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I will flat out say that we are 0-7 in large part because of untalented players. Can you really tell me you think the current UConn roster has the talent to win 6 FBS games regardless of the coach? I dont see Iit. This is one of the least talented teams we've had in the FBS era. Just terrible on both lines.


Hell yeah we have the talent to win 6 games. Your saying that Towson beat us because they have better talent? you think Buffalo has better talent? don't think so. Now, maybe we are 0-7 because we have been out coached sounds a lot like it. If Nick Saban was the HC here the kids will respond differently on the field and we will be one of the top teams in the conference. I don't buy the whole talent bull shit. Edsall took kids who were less talented and got the best out of them by coaching them up, take a look at Maryland, Edsall is coaching them kids up.
 
I have to appologize...we have gone back and forth so much that I got confused...is it correct to say your original top choices were Lembo and Campbell..then you moved on to Mangini?


I believe he likes all 3 in no particular order. I'm sure we all have a few coaches on our list. Did you say you like Ambrose at some point to be considered?
 
I believe he likes all 3 in no particular order. I'm sure we all have a few coaches on our list. Did you say you like Ambrose at some point to be considered?
No way at all to Ambrose! I hated him with a passion when he was here as an Assistant.
 
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Hell yeah we have the talent to win 6 games. Your saying that Towson beat us because they have better talent? you think Buffalo has better talent? don't up.

Sadly, I do think those two teams are as talented as this year's Huskies. Not more talented, but as. I think wi th a very good coach, this group would still be at 2, maybe 3 wins right now.
 
Mmm

Sadly, I do think those two teams are as talented as this year's Huskies. Not more talented, but as. I think wi th a very good coach, this group would still be at 2, maybe 3 wins right now.


I guess you can believe that, but IMHO PP and GDL's poor coaching has you fooled.
 
Mmm

Sadly, I do think those two teams are as talented as this year's Huskies. Not more talented, but as. I think wi th a very good coach, this group would still be at 2, maybe 3 wins right now.

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Thanks for your opinion Dez but you're wrong. Edsall didn't suddenly stop recruiting his last three years here, its the coaching that went into the tank (except for Don Brown) after he left. (all of the Seniors, Juniors, and Sophomores on this team are still Edsall guys)
 
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I guess you can believe that, but IMHO PP and GDL's poor coaching has you fooled.


Their poor coaching has the team winless, but I just dont see more than 5 wins based on the talent. At best.
 
I have to appologize...we have gone back and forth so much that I got confused...is it correct to say your original top choices were Lembo and Campbell..then you moved on to Mangini?


Those are my top three.

I posted so much about Mangini because there was such a negative reaction to him. I don't think his NFL performance as a head coach was nearly as bad as people make it out to be and I wanted to present an alternate view point. When you take a deep dive into his coaching history I think it becomes apparent that he did some good things, is very well respected in the coaching community and has potential. He is not Rich Kotite, Greg Schiano, or Paul Pasqualoni.
 
I really agree with this. Nutt is 56, so he's not that old and he's definitely high energy. I don't think he'll end up being the guy, but it would be an interesting fit. He is a southern boy through and through though.
is that a bad thing... like it or not we need to recruit the south. having someone that can do that isnt a bad thing.
 
Those are my top three.

I posted so much about Mangini because there was such a negative reaction to him. I don't think his NFL performance as a head coach was nearly as bad as people make it out to be and I wanted to present an alternate view point. When you take a deep dive into his coaching history I think it becomes apparent that he did some good things, is respected in the coaching community and has potential. He is not Rich Kotite, Greg Schiano, or Paul Pasqualoni.
Fair enough...we will agree to disagree on Mangini. The other 2 are quality candidates
 
Fair enough...we will agree to disagree on Mangini. The other 2 are quality candidates


Lembo, most likely isn't coming to Uconn as he made it strongly apparent that he's produced a strong enough resume to coach in the BiG.
 
