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ZooCougar said:
If you guys think we have trouble attracting good Assistant Coaches then just wait and see what caliber of Head Coach we can hire if we fire Edsall.

I’m not saying Edsall is doing a good job but sometimes you just have to let things run their course. Plus we simply can’t afford to fire him.

I was one of his biggest critics in his first go around. Now I think I am just being realistic.
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Welcome to the right side.
 
CL82 said:
I respectfully suggest that giving Randy time is actually "being committed to football."

Hate to agree with the Eeyores but if you like football you should be rooting hard for REv2 because if he doesn't show improvement there is a realistic chance we'll downgrade.

(FWIW I am of the opinion the choices are FBS or no football. There isn't much point in FCS.)
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The only problem with your post is that the Eeyores have been historically right and ahead of the curve.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Welcome to the right side.
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He’s the right coach but if he doesn’t get the support he needs from the school then he won’t be successful.

Building a program that will be in the old BCS conference was one thing. We don’t have that selling point anymore. I don’t envy Randy one bit.

He needs to look at how Al Golden raised Temple from the ashes. That’s the roadmap in my opinion.
 
ZooCougar said:
He’s the right coach but if he doesn’t get the support he needs from the school then he won’t be successful.

Building a program that will be in the old BCS conference was one thing. We don’t have that selling point anymore. I don’t envy Randy one bit.

He needs to look at how Al Golden raised Temple from the ashes. That’s the roadmap in my opinion.
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I actually think Edsall was a terrible re-hire. It was the safest and most cost effective move the school could make at the time given the financial realities.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
I actually think Edsall was a terrible re-hire. It was the safest and most cost effective move the school could make at the time given the financial realities.
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Yeah but who else was there? He was a known quantity. More likely to be successful over the long run than not.
 
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CL82 said:
I respectfully suggest that giving Randy time is actually "being committed to football."

Hate to agree with the Eeyores but if you like football you should be rooting hard for REv2 because if he doesn't show improvement there is a realistic chance we'll downgrade.

(FWIW I am of the opinion the choices are FBS or no football. There isn't much point in FCS.)
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Yes, but next season is like the Third Date. You know what is supposed to happen right?

If we don’t see some sort of positive sign then yes, his seat will get really hot.
 
ZooCougar said:
Yes, but next season is like the Third Date. You know what is supposed to happen right?
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Um, we're supposed to score?

(I think Randy is here through year 4 given the enormity of the task he's been given. But yeah, we'd need to see signs of life next year and considerable improvement in year 4.)
 
ZooCougar said:
Yeah but who else was there? He was a known quantity. More likely to be successful over the long run than not.
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That’s the thing. There was literally no other option. That’s why I think there’s a very real chance that Edsall may be the last football coach we have.
 
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JMick said:
You're an idiot bill. You know it, I know it; everybody knows it
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You have a very high opinion of yourself and think you are smarter than you actually are.

Go back to the cesspool where the other degenerates are located at. Leave UConn football to those who want it to succeed and not be discontinued. You and Waylon are very alike on this issue and many others
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
Not sure how you can that. I think there’s a 40% chance the program is shut down within the next decade.

I hope I’m wrong and you’re right but our track records probably say otherwise.
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We have a bad run of 8 years and some of you think the program is over as a result. Unreal.

As people say, win and fans will show up. Simple. If Edsall can't do it, then next.

We'll survive the downtimes. Don't worry.
 
Butch said:
We have a bad run of 8 years and some of you think the program is over as a result. Unreal.

As people say, win and fans will show up. Simple. If Edsall can't do it, then next.

We'll survive the downtimes. Don't worry.
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I'm hoping to survive the week :)
 
You have no sense of money.

Institutions - States - Universities ... they don't walk away from $400m investments. This notion some of you have about a "drop football" or down to money-losing FCS ... ain't happening. Don't cite the annual shortfall.

Remember that Edsall has huge confidence that he is here for a good solid length of time. How do we know? That contract, and the way the University made that commitment. That is precisely why he is managing the roster the way he is.
 
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I wonder what the economics of UConn football are. What does the balance sheet look like overall? What does it look like for a home game? I've never seen anything motivate a Board to action like the bleeding of money....

That being said, I support UConn football because of the kids. As a former NCAA athlete myself, I know what the gig is and these young men are doing it. NOBODY likes losing and I can only hope that their distaste of losing and their desire to win compels them to do whatever it takes to WIN some games. My fear is when the leader doesn't care about wins and loses. Was he hired as an Academic Advisor or was he hired to win football games? HCRE 2.0's moral compass argument aside, I hope he remembers that his purview is football and that he has a job to do. Most CEO's don't clean the bathrooms at their companies and conversely, the janitors generally don't handle the financial books. I'd like to see a little focus on the job for which he was hired.

