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Houston Chronicle exclusive: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to SEC about joining conference.

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-> Boise State hired MRJ Advisors in November 2020, according to the documents, and the group visited Boise State’s campus and began gathering comparative information later that month. After Dickey and Avalos were hired in January, the firm presented its findings to the athletic department in February, using data collected from fiscal year 2019.

The group concluded that if Boise State can’t land in a Power Five conference, its best bet might be to stay in the Mountain West — in part because of the favorable cut of the conference’s TV money that goes to the Broncos, and also because institutional support and Boise State’s academic ratings lag behind many AAC schools, not to mention those competing at the pinnacle of the sport. <-

-> The Broncos’ main reason to stay — at least when it comes to possibly joining another Group of Five conference — begins with that favorable cut of the TV revenue, according to MRJ Advisors. The latest number available placed the value of Boise State’s extra benefit at $1.8 million, with a total TV payout of about $5.7 million.

“Boise State has a ‘preferred’ revenue share in the Mountain West Conference. We do not believe it is likely that other conferences would incorporate,” the group wrote in its presentation to members of the athletic department. “Also, there is currently not an increase in media revenue associated with the AAC compared to the MWC based upon current media contracts.” <-
 
Stinger92860 said:
Car wash? A guy, who knows a guy, who knows a guy? I’m in. We ask for 10M a year. UConn to the BIG!!!!!!

Thanks for sharing. Wouldn’t this be nice. I thought Rutger’s rivals were Maryland and PSU, no?
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Yes, I can 100% confirm it’s a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy. :)
 
BlueDogs said:
A little car wash info - I heard from a guy who knows a guy that the B1G move could be Kansas and UConn. Both teams suck in FB but are BB powerhouses and both offer nice markets. Gives Neb. a rival to beat on and also give Rutgers a playmate for some regional rivalry. Info Reliability scale unknown. Doesn’t seem to square with the mantra that any add must bring $50 M in revenue contribution, but the logic is pretty strong.
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Actually this scenario is not so far fetched. A probability of perhaps less than 10%, but not vanishingly small. Not sure about Kansas, but UConn is not an AAU school and not likely to become one anytime soon unless they do something about their overhead rate. So there is that headwind too. Still, interesting.
 
billybud said:
This is just Billy's opinion, but...

In the old days it was about regions and similar culture.

Now everything is driven by getting the best matchups for the available bandwidth on any given Saturday. This is what drives ratings, which is what drives advertising, which brings in the money. ESPN and Fox make the ad money and payout the tv contract money to the conferences.

They don’t care about population base. They care about marquee matchups that drive ratings. The SEC is mostly in small college towns but they have a huge ratings each Saturday because of the quality of the teams. Otherwise big city schools would dominate, but they don’t.

It’s about having top teams playing each other. ESPN doesn’t care if they all are in the same state or thousands of miles apart, as long as the matchups are good. That’s, I think, what’s going to be the catalyst for realignment.
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I don’t watch the SEC, B1G, ACC, Big12, or especially ND. My main regret is that I’m not a Nielsen household.
 
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For the teams saying it, all this "monitoring the landscape" tripe is quite comical. I remember when UConn had the all-star monitoring team.

As an aside Utah was granted AAU admission, along with Dartmouth and UC Santa Cruz in 2019. UConn? Well, Herbst's efforts fell about as short as they could be with respect to this. She was as bad at growing research as she was as growing UConn's endowment. And everybody knows that a portion of research grants at UConn goes into the pension kitty, making UConn even more noncompetitive. So UConn is falling further behind other schools.

On a happier note, the also-rans of the Big 12 are soon to be in a worse fate than UConn, if that's possible.
 
Rumrunner said:
For the teams saying it, all this "monitoring the landscape" tripe is quite comical. I remember when UConn had the all-star monitoring team.

As an aside Utah was granted AAU admission, along with Dartmouth and UC Santa Cruz in 2019. UConn? Well, Herbst's efforts fell about as short as they could be with respect to this. She was as bad at growing research as she was as growing UConn's endowment. And everybody knows that a portion of research grants at UConn goes into the pension kitty, making UConn even more noncompetitive. So UConn is falling further behind other schools.

On a happier note, the also-rans of the Big 12 are soon to be in a worse fate than UConn, if that's possible.
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We are the original leaders in CR monitoring. Nobody has done it better. Those other poor bastards have no idea how to take the repeated nut kicks we have.
 
uconnfan68 said:
You think Texas has better lawyers than Disney?
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I could be reading this tweet incorrectly, but the way I see it is ESPN will absorb the exit fees with their already agreed upon contract for the Longhorn Network to allow Texas and Oklahoma to enter the SEC, now also an ESPN entity. They’re not leaving the Disney family.
 
CL82 said:
When people talk about the American raiding the big 12 I wonder if they realize the big 12 schools will be splitting $160 million in exit fees.
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Yup, The Big 12 will be doing the raiding, no doubt about it, and the weakest in the AAC will not be invited. The weakest in the AAC will then likely raid from the Sunbelt, Conference USA, and possibly MAC.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Yup, The Big 12 will be doing the raiding, no doubt about it, and the weakest in the AAC will not be invited. The weakest in the AAC will then likely raid from the Sunbelt, Conference USA, and possibly MAC.
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If those were the only 2 choices, yes B12 wins every time. But this is not binary - the B12 is a dead man walking. Ok St, KU and certain others are not thinking it’s in their best interest to stay part of B12 with the likes of cincy, UCF, Boise, etc. they are likely working every angle to get into PAC or BIG.
 