Shouldn't we just assume that Houston Nutt (a deep south SEC guy) probably has a shady recruiting history. We don't really want to go down that path do we? I'm sure Warde doesn't.


Maybe the integrity thing was a little shaky in the past but I honestly equate that to the attitude of guys from NASCAR looking for every edge for an underdog program. And in the SEC he probably was up against much worse. Hopefully he's learned from his mistakes but at least the guy had a plan and realizes we need to upgrade our talent in order to be successful. So maybe now he comes up with a new plan to give us an edge. Worth considering but maybe not the perfect fit.
 
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Lembo, most likely isn't coming to Uconn as he made it strongly apparent that he's produced a strong enough resume to coach in the BiG.
I saw that today....it will be interesting to see where he ends up...and what kind of job he does.
 
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Thanks for your opinion Dez but you're wrong. Edsall didn't suddenly stop recruiting his last three years here, its the coaching that went into the tank (except for Don Brown) after he left. (all of the Seniors, Juniors, and Sophomores on this team are still Edsall guys)
You missed several posts. We lost over 50% of Edsall's 2009 2010 classes. He did stop recruiting or lost the ability. He left a mess.
 
I wouldn't count us out yet. Most of these guys are probably assuming we won't pay P5 money. If we do, they may see it as a nice opportunity.

A guy like Lembo is almost certain to be successful at UConn based on his previous stops. If we are willing to pay him, he may see the benefits of our facilities, brand and location.

A very strong UConn program will get a lot of coverage from major media and he'd be a fixture roaming the halls at ESPN. A great coach with a good personality will have a field day at UConn with our proximity to ESPN and NYC. We need someone that knows how to leverage it.
 
Eli played for Duke head coach David Cutcliff at Ole Miss (Cutcliff was OC at Tennessee when Peyton played there)
Michael Oher was recruited and played for current USC interim head coach Ed Orgeron and Nutt at Ole Miss

Just watch the Blind Side... that movie will educated you on every SEC coach during Oher's time... I think Nutt plays the coach at Arkansas if I'm not mistaken.
 
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Just watch the Blind Side... that movie will educated you on every SEC coach during Oher's time... I think Nutt plays the coach at Arkansas if I'm not mistaken.
I've seen it...Saban was at LSU during that time. Shula was at Alabama..
 
A couple of things here:

1 - My mom (who has since passed) was diagnosed in the late 1990's with the same form of cancer that took Sam Walton's life. Due to money invested by Walton, the best place in the world for treatment was in Arkansas. When I was there (visiting my mother at the medical center) in January 1999 Nutt could have asked to be king and would have been handed the job. while there have been many coaches loved by his (or her) fan base over the years, I doubt that there was ever a coach who was more loved over a brief period of time than Nutt was back then. That honeymoon ended but the idea that someone like Houston Nutt would consider the UConn job has to dispel many of the rumors that most quality coaches would never consider us.

2 - If we are going to succeed as a major football program we will need 50% of our roster from the following block of states: New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Maryland and Virginia. We will need nother 20%-25% from Florida and the rest can be filled out with New York, New England and whatever other states we can land a stray recruit or two from. I personally believe that it is very possible for a school to win an FBS national title without have one player on its roster who is from New England. I doubt that a school can compete in any FBS conference if there is a large portion (more than ~ 25%) of its roster from New England.

not disagreeing. but ct has produced some decent players. if uconn can consistently become a top choice for local talent that can only help add depth.
I'm not saying the answer is to depend on CT talent, but you can't come in and ignore the local talent either. over time, it becomes a symbiotic relationship.
 
What's Good?

Thanks for your opinion Dez but you're wrong. Edsall didn't suddenly stop recruiting his last three years here, its the coaching that went into the tank (except for Don Brown) after he left. (all of the Seniors, Juniors, and Sophomores on this team are still Edsall guys)


By the way, this line was in a recent story

In fact, Weist regularly steps up and admits his mistakes. He didn't walk into the rosiest of situations and had a quite a challenge after Pasqualoni's departure.
And like Pasqualoni, Weist is not super-equipped with the pieces or the depth the Huskies need to turn things around.

