how do you feel about this possible coach?

[huskymedic]

Anyone else feel like starting a thread about a possible coach that hasn't been mentioned 4,257 times in other threads?

No . Especially when there is already a thread named "Next Head Coach"!

I say we pin one and go from there because it's not going away for a few months.

 

[ConnHuskBask]

Admittedly much of my Schiano hate is knee-jerk instinctive Rutgers hate. He could recruit, that much is true. But mostly I don't think that Rutgers was ever really as good/consistent as they believe themselves to be. I'd argue that he underachieved at times with quality players.

Mike, I agree with you as well here. As was said previously, Rutgers had a fair amount of wtf losses, but at their peak, they reached higher highs than UCONN. Which I think speaks to some underachieving but also highlights the fact that they did have top shelf talent throughout the years.

 

[metsfan2323]

Schiano did a few things VERY well:

1. 
   [ ]Transformed a culture of losing
   [ ]Energized a fanbase
   [ ]Brought in great recruits

We need all of those things.

Sorry but UCONN has a culture of winning and our fanbase is energized.

I'm pretty sure Rutgers is only slightly better than we are when it comes to putting players in the NFL.

A big no to Schiano.

 

[BHusky]

The Big Ten invite came because of proximity to the largest media market on the planet, not the success of the football team. You just mentioned all reason to NOT give Coach Schiano a look.

How he is viewed (, bad gameday coach)
Getting [but not coaching up] top tier recruits
Not living up to hype
success [at Rutgers] was with some smoke and mirrors

Have you been following conference realignment.? It is 100% based on football and football networks. NYC already has the B10 network, so the idea is to draw more attention and viewership to the network which in turn creates profit through advertising and subscription dollars from cable companies. Do you think the B10 takes Rutgers if they hadn't had success with Schaino? No football success and no fans equals no B10 invite because Rutgers literally has no other athletic program to hang its hat on. Perception is reality with conference realinement and the perception is that Rutgers was/is the better program.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Have you been following conference realignment.? It is 100% based on football and football networks. NYC already has the B10 network, so the idea is to draw more attention and viewership to the network which in turn creates profit through advertising and subscription dollars from cable companies. Do you think the B10 takes Rutgers if they hadn't had success with Schaino? No football success and no fans equals no B10 invite because Rutgers literally has no other athletic program to hang its hat on. Perception is reality with conference realinement and the perception is that Rutgers was/is the better program.

You just proved his point about geography.

 

[babysheep]

Ray Rice built RU's program...not Schiano

 

[SubbaBub]

Very simply - NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quoting because I can't like it twice. I even waited 21 seconds to do it.

 

[HomeKing93]

I don't want him, but he wouldn't come here anyway. To the best of my knowledge, we don't have a helicopter.

 

[UConnTim]

I started to sweat when I mentioned Tom O'Brien in a previous thread. Looks like I might be in the clear now.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I started to sweat when I mentioned Tom O'Brien in a previous thread. Looks like I might be in the clear now.

Tom O'Brien? Rough start on the Boneyard.

 

[ShakyTheMohel]

Tom O'Brien? Rough start on the Boneyard.

Ya know...when I read the recommendation about TOB, I quickly discarded the idea and moved on. I mean seriously....we just got rid of an older coach on the decline who was fired from his previous job and we are going to bring in another fossil? Not gonna happen.

But..it made me think about Jeff Jagodzinski. Remember the big splash he made at BC after TOB left? He was a good recruiter...ran an interesting offense and was the darling of the head coaching world. So I did a wiki look up...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski

What an odd career. We all know what happened at BC..getting fired after interviewing for a job with the Jets. You probably know that he was fired as OC in training camp by the Bucs in 2009 before the season started (because he couldn't communicate plays in a timely manner?)...but in January 2011, he was replaced as head coach of UFL team Omaha Nighthawks...after one season..by the CEO from TD Ameritrade, Joe Moglia? Then he was the wide receivers coach at Ave Maria University? What is that?

Now he is the OC at Georgia State University. No idea how he is doing...nor am I saying UConn should look at him...just thought his career path was interesting.

 

[kibblesnbits]

Greg Schiano, I know he is like public enemy #1. I just read a story that hes probably getting fired from the Bucs and he would definetly be open to coming back to college. What the guy did for Rutgers was pretty damn good. He took a terrible team and started recruiting the hell out of Rutgers. Brought them in great class after great class. He develops players. I Would be all for it. If he loses hiss jack ass ways of trying to hurt people or just being the he is. But the guy can recruit and he can definetly coach on the college level. The article I read made it seem like he would definetly love to come back to the Northeast to. Or how about Eric "Mangenius" Mangini?