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www.espn.com

A Texas-OU move to SEC isn't about the greater good for college sports, but rather who gets to be the best

Growing and changing any sport isn't new and, at most times, is necessary. But the rumblings of Texas and Oklahoma likely moving to the SEC remind us that the power brokers pulling the strings don't factor in the greater good.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

It drives me bonkers this article keeps referencing "power brokers" and the shift of the college landscape for the worse as if ESPN has absolutely nothing to do with it. The SEC may be running the show this time around, but ESPN has been privy to every other realignment for the worse over the years, if not the lynchpin, IMHO.

Ironically, I feel like we are way better off as an independent/free agent floating wherever the realignment winds may blow rather than still being hitched to the AAC wagon, even if it becomes the Big AAC after picking up the B12 detritus.
 
gioff2323 said:
If those were the only 2 choices, yes B12 wins every time. But this is not binary - the B12 is a dead man walking. Ok St, KU and certain others are not thinking it’s in their best interest to stay part of B12 with the likes of cincy, UCF, Boise, etc. they are likely working every angle to get into PAC or BIG.
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OK, think that through. Where are they going? Once you have their tentative new conferences figured out, try to figure out how the new conference makes more money by inviting them. Because if that last part isn’t going to happen, none of it will.
 
THE dollars published are nonsense.

The variance between the SEC and B12 today is ... $45m to $37m (with the proviso that the SEC is growing far faster in revenue). The Buyout? $160m! You are in an annual deficit of $8m ... and you pay 10 times each to jump? This is really about getting yourself to the TOP platform ... knowing you are crushing the partners you have had for 60 years. I am glad we are UCONN; I love thinking BC screwed us ... and we get to punish them in oodles of ways. Spit on them at the beach. But, if BC had a business arrangement whereby we played since 1960 in contractual agreement ... and you screwed us> sheesh.
 
Programs act in their own interest...

UConn left the AAC because it suited their interest...Maryland, a founding ACC member went to the B1G because it suited thir interest, A&M bolted the Big 12 because it suited their interest...Texas and Oklahoma are doing the same.
 
metsfan2323 said:
Yup, The Big 12 will be doing the raiding, no doubt about it, and the weakest in the AAC will not be invited. The weakest in the AAC will then likely raid from the Sunbelt, Conference USA, and possibly MAC.
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The decision of whether the B12 does the raiding or if the AAC does the raiding will be decided by FOX & ESPN.

FOX could technically blow the TV contract up and walk away from the B12 with the departure of UT & OK. Do they decide to walk and keep their powder for an upcoming B1G/PAC expansion or are they willing to make a deal with the remaining B12 schools allowing them to expand and stay alive?

Or, does ESPN see an opportunity to add value to their AAC property by adding B12 refugees?

Either way, the conference that survives will be determined by which of FOX or ESPN decide to step up.
 
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CL82 said:
OK, think that through. Where are they going? Once you have their tentative new conferences figured out, try to figure out how the new conference makes more money by inviting them. Because if that last part isn’t going to happen, none of it will.
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I did not say they’d get taken, I’m just saying as long as they remain in a conf that is now outside the P4, they’ll be itching to be somewhere else. It’ll make every AAC school think twice.
 
So is Texas/OU waiting to 2025 or are they gonna bite the bullet and aim to join next year?
 
DCUconnfan said:
www.espn.com

A Texas-OU move to SEC isn't about the greater good for college sports, but rather who gets to be the best

Growing and changing any sport isn't new and, at most times, is necessary. But the rumblings of Texas and Oklahoma likely moving to the SEC remind us that the power brokers pulling the strings don't factor in the greater good.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

It drives me bonkers this article keeps referencing "power brokers" and the shift of the college landscape for the worse as if ESPN has absolutely nothing to do with it. The SEC may be running the show this time around, but ESPN has been privy to every other realignment for the worse over the years, if not the lynchpin, IMHO.

Ironically, I feel like we are way better off as an independent/free agent floating wherever the realignment winds may blow rather than still being hitched to the AAC wagon, even if it becomes the Big AAC after picking up the B12 detritus.
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ESPN absolutely has a hand in this, as their analysts feign shock publicly.

Also agree that going Independent and Big East otherwise was for the best for exactly this reason. Get out of the fray, maintain the program appropriately, and let the realignment chips fall where they may.
 
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metsfan2323 said:
Yup, The Big 12 will be doing the raiding, no doubt about it, and the weakest in the AAC will not be invited. The weakest in the AAC will then likely raid from the Sunbelt, Conference USA, and possibly MAC.
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I would think this would make 2 non power conferences but that will be up to the networks
 
mikedog10 said:
In the movie based off this analogy, Paul Finebaum is definitely some sort of state media propaganda mouthpiece.
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Bongo Fury said:
I would think this would make 2 non power conferences but that will be up to the networks
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Finebaum is the walking talking Goebbels of the SEC.

He is also the man for whom the saying 'He has a face made for radio' fits like the proverbial glove.
 
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ESPN might do it like with FSU....no official contact...have a SEC school President have lunch with the Texas President...social visit... info passes in the guise of gossip...no notes...no ESPN involvement
 
ESPN shoots a cannon shot across the bow of the USS Big 12...USS Big 12 has a swabbie on the foredeck armed with a water pistol.

Bowlsby is trying to leverage the payout by officially insisting that OU and Texas stay until June 2025. Two law firms will be winners when this goes to court, no matter the final settlement.
 
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