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Here’s a bombshell

Storrs South said:
Some random twitter account broke the UConn to Big East news on a Friday night so anything is possible
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well in that case does the ACC backfill with UConn and Memphis? or do they only take 1 and poach cincy, wvu, and ucf from the big12? wvu has long desired to be in the acc and it makes more sense for cincy and ucf as well.
 
bendm said:
well in that case does the ACC backfill with UConn and Memphis? or do they only take 1 and poach cincy, wvu, and ucf from the big12? wvu has long desired to be in the acc and it makes more sense for cincy and ucf as well.
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Either the conference gets poached from all 3 directions (Big 12, Big 10, SEC) so much so that Big East COULD absorb basketball centric schools or ACC backfills as you noted. I can't see anyone leaving Big 12 for ACC at this point given power dynamics currently unfolding despite WVU and Cincy historically making sense like UConn.
 
Feel like that was inevitable. If UConn can band together with the ex BE & ACC remains, things could work out
 
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Storrs South said:
Either the conference gets poached from all 3 directions (Big 12, Big 10, SEC) so much so that Big East COULD absorb basketball centric schools or ACC backfills as you noted. I can't see anyone leaving Big 12 for ACC at this point
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true, especially if the big12 adds 4-6 schools from the pac. it would also finally force ND to the B1G. regardless, we still need a solid place to park our football program. sign me up for a 12 member conference comprised of:

Cuse / BC / Pitt / Lville / VT / Duke / Wake / NC St / Gtech / Miami / UConn / Memphis

if the BE wants to merge as olympic only members then it's 12 football schools and 22 bball schools. if the BE doesnt want to merge...well i think leaving for this 12 member football conference is a no brainer over remaining in the BE.

apparently the SEC doesnt want anymore ACC teams. B1G would add ND and possibly Oregon and UW. Big12 wants to add CO, UU, UA, ASU, and possibly Oregon and UW. i think we'd be on relatively solid ground.
 
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bendm said:
true, especially if the big12 adds 4-6 schools from the pac. it would also finally force ND to the B1G. regardless, we still need a solid place to park our football program. sign me up for a 12 member conference comprised of:

Cuse / BC / Pitt / Lville / VT / Duke / Wake / NC St / Gtech / Miami / UConn / Memphis

if the BE wants to merge as olympic only members then it's 12 football schools and 22 bball schools.
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Let's give Kansas a home in our hypothetical conference as well
 
PNolanFan said:
Let's give Kansas a home in our hypothetical conference as well
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not if Big12 succeeds in adding CO, UU, AU, and ASu and possibly even UW and oregon. that's the 3rd super-conference so KU wouldnt leave it.
 
Storrs South said:
Either the conference gets poached from all 3 directions (Big 12, Big 10, SEC) so much so that Big East COULD absorb basketball centric schools or ACC backfills as you noted. I can't see anyone leaving Big 12 for ACC at this point given power dynamics currently unfolding despite WVU and Cincy historically making sense like UConn.
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I don't know why the SEC would take those 4 schools. But if they somehow got out of the GOR, it would be wild. I don't think the B1G wants anybody in the ACC except Virginia and UNC (ND of course). So they'd be out. My guess is they'd backfill, and I do think WVU and Cinci would make the list, and possibly UConn. That would help the Big 12, which needs to expand westward. Not sure where UCF lands, but the ACC would probably want them if they lost FSU.

So UCF, Cinci, WVU, UConn to ACC. Big 12 then expands with most of the PAC and keeps Houston.
 
bendm said:
not if Big12 succeeds in adding CO, UU, AU, and ASu and possibly even UW and oregon. that's the 3rd super-conference so KU wouldnt leave it.
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They wouldn't leave it even if it was K-State, Iowa State, OK state and the current Texas schools. Unless they get a B1G invite, KU isn't splitting from K-State.
 
bendm said:
not if Big12 succeeds in adding CO, UU, AU, and ASu and possibly even UW and oregon. that's the 3rd super-conference so KU wouldnt leave it.
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I think in all likelihood the PAC absorbs the best pieces int he Big 12 (Kansas, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State) because playing Washington State and Oregon State is a better option for the current PAC schools than playing the 4 mid major programs the Big 12 added last summer. The Big 12 really shot themselves in the foot with that one.