Well, we'd clean up in New England. We may think that Schiano can't develop his recruits, but Belichick's fondness for Schiano's players has given him just the opposite reputation in the region except among UConn fans. Add in a proven track record in recruiting NJ and the Central Atlantic region plus some success in Florida and I might be willing to overlook a few bonehead in-game decisions. We'd also have to get a strong quarterback coach because growing signal callers has been one of Schiano's biggest developmental shortcomings.

 

[FAIRTIDES]

Greg Schiano, I know he is like public enemy #1. I just read a story that hes probably getting fired from the Bucs and he would definetly be open to coming back to college. What the guy did for Rutgers was pretty damn good. He took a terrible team and started recruiting the hell out of Rutgers. Brought them in great class after great class. He develops players. I Would be all for it. If he loses hiss jack ass ways of trying to hurt people or just being the he is. But the guy can recruit and he can definetly coach on the college level. The article I read made it seem like he would definetly love to come back to the Northeast to. Or how about Eric "Mangenius" Mangini?

Since being fired by the Jets and later, the Browns, the overwhelming indication is that his players absolutely despised the man. He's obviously smart (Trinity, I think), but losing games and being hated by your players are two negatives for me. Guys like Lombardi and other martinets were tolerated because they won.

Make no mistake, it's going to be hard to find the correct mix of skills. "X" and "O" guys are a dime a dozen. So are technique teachers. Our guy has to be equal parts coach, teacher, pied piper and dream seller. He has to make players, recruits and fans believe. He has to sell the dream while winning with an exciting team. We need a first year, at Cincy, Brian Kelly. He went to every function, talked to every group and, most famously, jumped all over the Cincy media for not sending representatives to the BE meetings in Newport. He got the players he needed and he won. He was more than a coach. He was a one-man PR department that created excitement for his program.

Now, WM. Find and hire a Brian Kelly clone.

 

[Woof 101]

Ray Rice built RU's program...not Schiano

Not being a wise or a fan of Schiano but did he not recruit and coach Ray Rice? One player does not build a program. The word program is a world larger than any one player regardless of their ability.
This is like saying Ray and Rebecca built our basketball programs....One would have to think Jim and Geno had something to do with it...
Just say'n...

 

[babysheep]

Not being a wise or a fan of Schiano but did he not recruit and coach Ray Rice? One player does not build a program. The word program is a world larger than any one player regardless of their ability.
This is like saying Ray and Rebecca built our basketball programs....One would have to think Jim and Geno had something to do with it...
Just say'n...

Okay let's use a basketball analogy. Let's say that until 2011, UConn basketball had never made it out of the first round of the tournament. Then along comes a player like Kemba, being the stand-alone star and leader, and carries the team to a Final Four (don't even need a ship, just look at VCU). This leads to a spike in program popularity, better recruits start showing up, JC has way more to work with, and moderate success turns in to a trend. Kemba goes on to the NBA and wins a ring in his first 5 seasons as a key component in said run. Ultimately, the improved basketball profile makes UConn attractive enough to get an invite to a power conference, hidden $$$ motives aside. After a decade of service, JC moves on to the NBA and turns out to be a dud.

How would you slice that "built a program" pie?

 

[gioff23]

Okay let's use a basketball analogy. Let's say that until 2011, UConn basketball had never made it out of the first round of the tournament. Then along comes a player like Kemba, being the stand-alone star and leader, and carries the team to a Final Four (don't even need a ship, just look at VCU). This leads to a spike in program popularity, better recruits start showing up, JC has way more to work with, and moderate success turns in to a trend. Kemba goes on to the NBA and wins a ring in his first 5 seasons as a key component in said run. Ultimately, the improved basketball profile makes UConn attractive enough to get an invite to a power conference, hidden $ motives aside. After a decade of service, JC moves on to the NBA and turns out to be a dud.

How would you slice that "built a program" pie?

Not at all what happened at RU, but everyone has a theory. What Schiano did there was a near miracle. The true irony is that your argument suggests RU would not be RU without P. Had he not gotten fired, Ray would have stayed committed to Cuse.

