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As an X’s and O’s guy? Not really.Calipari lost to St Peter’s, would you not trust him?
As an X’s and O’s guy? Not really.Calipari lost to St Peter’s, would you not trust him?
I wouldn't trust Calipari with your wallet.Calipari lost to St Peter’s, would you not trust him?
But not as bad as the Naugatuck.Poor Hassan. His commitment thread has become more polluted than the Housatonic River in the 60s & 70s.
Here's what he said:Games are much different than practice. Hurley was calling Samson a pterodactyl and a lottery pick after practices last year and then he never played.
I know what he said. How many lottery picks don't play at all their freshman year?Here's what he said:
“They’re (Hawkins and Johnson) so talented and they have so many traits that project to the NBA level, athletically and from a skill standpoint. They’re going to have a chance to make a big impact. ... Both of those guys have potential to get on the lottery wall here.”
“Samson is what you would hope your stretch four man to look like,” Hurley said. "He’ll eventually be able to guard all five positions. He’s eventually going to be a competent to good 3-point shooter. The stuff he does above the rim, with his cutting and ball screen game, is elite.”
He never said they'd have a big impact last year, and be a lottery pick this year.
He's always worn jackets with the sleeves too long, like a magician. Who knows what he's got up there.I wouldn't trust Calipari with your wallet.
Only this fanbase would have an athletic 6'10" highly rated recruit, who is already elite dunking, scoring at the rim in on cuts and blocking shots, and is above average as ball handler and shooter for his size and would mentally consign him to bench duty because he didn't play much as a freshman over a super senior and junior. People should be excited as hell for this kid to show what he can do. The guy on the team who can improve the most on what he contributed last year isn't Jackson, and it certainly isn't Sanogo. It's Samson Johnson (with Hawkins next in line because we saw him start to show it already).Here's what he said:
“They’re (Hawkins and Johnson) so talented and they have so many traits that project to the NBA level, athletically and from a skill standpoint. They’re going to have a chance to make a big impact. ... Both of those guys have potential to get on the lottery wall here.”
“Samson is what you would hope your stretch four man to look like,” Hurley said. "He’ll eventually be able to guard all five positions. He’s eventually going to be a competent to good 3-point shooter. The stuff he does above the rim, with his cutting and ball screen game, is elite.”
He never said they'd have a big impact last year, and be a lottery pick this year.
Only this fanbase would have an athletic 6'10" highly rated recruit, who is already elite dunking, scoring at the rim in on cuts and blocking shots, and is above average as ball handler and shooter for his size
He didn't get minutes because Hurley had an irrational fascination with Whaley. He should have played much, much more. I think you'll be wrong, to our mutual benefit. He's a much better shooter than Whaley. Shot better than 33% from 3 in HS. I think Akok has better timing on shot blocking, but less length. Both are more natural shot blockers than Sanogo was when he got here, so I expect some improvement. We teach it well. As for ball handling, good for a 6'10" guy is my expectation.We actually don't have much of any evidence of this. He didn't handle the ball in HS. He wasn't a particularly excellent shotblocker in HS (I distinctly remember writing "not nearly as natural of a shotblocker as Akok" when watching his hs games). He definitely was not a great shooter, but developing. I think 30-33% is probably likely... Whaley-ish.
I would absolutely not expect plus ball handling from him at all. Maybe a little baseline drive... he had that in his bag before but it was sloppy.
I think some solid defense with occasional IQ errors, a couple attempts from 3 a game on 30-33%, and some basic backdoor cuts and lobs could be a very effective way to use him. Something like 6 points and 4 rebounds would be GREAT. I don't think you can expect much more from a kid who couldn't earn any meaningful minutes last year. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
Context is important. That Auburn game he played 15 minutes in double overtime when he had 16 points. All those games he got 20+ minutes was when Tyrese was hurt so he was forced to play. Soon as he came back look at the minutes he got.Here is Hawkins's Game Log, the left-most number is minutes.
