House of Dragon, GoT Prequil

[Deepster]

But their cameras weren't up to the task. It's filled with artifacts and looks really cheap.

I don't understand your point.

You want dragons flying around for 10 minutes every hour and the rest of the budget takes a hit.

 

[HuskyHawk]

I don't understand your point.

You want dragons flying around for 10 minutes every hour and the rest of the budget takes a hit.

My point is, dark scenes are fine. Film them with cameras that can handle the dark scenes without significant artifacts. They didn't. So the dark scenes look like crap.

 

[SubbaBub]

I understand why Martin wanted the Greyjoys to attack, but he never establishes their motivation. In fact, it makes no sense at all, and the attack predictably fails despite the Greyjoys having completely caught Robb Stark by surprise and left him helpless to do anything other than roving bands of northerners. And even if somehow the Greyjoys could hold onto some part of the North, would Tywin ever have let them remain independent? Of course not. It is actually a plot hole that he doesn't crush them once he has Robb Stark murdered. It was certainly never explained why Tywin allows them to continue to function independently at all. Even Robert Baratheon crushed them when they rose against him. It is like Martin knew he made a mess of that plotline, but he wanted to do other stuff with them so he lets them stay out there despite the fact that it undermines the rest of the story.

I don't know if you have read the books, but Martin makes a total mess of that plot line by the end of the fifth book.

It was guaranteed to fail for the Greyjoys, which undermines everything else that they do, yet somehow they emerge under Euron stronger than they were before losing most of their army in the North? I think it qualifies as a huge plot hole, and undermines everything that comes afterward in the books and the show.

I think the plot tangle that Martin had created for both Sansa and the Greyjoys is the reason that he will never finish the books. There is no way out from where he has the story.

It was Theon's idea to prove himself/get revenge on his foster family for "reasons"/get in the good graces on his father. His father knew it was stupid because, "the north remembers" and the salt throne king remembers getting his ass handed to him by the Starks and handing over his son as a ward/hostage.

The plot holes in GOT are too numerous to count even if you allow for the TV edit and the absence of the last two books. The Greyjoy thread isn't really one of them.

 

[Deepster]

My point is, dark scenes are fine. Film them with cameras that can handle the dark scenes without significant artifacts. They didn't. So the dark scenes look like crap.

I guess I just don't agree. You're watching a movie quality TV show that lasts 10-12 hours. I don't know of another show on right now with better quality.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I was wondering what the inspiration was for House of the Dragon since the War of the Roses was George Martin's inspiration for Game of Thrones. It turns out The Anarchy was the inspiration for House of the Dragon. The Anarchy was an English Civil War in the 12th century that got pretty ugly and pretty much trashed England. Like HotD, it started with a dispute over whether female succession was possible. There is a decent miniseries about 12 years ago with Eddie Redmayne, Haley Atwell and Allison Pill that is set during that period.

For those keeping score at home, virtually every period of English history between about 800 AD and modern times has a major TV miniseries, TV series or movie set during it. Apparently now that Hollywood has gone through all the historical representations, it is coming through again with fantasy versions of the same periods. Is Sci Fi next?

 

[ZooCougar]

This show is so much more well done than GoT. And GoT was peak TV for much of its run.

I had to watch the last 30 minutes last night twice.

 

[navery12]

This show is so much more well done than GoT. And GoT was peak TV for much of its run.

I had to watch the last 30 minutes last night twice.

If nothing else they've at least learned not to have the most important battles fought in complete darkness. Last night was definitely the best episode of the series so far

 

[ZooCougar]

I have to admit, it took me several tries over several years to binge watch GoT. I've never been into zombie shows, and after the first episode or two it looked like that's what GoT was going to be.

Once I stuck with it, I liked it. Not as much as all the hype, but it was good.

Just watch the first episode of House of Dragons. It begins 172 years before GoT. Has a medieval England feel to it that I don't remember seeing in GoT.

The basic theme will apparently be who gets to sit on the iron throne. Not sure if GoT ever mentioned whether or not a queen ruled, but it's pretty obvious the king's young daughter will eventually be his heir after the family feud plays out. As they say, "The only thing that can bring down the House of Dragons, is itself."


Oh - no zombies so far, but lots of blondes.

You don’t recall it being Medieval in GoT? It must be really backwards where you are.

 

[M.S.G.]

My wife and I are both really struggling keeping up with this show. I feel as if they just assume we know all the family names at this point.

 

[temery]

You don’t recall it being Medieval in GoT? It must be really backwards where you are.

I remember it being very dark, especially the last episode. So, maybe the Dark Ages.

 

[ZooCougar]

My wife and I are both really struggling keeping up with this show. I feel as if they just assume we know all the family names at this point.

I had to go back and watch a couple of the episodes from the first season.

There was too much time in between the seasons.

Also the names are too similar and “unfamiliar”.

Daemon and Eamond are very similar characters and have similar names.

That’s really my only nitpick. Otherwise this is pretty epic TV.

 

[temery]

My wife and I are both really struggling keeping up with this show. I feel as if they just assume we know all the family names at this point.

They should have a family tree with pictures at the beginning of every episode.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

I like House of the Dragon better than most of the Game of Thrones run. The characters are complex and interesting, and the plot twists have created a feeling that all of them are headed towards inexorable disaster despite many of their best efforts to avoid it. It is well done.

 

[ZooCougar]

I like House of the Dragon better than most of the Game of Thrones run. The characters are complex and interesting, and the plot twists have created a feeling that all of them are headed towards inexorable disaster despite many of their best efforts to avoid it. It is well done.

Pacing is better. They have mastered the art of telling a big story without using much time. You don't have to show the whole battle. You can just show what it looks like afterwards and that shot says it all.

 

[ZooCougar]

Also dragons. Lots of dragons. Dragons are cool.

The history of the dragons and who rode them is a series in itself.

 

[ZooCougar]

They should have a family tree with pictures at the beginning of every episode.

Just wait until you figure out the dragons all have names too.

 

[AreBee1969]

They should have a family tree with pictures at the beginning of every episode.

I am constantly bring up the family tree on my phone when watching. The book is even more confusing. There are basically 80 characters using four male names and four female names in 700 pages. I read it on the beach with a lot of beers and that only made it worse.

 

[ZooCougar]

 

[ZooCougar]

 

[ZooCougar]

Worst season finale ever.

 

[AreBee1969]

Worst season finale ever.

I sat there just saying "WTF?"

 

[ZooCougar]

I sat there just saying "WTF?"

Literally mud wrestling.

 

[AreBee1969]

Literally mud wrestling.

I don't even know where to go with that.

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Everyone gets a dragon. See you in two years.

 

[navery12]

Very weird finale, casualty of the shortened seasons which are unavoidable with the budget needed for a show with so many dragons. I assumed a battle or something interesting was coming though

 

[Just.A.Fan]

I can't help but wonder how and what the feel all these dragons everyday?