Has the gag order been lifted?

[HuskyHawk]

Meh, $10M will test a lot of guys' "classinesss." I will say this though. We now know that KO was given a letter outlining these events a few days before he was fired. His best opportunity to get out of this with some cash in hand was a quick and quiet exit in exchange for a dramatically reduced payout. If his representation was telling him otherwise or suggesting that he hold out for the full $10M they were doing him a huge disservice. The let's crap on a beloved Hall of Fame coach gambit is not going get them a dime and the entire process is trashing what's left of KO reputation.

I wouldn't expect it. But sometimes you need to play the long game. No MLB player with a huge inflated contract that they aren't worth is going to give up the money. Because it won't impact them later. But you see executives and others stepping down all they time and giving up big salaries. They are thinking long term. Employers respect people who hold themselves accountable.

A young-ish coach, who has 30 more years of potential employment and still has a good reputation should have had the wisdom to do what you suggested. Step aside gracefully, admit some mistakes and take a small buyout. Then look for work elsewhere. Now his reputation has taken a further hit, and when UConn bounces back under Hurley he will look even worse.

If he thinks he really was doing the job and trying his best, he needs to see a mental health professional. I think he's got some real problems and is in danger of going down a very dark path. I hate to see that. As much as I wanted him gone, I would have liked to see him land an NBA assistant job and turn things around for himself.

 

[Penfield]

Pen how do you know that UConn didn't offer $5M and KO said no? We have no idea what the exchange was. My guess is that UConn offered something and KO said no. That guess is more or less valid than yours, but they both are just guesses.

True, I can't say for sure that didn't happen.

I guess the question will be if it would have been worth $10 mil to avoid the negative publicity & airing our dirty laundry once again. Will Benedict and Herbst be able to sleep well at night based on the actions they took? Will Ollie? We will probably never know the complete answers.

The way this plays out I think it really would have benefited UConn to reach an agreement with Ollie before all of this stuff had come out. If he wasn't willing to negotiate then there isn't much they could do I guess, but that doesn't let them off the hook in my opinion.

 

[August_West]

Morning Joe led off with it, right before the crying Central American babies.

Also would love to see a 76 year old Calhoun kick the s^^t out of you. Make sure you bring a friend to do the recording.

I'm not scared. I would love him to lay a hand on me . I would then own one of his beachfront houses . I'd let him hit me and not lift a hand.

But let's be real here. He will have me removed before he lays a hand on me. Harboring rats softens men.

 

[BlueMAB]

Did they have all this information already? I thought it only came to light when Miller talked about it in the University’s internal investigation, as a result of which they then self-reported to the NCAA. After that, Miller testified for the NCAA, right?

I'm not sure.

 

[KingAG]

I will be at as many St Joe's games as my schedule allows riding Miller to the point that Calhoun will want to fight me too. And I'm ok with that at this point because he's harboring a rat.

Since when have all you law abiding citizens who’d rat just as quick to save your butts, become Italian mobsters. This is hysterical

 

[Penfield]

Since when have all you law abiding citizens who’d rat just as quick to save your butts become Italian mobsters. This is hysterical

Did the NCAA approach Miller or did he approach the NCAA?

 

[August_West]

Since when have all you law abiding citizens who’d rat just as quick to save your butts become Italian mobsters. This is hysterical

I've never ratted on anyone. And I've been tested.

Have you?

 

[KingAG]

I've never ratted on anyone. And I've been tested.

Have you?

I’ve never had to. I’m a law abiding citizen lol

 

[August_West]

I’ve never had to. I’m a law abiding citizen lol

Bully for you.

 

[huskymedic]

The way this plays out I think it really would have benefited UConn to reach an agreement with Ollie before all of this stuff had come out. If he wasn't willing to negotiate then there isn't much they could do I guess, but that doesn't let them off the hook in my opinion.

It came out via FOIA request by the media? It was coming out sooner or later.

 

[superjohn]

I'm not scared. I would love him to lay a hand on me . I would then own one of his beachfront houses . I'd let him hit me and not lift a hand.

But let's be real here. He will have me removed before he lays a hand on me. Harboring rats softens men.

Yep, you should roll with KO. He might even give you $30K for the Lap Band.

 

[CL82]

The way this plays out I think it really would have benefited UConn to reach an agreement with Ollie before all of this stuff had come out. If he wasn't willing to negotiate then there isn't much they could do I guess, but that doesn't let them off the hook in my opinion.

It's always a value proposition. In this case the question is is the PR worth the money offered? I strongly suspect that UConn's counsel would have offered something. I've said before $4.5M over three years felt like the right number, again though, who knows?

