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Fishy said:
Yes.

You're a troll without out a shred of self-awareness.

Why are you still here? Isn't there an FSU board out there?
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Fishy....conference realignment boards will get interest from all fans...and we will see things differently. You get frustrated and call names because you don't like what I say....

You don't like it that I am happy to see my team play Notre Dame....because you hate Notre Dame...but I do not.

You don't like the truth that the AAC raided the hell out of CUSA as the ACC did the BE...and that moving "up conference" if given the opportunity is a standard OP.

You not liking it brings about anger and...it is not your narrative....But it is an alternate "truth".

I do post things UConn guys do not like...and some that they do...(my recent thread about the Big Ten and the OSU director claiming expansion).
 
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billybud said:
Notre Dame is a decent team this year and last....

And is great for an opposing team to play for many reasons.

As I said, I look forward to the game.

I understand the hate that former Big Easters reserve for the Irish...but they are what they are.

As granny always said..."You can't blame a weasel for having sharp teeth."
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True, but then again granny might call you a genius for trying to play with the weasel and now you require amputation! Not saying your a genius just suggesting you read between the lines...oh and for the moderator...the lines as on the field of play!
 
billybud said:
I sure am looking forward to the game of my school with the Irish....always fun and should have the house rocking.

We all either love or hate Notre Dame, but for me a win against the Irish is as sweet as any, save Florida.
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Been there. Done that.
 
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Sure,,,for some schools.

It would make sense.

For others, maybe not.
 
billybud said:
Notre Dame is a decent team this year and last....

And is great for an opposing team to play for many reasons.

As I said, I look forward to the game.

I understand the hate that former Big Easters reserve for the Irish...but they are what they are.

As granny always said..."You can't blame a weasel for having sharp teeth."
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Was that before or after she served it for Thanksgiving dinner? Ah the memories. . .
 
billybud said:
Yep...A decent win....but easier to beat a 6-6 Notre Dame in a bad year...then it was in 2012 or 2013.
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Not really. Inflated phony wins of easy teams. That ND team was actually ranked midway through the year. When has ND last impressed? You talking about Lou Holtz? UConn whipped his South Carolina legacy too!
 
itgoeslike said:
FSU was actively looking to upgrade. . .
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Yes its not public but fairly well considered FSU was voted down by Wisky and Mich!?! I think OSU wanted them? I saw it on several(more than 4) fairly well respected boards but we'll never be able to prove it due to the secrecy clause.
 
CoastAtlantic said:
Don't let those arrogant midwest yahoos define who we are. They think they should be in the center of the college sports world.
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I don't let B1G fans make up my decisions on how I view college athletic conferences, but sometimes they are right when you can get past some of the more arrogant fans. I know it sounds like I loathe the ACC. I really don't, but I do question many of the more recent additions.

You are correct on the fact that at least there aren't non-football schools (sans ND) voting on football schools. But ND should not be voting in the capacity that they are. ND should be able to vote on everything except for football. But I lay the blame on the ACC for that one, not ND. So not completely like the Big East, but you have to admit there are not enough large state flagship or land grant schools in the ACC. The lack of them makes the ACC feel more like the Big East now.

The ACC once consisted of only 2 private schools up to 2003. Since then, there are 4.5 more private schools, 1 public ivy school, 1 city commuter school and 1 lone land grant school. Why couldn't the ACC have jumped on the UConn, Rutgers and WVU bandwagon first knowing what we know now?
 
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Cleanface said:
CoastAtlantic is the dumbest/most delusional poster on this board.

Right??
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After catching up on the ACC/UCONN thread (haven't posted in several weeks), I must say that Stimpy and Billybud belong ahead of CA.

HO-LEE-...It's actually sad to watch these three.
 
billybud said:
Fishy....conference realignment boards will get interest from all fans...and we will see things differently. You get frustrated and call names because you don't like what I say....

You don't like it that I am happy to see my team play Notre Dame....because you hate Notre Dame...but I do not.

You don't like the truth that the AAC raided the hell out of CUSA as the ACC did the BE...and that moving "up conference" if given the opportunity is a standard OP.

You not liking it brings about anger and...it is not your narrative....But it is an alternate "truth".

I do post things UConn guys do not like...and some that they do...(my recent thread about the Big Ten and the OSU director claiming expansion).
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If it was possible to set a troll on fire, we would do it and you would be gone.
 