But agreed that Kansas to a hypothetical east coast conference is their least likely landing spot.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I do think WVU and Cinci would make the list, and possibly UConn. That would help the Big 12, which needs to expand westward. Not sure where UCF lands, but the ACC would probably want them if they lost FSU.... So UCF, Cinci, WVU, UConn to ACC. Big 12 then expands with most of the PAC and keeps Houston.
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big12 would also keep BYU. as long as UConn gets the ACC invite this time i dont care. but if ACC ends up adding 2 schools i.e. WVU and Cincy. or 4 schools i.e. UCF and memphis, then i might have a stroke.
McLovin said:
I think in all likelihood the PAC absorbs the best pieces int he Big 12 (Kansas, Texas Tech, and Oklahoma State) because playing Washington State and Oregon State is a better option for the current PAC schools than playing the 4 mid major programs the Big 12 added last summer. The Big 12 really shot themselves in the foot with that one.
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everything i've heard and read proclaims that the pac is a dead conference walking. UW and Oregon will never agree to a GOR as theyre leaving at the first chance they get so CO, UU, AU, ASU aren't going to sit around waiting for that shoe to drop.

the big12 on the other hand is already a collection of ugly ducklings which actually lends them valuable stability. as you said, they don't really care about the only schools that could leave for the ACC i.e. ucf and cincy plus maybe wvu.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
I don't know why the SEC would take those 4 schools. But if they somehow got out of the GOR, it would be wild. I don't think the B1G wants anybody in the ACC except Virginia and UNC (ND of course). So they'd be out. My guess is they'd backfill, and I do think WVU and Cinci would make the list, and possibly UConn. That would help the Big 12, which needs to expand westward. Not sure where UCF lands, but the ACC would probably want them if they lost FSU.

So UCF, Cinci, WVU, UConn to ACC. Big 12 then expands with most of the PAC and keeps Houston.
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The biggest concern is if the ACC GOR gets dissolved than you could see some key ACC schools bolt to the B12, notably Va Tech/Miami/Pitt/Louisville. UConn/BC/Duke/Wake/NC State/Ga Tech ain't it...sure we could welcome 5 of them into the BE + Memphis but then what do those 6 do for football? Would need to add 6, and UMass/USF/UNC-Charlotte being 3 of the options is really scary because then you're diluting basketball.
 
bendm said:
true, especially if the big12 adds 4-6 schools from the pac. it would also finally force ND to the B1G. regardless, we still need a solid place to park our football program. sign me up for a 12 member conference comprised of:

Cuse / BC / Pitt / Lville / VT / Duke / Wake / NC St / Gtech / Miami / UConn / Memphis

if the BE wants to merge as olympic only members then it's 12 football schools and 22 bball schools. if the BE doesnt want to merge...well i think leaving for this 12 member football conference is a no brainer over remaining in the BE.

apparently the SEC doesnt want anymore ACC teams. B1G would add ND and possibly Oregon and UW. Big12 wants to add CO, UU, UA, ASU, and possibly Oregon and UW. i think we'd be on relatively solid ground.
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Would be an awesome situation for UConn but not sure how the basketball merger part would work with FOX and ESPN.
 
ThabeetDown said:
The biggest concern is if the ACC GOR gets dissolved than you could see some key ACC schools bolt to the B12
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i guess...if the PAC poaches from the BIG12 they would in turn need to poach from the ACC...that's why we should be rooting for the big12 to poach from the PAC or for them to merge.
 
UConn Dan said:
Surprised this hasn't made over here yet.


