
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I am trying against all odd to be a more pleasant and agreeable person.

Probably spend too much time in the Cesspool though.
 
Husky25 said:
I am trying against all odd to be a more pleasant and agreeable person.

Probably spend too much time in the Cesspool though.
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I don't go near it. Most people already probably think I'm an idiot... I don't need to go out of my way to confirm it. ;)
 
ConnHuskBask said:
Not sure I understand all the Schiano hate. His rebuilding job at Rutgers was pretty damn impressive, the players seem to love him and the guy can recruit in NJ which is one of the most talent rich states.
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Recruiting in NJ for Rutgers is different than recruiting in NJ for UConn. And he had to bring in some assistants noted for their recruiting prowess before Rutgers really took off.

If he eagerly pursues the UConn job, then I consider him. But if he is reluctant, I wouldn't pursue him. He knows what the UConn job is. We can't have a coach who's not ten toes in. That's the biggest factor for me, finding a young coach who is really excited about building up the football program and wants it to reach the stature of the basketball program, wants a legacy of building a program.
 
IMind said:
We finished 25th in 2007 in the BCS rankings. Rutgers highest ranking 16 in 2006. When did Rutgers ever finish anywhere that matters? Honestly... and yet their recruting classes were, on paper far and away better year in and year out. Schiano always has been overrated. He took a dumpster fire and managed to put it out... *slow clap*
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In 2006 after the end of the season Rutgers was ranked 12th.
UConn has never completed the bowl season ranked ( almost positive).

I just think a lot of the hate is irrational here.
 
ktuck911 said:
I don't want Mangini... Schiano neither, BUT.... he can recruit his tail off.. Question is, would he take the UCONN job if offered?
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Alright then we may need a recruiting coordinator. Maybe when the Bucs fire his he will look into a double dipping job as he lives off of his NFL buyout. Other than that no way, from what I've read he sounds like a younger version of GDL
 
FfldCntyFan said:
This is where you and I differ. My cynicism ended Monday morning, apparently that is when yours began.
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No...wrong again. I was born and raised in CT. It's in your blood from day 1 but...... to get back on topic, does or can Schiano fill enough of these criteria to be a serious candidate:
  • Because CT is such a tiny state the recruiting pool is tiny also, can he talk 3...4....5 star kids from outside CT to come to UConn? Can anyone at this point?
  • How is his repertoire with CT high school coaches? Other New England, NY high school coaches? Having them in your pocket is better than not having them. Or does it matter? How much legit D-1 talent is actually in New England?
  • Will he get a pass from donors, alum and fans? If initially yes are they gonna give him more than a year or will another 5-7 or 6-6 season in 2014 put him in the dog house faster than Coach P?
  • Would he be able to relate to the kids still in the program or already verbally committed or will there be a mass exodus?
  • Is this guy gonna butt heads right off with admissions? With faculty? What is his track record working with his peers at the school?
  • Is this guy a salesman? Is he going to be able to sell UCONN to CT residents(especially Fairfield County) to build a bigger fan base? Can he enlist the media to aid in selling UConn football to the nation? Lets face it the national media has not been UConn friendly as of late. Can Schiano or anyone for that matter get the media in their corner? If perception is key whoever comes in is going to have to be able to change the perception most of the nation has towards UConn football.
  • How long can you count on this guy to realistically stick around if he is successful up here? If he could turn UConn around quickly he'd be a hot product, hell, anyone would if they could get this program in contention for a top 25 ranking soon. As soon as Edsall became a relatively hot commodity he bolted. Will Schiano?
Over all reaction even in this forum it's almost split 50/50 about the guy. Personally I'd like to see what Weist does for
the rest of this season and possibly add his name to the list of candidates. Whoever comes next is gonna have to hit a
home run with the fans, the student athletes, recruits and the media pretty much right away cause another year or two
of losing seasons and no bowl might just put the final coffin nail in any Div 1 football in CT. Who ever it is I hope they are named BEFORE New Years Day.
 
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ConnHuskBask said:
In 2006 after the end of the season Rutgers was ranked 12th.
UConn has never completed the bowl season ranked ( almost positive).

I just think a lot of the hate is irrational here.
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UConn 25th final 2007 BCS rankings: http://secure.footballfoundation.org/pdf/BCS07/NFF.PIAD.120207s.pdf

Rutgers 16th final 2006 BCS rankings: http://secure.footballfoundation.org/pdf/bcs06/120306s.pdf

Rutgers did finish 12th in the AP that year... which will get you a nice t-shirt if you go to Syracuse.
 
IMind said:
UConn 25th final 2007 BCS rankings: http://secure.footballfoundation.org/pdf/BCS07/NFF.PIAD.120207s.pdf

Rutgers 16th final 2006 BCS rankings: http://secure.footballfoundation.org/pdf/bcs06/120306s.pdf

Rutgers did finish 12th in the AP that year... which will get you a nice t-shirt if you go to Syracuse.
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So, again as I said, UConn has never completed the bowl season ranked as they lost to Wake Forest in Charlotte.

Rutgers finished 12th after beating Kansas State in the Texas Bowl.

Again, the programs are very similar but finishing 12th is pretty good as is the Fiesta Bowl appearance.

The difference being that in 2006 the Big East was one of the best leagues in America with Rutgers, West Virginia and Louisville. In 2011...not as much.
 
jackl said:
Alright then we may need a recruiting coordinator. Maybe when the Bucs fire his he will look into a double dipping job as he lives off of his NFL buyout. Other than that no way, from what I've read he sounds like a younger version of GDL
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I guess I forgot to add that I hope that TJ Weist hits a Home Run out of The Rent or at least a 60 yard field goal with plenty to spare. He seems like so far he talks the talk lets just hope he walks the walk. Go Huskies!!!!!!!!!
I know there are a lot of issues to clean up as he moves forward, I hope he can pull them out of the ditch that this bus was driven into.
 
huskyblooz said:
His record is NOT very good! He has coached 76 Big East games and only won 28!
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To me, that's a perfect example of how silly it is to take a college record and think you don't have to look at it, as if it were an NFL record. The Rutgers team he inherited was the long time doormat of eastern college football. Of course his record sucked -- it takes time -- a good deal of time -- to really move a college program up a few levels. He accomplished that.

That's as silly as using Edsall's record his first few years of coaching I-A football of indicative of anything other than the difficulties of the challenge he faced.
 
businesslawyer said:
To me, that's a perfect example of how silly it is to take a college record and think you don't have to look at it, as if it were an NFL record. The Rutgers team he inherited was the long time doormat of eastern college football. Of course his record sucked -- it takes time -- a good deal of time -- to really move a college program up a few levels. He accomplished that.

That's as silly as using Edsall's record his first few years of coaching I-A football of indicative of anything other than the difficulties of the challenge he faced.
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8-13 conference record his last three years and a terrible sideline coach, also the master of the cupcake schedule to pad his win loss record, and his win loss record still stinks. Rutgers is doing better without him and now he is creating havoc at his current job. He would steal our money and further torch the program then laugh at us on the way out.

Zero conference championships with better recruits than we had and he won't be able to recruit as well in CT, stuck in the AAC when Rutgers is in the B1G, not to mention the fact that he is slimy.

We are all assuming he will be available because we all think he will be fired for being an asswipe who alienated his current team, and you would support this guy? Do you sell helicopters on the side?
 
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