I won't give up on Huskies Football until they do.
 
If the choices were between keeping Diaco and hiring Edsall I literally cannot fathom thinking hiring Edsall was the move. It was a bad idea for football and for finances.
 
Dooley said:
According to this site: Randy Edsall contract at Connecticut, the buyout is:

$2M if before 12/1/18;
$1M if before 12/1/19

According to this site, we save $1M if we wait until Dec 2, 2018. Seems like a no-brainer to at least wait until December to make a decision.

But I do agree with the folks above, I don't see Edsall being fired this year. We're too cheap and uncommitted to football. I'd love to see $1M added to the assistant's pool but know full well that isn't happening either. But at least we'll break ground on a part-time hockey arena and get to pay the cost of that back for 30 years.
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Randy is not currently under a signed contract.
 
Chief00 said:
Randy is not currently under a signed contract.
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No, but he is currently working under an executed MOU (which includes buyout language)which is binding until the execution of a formal contract.
 
huskymedic said:
No, but he is currently working under an executed MOU (which includes buyout language)which is binding until the execution of a formal contract.
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I am not a lawyer, but this definition says it’s not legally binding. It also says a MOU is temporary - so it’s unclear to me if the intent of a MOU is temporary and we are nearly two years in - does the MOU really even exists in spirit?
Memorandum of Understanding - MOU
 
Chief00 said:
Randy is not currently under a signed contract.
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huskymedic said:
No, but he is currently working under an executed MOU (which includes buyout language)which is binding until the execution of a formal contract.
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Chief00 said:
I am not a lawyer, but this definition says it’s not legally binding. It also says a MOU is temporary - so it’s unclear to me if the intent of a MOU is temporary and we are nearly two years in - does the MOU really even exists in spirit?
Memorandum of Understanding - MOU
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LOL... Investopedia. How about the actual document - would that help?

Edsall/Benedict Executed MOU (12/28/16)

Relevant language: "... this letter and the terms set herein will continue to exist as the binding agreement between the parties until the execution of formal employment contract"
 
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Butch said:
We have a bad run of 8 years and some of you think the program is over as a result. Unreal.

As people say, win and fans will show up. Simple. If Edsall can't do it, then next.

We'll survive the downtimes. Don't worry.
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This.

As painful an experience as we've been treated to these past few years, this is the truth. Temple? Door mat for years, too the point where the Big East had to kick them out. Back on their feet.

Rutgers. Synonymous with bad football. Not necessarily back on their feet, but not getting shut down anytime soon.

Syracuse. Robinson. Enough said. Yet, they're back in better position.

SMU. The death penalty, for crying out loud. Back to playing for bowl games.

We'll be in good shape two years from now. It's just going to be a painful two years more to get there...
 
zls44 said:
If the choices were between keeping Diaco and hiring Edsall I literally cannot fathom thinking hiring Edsall was the move. It was a bad idea for football and for finances.
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Well ... that just is not very insightful. Diaco was truly awful. World class awful. I think Edsall has a system and can make this work. Unfortunately ... we are stripping things to the bone.
 
Per the letter, the intent was to wrap this up
in 60 days and sign a formal contract. Nearly 2 years later it’s clear someone is acting in bad faith. Does that impact a memo of understanding? Apparently, the Cory thing was not the lone holdup since that’s done and still nothing executed. Randy is certainly not negotiating out of strength now, so the memo is probably the way to go for him.

Reminds me of the Tulsa game. At the end of next year’s regular season, if UConn choose to terminate Randy - UConn would have to pay a 1 million dollar buyout if on or before 11/30/2019 OR pay a $300,000 retention bonus on 12/1 and then terminate him. Who do we pay to write such things?
 
Chief00 said:
Per the letter, the intent was to wrap this up in 60 days and sign a formal contract. Nearly 2 years later it’s clear someone is acting in bad faith. Does that impact a memo of understanding? Apparently, the Cory thing was not the lone holdup since that’s done and still nothing executed. Randy is certainly not negotiating out of strength now, so the memo is probably the way to go for him.
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Almost 8 months into the job I don’t believe Hurley has signed his contract yet either - what’s his hold-up? Is his intent nefarious too?
 
huskymedic said:
Almost 8 months into the job I don’t believe Hurley has signed his contract yet either - what’s his hold-up? Is his intent nefarious too?
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Something doesn’t smell right. This type of stuff isn’t happenstance. With Hurley maybe waiting for NCAA sanction ruling - but people who get paid a lot are not getting things done.
 
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