From the article:
"Mora has a goal of joining the ACC in a few years. "
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BE media deal is up in 2024-25, hence when we could get out for free...3 years from now, which aligns with Mora's vision...
bendm said:
i guess...if the PAC poaches from the BIG12 they would in turn need to poach from the ACC...that's why we should be rooting for the big12 to poach from the PAC or for them to merge.
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I think the B12 is currently in the position of strength rather than the Pac-12. Their media deal ends in 2025 (same as BE) but P12 is up in 2024. That means P12 teams need to find a home before B12 would. Sure, there is a chance they could wow B12 teams if they get a killer new deal, but I think more likely than not if there is poaching, it's teams coming east not going west. The current and future B12 teams are simply in better markets than the current non-LA P12 teams and thus more attractive for the new TV deal.
 
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huskymedic said:
Free?? Not saying it’s an impediment but there is a cost.

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Smart that the BE put in an exit agreement even with the media deal expiring during that time. Makes it that much more important that the ACC picks up the tab on the whole conference, not just us.
 
ThabeetDown said:
Smart that the BE put in an exit agreement even with the media deal expiring during that time. Makes it that much more important that the ACC picks up the tab on the whole conference, not just us.
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As silly as it sounds I don’t think the catholic 7 will want to lose the name big east. It’s who they are and I don’t think they’d give it up unless the money was otherworldly which it won’t be.
 
huskymedic said:
Free?? Not saying it’s an impediment but there is a cost.

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ACC makes $35M/yr in TV revenue. Even if it gets restructured down to 20M/yr once Clemson/FSU leave then our exit fee is paid off in 2 years. UConn unfortunately is not in a position to be turning down that type of TV revenue
 
tzznandrew said:
Well, seems like that won't be so difficult...
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A Rutgers friend who isn’t actually in alumni? I think the odds would be better if you were searching for unicorns.
 
Most here understand the realignment stuff better than me but I don’t get why football needs to be inextricably tied to the other sports. Ie, couldn’t school revenue be maximized by selling football and basketball (as well as other sports) rights separately?
 
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BGesus4 said:
Most here understand the realignment stuff better than me but I don’t get why football needs to be inextricably tied to the other sports. Ie, couldn’t school revenue be maximized by selling football and basketball (as well as other sports) rights separately?
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I have no idea why this isn't happening. Issue is, if you are the Pac-12, you get USC/UCLA for everything but football? What's the point then.

But, realistically, the two sports are incompatible with one another. I got for having football conferences, then Olympic sports conferences.
 
auror said:
People that think the B1G and SEC are expanding further, tell me why they would add a school whose TV value is less than the median member of their current conference.

As far as I can tell, that would be just diluting the current per school value. Texas, Oklahoma, USC, and UCLA are all in that tier of being more valuable than the bottom half of those top conferences.

But who is left that actually fits that criteria? Notre Dame obviously. And then? Oregon? Clemson & North Carolina probably, but that pesky GOR.

I don't see these super conferences forming. It doesn't serve the interests of the schools that are in there right now from the available options.
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Well, the B1G did add Nebraska but generally you're right
 
ThabeetDown said:
The biggest concern is if the ACC GOR gets dissolved than you could see some key ACC schools bolt to the B12, notably Va Tech/Miami/Pitt/Louisville. UConn/BC/Duke/Wake/NC State/Ga Tech ain't it...sure we could welcome 5 of them into the BE + Memphis but then what do those 6 do for football? Would need to add 6, and UMass/USF/UNC-Charlotte being 3 of the options is really scary because then you're diluting basketball.
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Louder for those in the back: No school in a current P5 is going to join the Big East. It isn't a thing and it's not going to become a thing unless the economics shift to favor independent football. Every single program in the B12, Pac or ACC has more value than any program in the Big East except UConn. By a lot. Some schools not in the P5 are also more valuable, Memphis, Colorado State...
 
NJHusky said:
Only people that care about RU are graduates. Seeing a block R means nothing except that person went to school there
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An on some roadways in Jersey the Block R means I have to pay a toll. A good time to share a finger.
 
Ports21 said:
Well i think his source is wrong or doesn't exist. Why would ESPN renegotiate and wipe out an EXTREMELY favorable ACC contract they have right now?
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Because ESPN/SEC is in an arms race against FOX/B1G and if you dont sign up the most valuable assets to 100M per year deals, the other side will.
 
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