Houston Chronicle exclusive: Texas, Oklahoma reach out to SEC about joining conference.

[tzznandrew]

If 6 teams are left I think you have to go Cinci, Houston, UCF, USF. If you're adding more than 2 teams you have to go in the same geographical direction unless you want to deal with all the other issues

If they're down to six, you probably do have to add UCF and USF. But that's a disaster for them.

 

[JMick]

If they're down to six, you probably do have to add UCF and USF. But that's a disaster for them.

It's also the absolute worst case scenario for the AAC. They really need all 8 schools to stick together or hope there are 2-3 left that they can add.

 

[tzznandrew]

LOL. Big Ten isn't adding another school from Iowa.

The Big Ten should just fold as a conference if having AAU (at the time of invitation, since Nebraska isn't in the AAU and everyone knew it wouldn't be when they were invited) is so important to them that they'd take the second best school in a small market they already have a foothold over rather than think more innovatively. ISU adds nothing, and Kansas already has a both Iowa and Nebraska there if, for some reason, that mattered so much to them.

 

[CL82]

I'm not sure how many different ways it needs to be posted: Iowa State is not going to the Big10.

Iowa State, going to the Big 10, it is not.​

 

[billybud]

Academics, markets, geographic footprint...

These may all mean much less in the upcoming age than marquee match ups that draw viewers....

And the SEC will have cornered beaucoup big time match ups....

And, with ESPN's ownership, will dominate prime time slots.

I think Texas and Oklahoma saw this coming when ESPN and Fox refused to renegotiate the Big 12 media contract....their fans had been complaining about their schedule and TV slots...

 

[BigTenFan]

LOL. Big Ten isn't adding another school from Iowa.

Some interesting numbers from Iowa State Athletic Dept:

Since 2008:

• College Football (FBS level) Attendance is down 11% (47k average in 2008, 42k 2018)
• ISU has added 12% capacity to our stadium (55k to 61.5k)
• ISU has seen average attendance increase 18% (47k to 56k)

 

[Exit 4]

Some interesting numbers from Iowa State Athletic Dept:

Since 2008:

• College Football (FBS level) Attendance is down 11% (47k average in 2008, 42k 2018)
• ISU has added 12% capacity to our stadium (55k to 61.5k)
• ISU has seen average attendance increase 18% (47k to 56k)

Yeah, SEC adds TX and OK and B1G counters with the second school in a state they already have in a team.

You can't feed the B1G $$$ machine with an add like ISU. At the very least if the B1G adds it has to be new markets with the exception being ND.

 

[jostar1]

 

[Exit 4]

Recruiting market paranoia is about to set in.... a second reason for possible very bold moves from either the PAC or B1G.

 

[JMick]

Recruiting market paranoia is about to set in.... a second reason for possible very bold moves from either the PAC or B1G.

Who does the PAC take? Tech and OSU?

 

[phillionaire]

Who does the PAC take? Tech and OSU?

Woof

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Some interesting numbers from Iowa State Athletic Dept: Since 2008 ...

Iowa: B1G has the Hawkeyes; ISU at best splits 3m people (setting aside UNI supporters); blah state net income/wallets; massive 70-somethingth media market (Des Moines); ISU is limited add for other markets (Chicago, St Louis, KC, Omaha), etc. Good luck Cy!

 

[JMick]

Woof

Yeah exactly. As much as they might want to be in Texas they don't exactly have any good options.

 

[Exit 4]

Who does the PAC take? Tech and OSU?

I would think it’s four teams or none. Two would just not move the media needle.

Even though CA is talent rich, I would want access to TX and it’s burgeoning football factory (and economy- think long term).

A major obstacle would be the religious affiliations - seems like a non starter. So it’s TT, KS, OSU and ISU. The 16 team conf could switch to four team pods. Could Houston pull a Louisville to bump ISU or OSU yeah?- maybe.

But I think Fox and the B1G need to go first and do their thing evaluating some sort of big move and then it’s the PAC’s turn if the B1G spits the bit on some western power play.

 

[Drew]

You can make an argument for UCF, though I don't think they bring much.

BYU would bring a lot if you can cooperate with them, but I doubt they will.

Boise? Meh. Don't really think they bring all that much.

Sure but the original comment was about only Cinci and Houston having National chache in football among the “options”. I definitely disagree with that notion.

 

[tzznandrew]

Sure but the original comment was about only Cinci and Houston having National chache in football among the “options”. I definitely disagree with that notion.

Fair. I just think that those are probably the only two teams that make a lot of sense. Cincy gives good football and bball as well as a traveling partner to WVU.

Houston has historic rivalries with some other conference members along with a football history. It also kills the AAC in a way that losing UCF, say, doesn't really.

 

[Chin Diesel]

I bet they would do four 5-team pods to help with the travel, but yeah traveling from XXXXX to Morgantown is miserable.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Exit 4]

Sure but the original comment was about only Cinci and Houston having National chache in football among the “options”. I definitely disagree with that notion.

If the B12 is going to survive this I think they need to bring four teams rather than two.

The four: Cincy, Houston or SMU, UCF and either Memphis or USF.

I wouldnt go west to Boise State unless my media partners said it was the only way to get to a good tv contract number.

The remaining AAC schools slide to CUSA or independent status. I think Temple follows us with an independent football/A10 combo.

 

[Austin316]

I’m confused why people don’t think ISU has a shot at B10.

 

[Ajs120102]

I’m confused why people don’t think ISU has a shot at B10.

Honestly out of all the available teams it’s probably the most solid. But I don’t think Big 10 when I think Iowa State. Same can be said for Texas with SEC. nothing is making sense.

 

[UConnSportsGuy]

I’m confused why people don’t think ISU has a shot at B10.

I'm confused why anyone would think ISU has a shot at B1G. No chance.

 

[Austin316]

I'm confused why anyone would think ISU has a shot at B1G. No chance.

Honestly out of all the available teams it’s probably the most solid. But I don’t think Big 10 when I think Iowa State. Same can be said for Texas with SEC. nothing is making sense.

got it… y’all have no clue. I thought there would be legitimate reason but guess not.

It’s an eligible AAU school with rivalry to Iowa. I just wanted to clarify none of your opinions matter and it’s still a possibility.

Just Yardin’ (no hate).

 

[freescooter]

I'm confused why anyone would think ISU has a shot at B1G. No chance.

And somebody explain why a school from a the 33rd most populous State with a football program with 3 winning seasons since JOINING THE BIG 12 is attractive to a conference trying to maintain football importance?

 

[tzznandrew]

I’m confused why people don’t think ISU has a shot at B10.

What does ISU offer the Big Ten that it already doesn't have?

They have a school in Iowa with a better basketball and football track record. Iowa has fewer people than Connecticut...and you want two schools there? Also, with a 100 year head start on UConn, Iowa State has finished ranked in the Top 25 exactly two more time than UConn has. By contrast, Iowa Hawkeyes have finished ranked 23 more times. So...why? Because they're in the AAU?

Further, if Florida and South Carolina have banded together to blackball FSU and Clemson...and it worked in the SEC, why the hell would Iowa be cool with Iowa State? A&M got overriden...because Texas is Texas and coming with OU.

 

[Austin316]

I disagree. I think if the conference gets KU and Iowa petitions for it they might get it. It’s the only logical AAU school in the region.