UCONN13KC said:
I think I have finally quit the realignment watch and I am prepared to live in the American Acceptance Conference.
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have some faith. I have it on very good authority that a major conference realignment announcement is going to be made within the next 60 days... or if you're pressed for time within the next 20 minutes, whichever you prefer.
 
billybud said:
Sure,,,for some schools.

It would make sense.

For others, maybe not.
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The truth is FSU, like BC, is actually afraid of UConn. Once UConn takes over the ACC, FSU would just be an afterthought. And that's a fact.
 
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"Reality" is just a shared set of delusions....

Groups will share a common reality....whether awaiting their next reincarnation, or sitting in a little white country Baptist church.

Some realities, like the crew that thought that aliens would whisk them off as Hale-Bopp approached, are on the far edge. The Dude and MH VER are sharing a reality from the planet Dementia.
 
Calamitous said:
I don't let B1G fans make up my decisions on how I view college athletic conferences, but sometimes they are right when you can get past some of the more arrogant fans. I know it sounds like I loathe the ACC. I really don't, but I do question many of the more recent additions.

You are correct on the fact that at least there aren't non-football schools (sans ND) voting on football schools. But ND should not be voting in the capacity that they are. ND should be able to vote on everything except for football. But I lay the blame on the ACC for that one, not ND. So not completely like the Big East, but you have to admit there are not enough large state flagship or land grant schools in the ACC. The lack of them makes the ACC feel more like the Big East now.

The ACC once consisted of only 2 private schools up to 2003. Since then, there are 4.5 more private schools, 1 public ivy school, 1 city commuter school and 1 lone land grant school. Why couldn't the ACC have jumped on the UConn, Rutgers and WVU bandwagon first knowing what we know now?
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The ACC is going to feel like the Big East because it has 5 original members of the Big East Football Conference in it now along with Louisville and Notre Dame, who spent time in the Big East. The ACC is only missing UConn and WVU from having all of the best from the Big East. The ACC feels a bit like the former Metro Conference too with 4 former members of it. It is a lot different than the small 8 school league we once had. But it is now a stronger league than it was then.
 
btstimpy said:
The ACC is going to feel like the Big East because it has 5 original members of the Big East Football Conference in it now along with Louisville and Notre Dame, who spent time in the Big East. The ACC is only missing UConn and WVU from having all of the best from the Big East. The ACC feels a bit like the former Metro Conference too with 4 former members of it. It is a lot different than the small 8 school league we once had. But it is now a stronger league than it was then.
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It's the fractured nature of The ACC that makes it feel like The Big East. Actually, it feels more like the old Big East then it does the traditional ACC. In almost every aspect. There is nothing but your "geography" that keeps it together. Yet, that geography is the most diverse out of any of the major conferences! The ACC is nothing more than a whole bunch of little cliques all banded together. What does a BC alumnus or 'Cuse fan have in common with FSU alumni or Clemson fans? Football? Basketball? Geography? Academics? Culture? None of those, in my opinion. Same with Pitt and Louisville, Miami and Virginia, ND and NCST. Too many different needs to make very one happy. Throw in a school that doesn't put their biggest asset into your conference. Big East with a more splintered geography.
 
dayooper said:
It's the fractured nature of The ACC that makes it feel like The Big East. Actually, it feels more like the old Big East then it does the traditional ACC. In almost every aspect. There is nothing but your "geography" that keeps it together. Yet, that geography is the most diverse out of any of the major conferences! The ACC is nothing more than a whole bunch of little cliques all banded together. What does a BC alumnus or 'Cuse fan have in common with FSU alumni or Clemson fans? Football? Basketball? Geography? Academics? Culture? None of those, in my opinion. Same with Pitt and Louisville, Miami and Virginia, ND and NCST. Too many different needs to make very one happy. Throw in a school that doesn't put their biggest asset into your conference. Big East with a more splintered geography.
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Yes. And despite seven bites at the apple, they didn't even get the best of the Big East - either in terms of markets (Rutgers, UConn) or athletic success (UConn, WVU). Va Tech was a good get, I'll give them that. Ironically they didn't even want Va Tech, UVa forced it on them. Poor judgment all around.
 
Calamitous said:
I don't let B1G fans make up my decisions on how I view college athletic conferences, but sometimes they are right when you can get past some of the more arrogant fans. I know it sounds like I loathe the ACC. I really don't, but I do question many of the more recent additions.

You are correct on the fact that at least there aren't non-football schools (sans ND) voting on football schools. But ND should not be voting in the capacity that they are. ND should be able to vote on everything except for football. But I lay the blame on the ACC for that one, not ND. So not completely like the Big East, but you have to admit there are not enough large state flagship or land grant schools in the ACC. The lack of them makes the ACC feel more like the Big East now.