Keep in mind though they weren't buying silence. They were buying a gracious KO walking away with dignity. The narrative would have been something like "I've always tried to do the right thing and helping out the mom of kid who already played for me seemed like the right thing to do. It didn't give me any competitive advantage. But I understand that what that I did violated NCAA rules, though it didn't occur to me at the time. I apologize to all involved, the university and the fans for my mistake." That's has value to UConn and to KO, but the time for that option has passed.

Not sure what you mean letting UConn off the hook. For what?

 

[August_West]

Yep, you should roll with KO. He might even give you $30K for the Lap Band.

Don't need a lap band I'm now 227 down from 28o or so

 

[August_West]

Support the boneyard!!

Here is the boneyard Amazon link to rat headgear to wear to ST Joe's games.


Amazon product ASIN B002BBE0E8

I bought one. I'll buy two more for people who commit to going to a St Joe's games with me.

 

[gwhuskyfan]

True, I can't say for sure that didn't happen.

I guess the question will be if it would have been worth $10 mil to avoid the negative publicity & airing our dirty laundry once again. Will Benedict and Herbst be able to sleep well at night based on the actions they took? Will Ollie? We will probably never know the complete answers.

The way this plays out I think it really would have benefited UConn to reach an agreement with Ollie before all of this stuff had come out. If he wasn't willing to negotiate then there isn't much they could do I guess, but that doesn't let them off the hook in my opinion.

Disagree on the negative publicity -- to the outside they'll get worked up over it for a day. Like when Edsall didn't give a Diaco recruit the scholarship.

 

[8893]

Support the boneyard!!

Here is the boneyard Amazon link to rat headgear to wear to ST Joe's games.


Amazon product ASIN B002BBE0E8

I bought one. I'll buy two more for people who commit to going to a St Joe's games with me.

I’m sending Miller a Cheese of the Month club membership.

 

[kansashusky]

I've never ratted on anyone. And I've been tested.

Have you?

Thank you for making my morning. Bless you for staying strong when you were tested, whatever that means.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

This whole thread is good >>

Very true, it seems clear UConn could not get corroboration on this allegation from Miller or else this would've been point number one in their list of infractions and it would've been game over for KO in this ordeal.

 

[August_West]

@whaler11

You, me, a handle of captains, St Joe's tickets, rat hats.
.
You in? I'm buying.


What could go wrong?

 

[Penfield]

It came out via FOIA request by the media? It was coming out sooner or later.

Right, and if UConn and Ollie had been able to come to an amicable agreement prior to this coming out the PR wouldn't be bad.

 

[August_West]

Thank you for making my morning. Bless you for staying strong when you were tested, whatever that means.

The people who know what that means understand it. I'm.not concerned with the ones that don't.

 

[CL82]

I’m sending Miller a Cheese of the Month club membership.

I will have so much respect for you, if you actually do this.

 

[superjohn]

Don't need a lap band I'm now 227 down from 28o or so

Congrats on being slightly less fat.

 

[tcf15]

 

[Penfield]

Not sure what you mean letting UConn off the hook. For what?

Bad contract negotiations, bad PR, potentially self reporting violations for no other reason than to avoid a buyout. How long did they know about some of this stuff? It sounds like the NCAA might have started sniffing around last fall, but at the Husky Run Benedict assured us everything was on the up and up.

 

[husky429]

I will be at as many St Joe's games as my schedule allows riding Miller to the point that Calhoun will want to fight me too. And I'm ok with that at this point because he's harboring a rat.

Seems a little excessive.

I'll be at plenty of games to watch good basketball, though. If there's a good throwdown with you and Calhoun, I'll throw it up on Worldstar

 

[CL82]

Apparently not.

 

[Penfield]

Disagree on the negative publicity -- to the outside they'll get worked up over it for a day. Like when Edsall didn't give a Diaco recruit the scholarship.

Not if Ollie decides to tell his side of the story. Who knows what he could say about the Calhoun era

 

[CL82]

Bad contract negotiations, bad PR, potentially self reporting violations for no other reason than to avoid a buyout. How long did they know about some of this stuff? It sounds like the NCAA might have started sniffing around last fall, but at the Husky Run Benedict assured us everything was on the up and up.

Well I agree that KO's contract was a one sided nightmare, but for the NCAA violation language.

UConn self-reported in response the NCAA's instruction for all schools to self audit after the FBI NCAA investigation broke. Hard to find fault with that.

 

[August_West]

Congrats on being slightly less fat.

Thanks.

Congrats on being slightly more dumb