 

[pepband99]

Not being a wise or a fan of Schiano but did he not recruit and coach Ray Rice? One player does not build a program. The word program is a world larger than any one player regardless of their ability.
This is like saying Ray and Rebecca built our basketball programs....One would have to think Jim and Geno had something to do with it...
Just say'n...

Ray Rice fell into his hands, ironically, because PP was fired at Cuse.

 

[UConnTim]

Ya know...when I read the recommendation about TOB, I quickly discarded the idea and moved on. I mean seriously....we just got rid of an older coach on the decline who was fired from his previous job and we are going to bring in another fossil? Not gonna happen.

But..it made me think about Jeff Jagodzinski. Remember the big splash he made at BC after TOB left? He was a good recruiter...ran an interesting offense and was the darling of the head coaching world. So I did a wiki look up...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Jagodzinski

What an odd career. We all know what happened at BC..getting fired after interviewing for a job with the Jets. You probably know that he was fired as OC in training camp by the Bucs in 2009 before the season started (because he couldn't communicate plays in a timely manner?)...but in January 2011, he was replaced as head coach of UFL team Omaha Nighthawks...after one season..by the CEO from TD Ameritrade, Joe Moglia? Then he was the wide receivers coach at Ave Maria University? What is that?

Now he is the OC at Georgia State University. No idea how he is doing...nor am I saying UConn should look at him...just thought his career path was interesting.

Jagodzinski would be a wonderful hire. He LOVES to recruit and has no issues pounding the pavement. Jagodzinksi is a stand up a guy, a family man, and ha a high standards for his player. Jagodzinksi preaches morals and values. He backs it up with his behavior off the field and is a role model. He's hands on with his assistant coaches and is not just a figure head like some of these other Head Coaches. High School coaches love Jagodzinski and I know many HC's in Connecticut that believed he could lead Boston College to consistent Top 10 ranking year in and year out.

 

[huskymedic]

Jagodzinski would be a wonderful hire. He LOVES to recruit and has no issues pounding the pavement. Jagodzinksi is a stand up a guy, a family man, and ha a high standards for his player. Jagodzinksi preaches morals and values. He backs it up with his behavior off the field and is a role model. He's hands on with his assistant coaches and is not just a figure head like some of these other Head Coaches. High School coaches love Jagodzinski and I know many HC's in Connecticut that believed he could lead Boston College to consistent Top 10 ranking year in and year out.

I've heard some of the same but one has to wonder why he fell so far out of consideration for everything that came up after he got whacked from BC and Tampa Bay.

 

[sportsart]

I'm sorry, but after reading about Shady having consistent top 25 teams, my eyes got all watery from laughter. Were there any other posts after that?

 

[noeynox]

I don't know. The rumor out of Tampa was that he was purposefully out to sabotage Raheem Morris. Couple that with how he went on that interview during year one, and you have some red flags that would lead me to stay away from the guy. You don't go from the NFL to Ave Maria College based on what uconntim wrote. Is uconntim jags himself?

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Schiano did a few things VERY well:

1. 
   [ ]Transformed a culture of losing
   [ ]Energized a fanbase
   [ ]Brought in great recruits

We need all of those things. Did we question his playcalling? Yes. Noone thought he was a master X and O's guy. However, I never felt like Rutgers put out a product that did not highlight their most talented players. He also ran a clean program that got it done in the classroom. And let's be honest, he's the reason they're in the B1G. Without his success, no 50k+ seat stadium. No fanbase traveling to road games and bowl games. No ratings. I know the media market was the key, but the B1G couldn't have brought in a horrible football product that was averaging 25k+ at home games.

Come on! In which one of those above named aspects does UConn need to get better at? Really, a holier than thou attitude at this point is appropriate if there ever was a time! NOT.

 

[MattMang23]

I think it's gonna be a moot point anyway. I have a hard time thinking Schiano will get fired at Tampa just yet. He's gonna have the opportunity to succeed with "his" qb, Mike Glennon. And not just for 13 games, more like for 29+ games.

 

[IMind]

Mike, I agree with you as well here. As was said previously, Rutgers had a fair amount of wtf losses, but at their peak, they reached higher highs than UCONN. Which I think speaks to some underachieving but also highlights the fact that they did have top shelf talent throughout the years.

Um what BCS bowl did Rutgers play in... I must have missed that game.

 

[Mr Blueskin]

No,no and no....this program needs something new and fresh. Plus he is one of the only guys that would make me dispise this whole program if we start losing with him.