The ACC once consisted of only 2 private schools up to 2003. Since then, there are 4.5 more private schools, 1 public ivy school, 1 city commuter school and 1 lone land grant school. Why couldn't the ACC have jumped on the UConn, Rutgers and WVU bandwagon first knowing what we know now?
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There are times when you can't have absolutes in college athletics. I'm not a Domer but they're right when they say that the Big East was going to break apart regardless of affiliation. In a way, I could understand the angst of UConn fans. Their experience in the Big East has been one heartache after another, mixed in with the big successes in basketball and other sports, not knowing if a conference mate would come to you with something beneficial or is thinking of stabbing you in the back. However, let's not forget that Virginia Tech had to leave the Big East to go into the ACC. So your school is one of those who "stabbed them in the back." Nothing one can do to smooth hurt feelings in that respect.

Could the ACC have been tougher on ND? I don't know the answer to the question. But what is not up for debate is that the ACC and ND have a mutual interest in working together in counteracting the greed of the resource-intensive conferences. College athletics comprising of only state flagships is BORING. Nothing against flagship schools but not everyone wants to go to a flagship school. That's the beauty of this country. You have private schools and city schools mixed in to the available programs offering athletics.

Would you like it if someone says that VT shouldn't be in Division 1 athletics because you're not UVa? That's basically what those who root for B1G and SEC schools are saying. UConn fans are trying to get out of the AAC, so they're hoping that by taking this position it would help their cause. I don't see that working out for them.

Finally, to your last question, the problem for WVU is that schools like UMD, Duke, UNC and I think UVa had have a block on them. Otherwise, it would have been something to see WVU and Pitt playing again as conference rivals, then UConn playing Maryland, UNC, Duke, Cuse, Ville and UVa yearly in basketball. RU had the jones for the Big 1G for so long it was hell or high water for them. So no big miss there. I would have thought that Mizzou and RU were the gets for that conference but, whatever.
 
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CoastAtlantic said:
However, let's not forget that Virginia Tech had to leave the Big East to go into the ACC. So your school is one of those who "stabbed them in the back."
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Yes, Tech stabbed the Big East in the back... but for good reason. So let's call it even since the Big East took advantage of Tech from the onset. Full BE membership for Tech didn't happen for 10 years until Tranghese became embarrassed having his first official Big East football program play for a National Title who was only a partial conference member. From 1991 to 2000, Tech was shut out by every voting Big East member (including Notre Dame, BC, SU, Pitt, Miami, WVU and UConn) to join in full. When the ACC started picking apart the Big East, SU, BC and Miami were the targets (not Tech). At that moment in time, Tech's president Steger wrote a letter to all the other Big East football university presidents to get a commitment to keep the Big East conference together. Not one single Big East school agreed to or signed it... not one. So Tech went down a very tumultuous path and forced their way into a conference that had consistently turned them down at least 6 times (maybe more) since the 1950s. Tech had tried to get into the ACC for 50 years that that point, as it was always the university's goal. It was ugly situation, but necessary. So I feel bad for UConn getting stiffed by the ACC. From the day I was born to 2003, I hated the ACC just like UConn fans do now. I just hope UConn doesn't have to wait 40 more years for the ACC to accept them if no other offers should come along.

CoastAtlantic said:
Would you like it if someone says that VT shouldn't be in Division 1 athletics because you're not UVa? That's basically what those who root for B1G and SEC schools are saying.
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Tech is a tier 1 school just like UVa, UConn or OSU. It's a large land grant university (larger than UVa) with big research money with a P5 caliber athletic department. So I can't even relate to your comment about how I would feel. Now if I were an ECU, UCF or Houston fan, I wouldn't like it a bit. But as it is, schools like Tech, UConn, Rutgers, ISU have almost as much skin in the game as UVa. UVa is just the pretty girl standing in the center of the crowd.
 
Calamitous said:
Tech is a tier 1 school just like UVa, UConn or OSU. It's a large land grant university (larger than UVa) with big research money with a P5 caliber athletic department. So I can't even relate to your comment about how I would feel. Now if I were an ECU, UCF or Houston fan, I wouldn't like it a bit. But as it is, schools like Tech, UConn, Rutgers, ISU have almost as much skin in the game as UVa. UVa is just the pretty girl standing in the center of the crowd.
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