Even if you ignore the cupcake games, he played 15, 18, 13, 28, and 20 minutes against good teams in November and December.
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100% I really really hope this changes with Castle. He should get 25+ minutes a game out the gate. Ryan Boatright kind of minutes. It shouldn’t take an injury to get it either.OP said to start the season. I think the point is it has often taken Hurley some time to trust the freshman even when they are clearly our top talents.
Apparently you don't know what he said. He didn't call him a lottery pick.I know what he said. How many lottery picks don't play at all their freshman year?
He didn't get minutes because Hurley had an irrational fascination with Whaley. He should have played much, much more. I think you'll be wrong, to our mutual benefit. He's a much better shooter than Whaley. Shot better than 33% from 3 in HS. I think Akok has better timing on shot blocking, but less length. Both are more natural shot blockers than Sanogo was when he got here, so I expect some improvement. We teach it well. As for ball handling, good for a 6'10" guy is my expectation.
I would love for him to be a lottery pick, but Hurley is using "potential" very loosely here.Apparently you don't know what he said. He didn't call him a lottery pick.
Look up the definition of the word "potential", it should help clear up your confusion.
i think he will start over samson/karaban, until conference play at least, and as our 5th option on offense it would be ideal if all he needed to do was catch and shoot open 3s while defending the opposing team's best guard.It’ll be interesting to see what kind of role he plays. I’m banking on being mostly a floor spacer.
I believe what kept him off the floor is his defense. Like Jackson as a freshman, he had a hard time defending without fouling. His first two games he had a combined 15 minutes and 5 fouls.We actually don't have much of any evidence of this. He didn't handle the ball in HS. He wasn't a particularly excellent shotblocker in HS (I distinctly remember writing "not nearly as natural of a shotblocker as Akok" when watching his hs games). He definitely was not a great shooter, but developing. I think 30-33% is probably likely... Whaley-ish.
I would absolutely not expect plus ball handling from him at all. Maybe a little baseline drive... he had that in his bag before but it was sloppy.
I think some solid defense with occasional IQ errors, a couple attempts from 3 a game on 30-33%, and some basic backdoor cuts and lobs could be a very effective way to use him. Something like 6 points and 4 rebounds would be GREAT. I don't think you can expect much more from a kid who couldn't earn any meaningful minutes last year. I'd be happy to be proven wrong though.
Yes, and part of that was Hurley mostly using him as a backup 5. He'd get pushed around (like Akok in the same role) and foul because he gave up position. I do think he will be a backup 5 for us as well as a 4, but I'm hopeful he's put on some muscle and has been practicing against Sanogo.I believe what kept him off the floor is his defense. Like Jackson as a freshman, he had a hard time defending without fouling. His first two games he had a combined 15 minutes and 5 fouls.
His last 7 games he had a combined 18 minutes and 5 fouls.
you mean the guy who has had 20 nba players and can't beat Kansas st, Auburn, St Peter's. Go look at the Kentucky forum after the loss and how many boosters were saying they wouldn't drop another dime on the program if he stayed.Calipari lost to St Peter’s, would you not trust him?
Is Calipari ditching the one and done model? What's it been, 10 years since he won a championship with all the talent he has had?you mean the guy who has had 20 nba players and can't beat Kansas st, Auburn, St Peter's. Go look at the Kentucky forum after the loss and how many boosters were saying they wouldn't drop another dime on the program if he stayed.
But not as bad as the Naugatuck.
I think he’s a better shooter than it looks on paper. If you look at his game-by-game 3 pt. numbers from last year, he seemed to have improved as the season went on - and he isn’t afraid of taking the big shots at the end of games.Bigger land than most think. As pointed out his trajectory was on the up and up, was trusted to play late meaningful minutes. Tough competitive kid who will fit right in. Someone earlier in the thread said he won’t make the rotation. I expect 20+ minutes. What he doesn’t help with, which the team still desperately needs, is shooting. Another shooter, maybe a combo forward or a big wing, has to be the next domino to fall.