Cupboard bare Cupboard bare Cupboard bare Cupboard bare P didn't suck, RE didn't leave anything for him.

We're never gonna hear the end of it. And when the new coach turns things around, it's gonna be with P's recruits.
 
I will flat out say that we are 0-7 in large part because of untalented players. Can you really tell me you think the current UConn roster has the talent to win 6 FBS games regardless of the coach? I dont see Iit. This is one of the least talented teams we've had in the FBS era. Just terrible on both lines.

Insert "coaching matters" rant here . . .
 
I'm gonna have you pump the brakes there. Orgeron recruited well at Ole Miss because he was dirty as hell. Hugh Freeze is now recruiting well at Ole Miss because he is dirty as hell. Nutt has a pretty good reputation for running a pretty clean program. Because of that, he did not succeed at Ole Miss.

There's a reason Ed Orgeron has made his entire career at The U (Miami), Tennessee, and USC. 3 od the dirtiest programs around. Yeah, he's a good "recruiter".

What are you putting the brakes on? He's not pumping Orgeron for the position, only pointing out that he got good players at Ole Miss, and Nutt won with those players before fading quickly. Everything he said is 100% correct.
 
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My brother has season tickets to Ole Miss and has told me many times how bad he left Ole Miss and broke ties with a number of high schools in Mississippi and lost every major recruiting fight with Dan Mullen at Miss St during his time. When he left Ole Miss was as bad as any team in the BCS conferences.

I don't want him anywhere near the program and think UCONN can do better, period.
I would rather have Dan Mullen who is on the hot seat at Miss St. He comes from New Hampshire and knows New England and surrounding states. He is a Urban Meyer protege
 
RE was not a top notch recruiter. For a good long time many of his recruits had no other offers (not even from 1-aa, div. II.....nobody) and he referred to them as "diamonds in the rough" "under the radar".
Now I'm not criticizing the recruits.........everybody, coaches, players, people who work in a wide variety of professions, all have some type of ceiling based on natural abilities, talents, .....we all try and work hard but few of us have the capacity to make it to the NFL or as a president of a fortune 500 company.
Maybe that is why RE so eagerly left for Maryland. His last two teams were not "home run" hitters, and you will remember that some boneyarders were calling for RE's head in 2010. He saw and understood what the "tea leaves" showed.......and got out as quick as he could. I don't by that "dream job" hoopla!
We are where we are because we've hit the ceiling in available talent on the team......whether it be the players and/or coaches, or a combination of both.
That's not to say anyone "gives up".......what they may lask in talent compare to other teams they display in effort and character. There may not be many future NFL'ers, but it would not surprise me if quite a few exceled in their chosen profession after graduation.
The best that is going to happen for most of the players is they get a good education at a pretty good school. And for that I am thankful and very happy.
 
Lembo, most likely isn't coming to Uconn as he made it strongly apparent that he's produced a strong enough resume to coach in the BiG.
There have been rumors, and they are actually more than just rumors, that UCONN and the B10 have been talking recently behind the scenes. Now you have to figure that Lembo knows that, and is indeed considering UCONN.
 
What are you putting the brakes on? He's not pumping Orgeron for the position, only pointing out that he got good players at Ole Miss, and Nutt won with those players before fading quickly. Everything he said is 100% correct.

Yeah...what he said.

I was going to respond but just let it go. You are correct on what my intent was.
 
There have been rumors, and they are actually more than just rumors, that UCONN and the B10 have been talking recently behind the scenes. Now you have to figure that Lembo knows that, and is indeed considering UCONN.

Um,,, Okay. Stop yanking our chain man.
 
There have been rumors, and they are actually more than just rumors, that UCONN and the B10 have been talking recently behind the scenes. Now you have to figure that Lembo knows that, and is indeed considering UCONN.

If Lembo is indeed a candidate one team (already in the B1G) that we'd probably need to be leary of is Minnesota
 
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