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OT: Hartford Athletics Possible Drop to D3

Ajs120102 said:
The boards favorite troll actually had the scoop. Credit to him. Pretty damning email but nothing will come of it. Seems that they are full steam ahead
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Just read the article. Sounds like it was a zoom class screen share gone wrong. I’m sorry but that’s just stupid you deserve to get caught if you are sending sketchy emails while you are sharing your screen.
 
Nothing may come of it. But, if the media truly was going to do their job, they would question the UHar president about this continuously until they got an answer. It’s great to get that email. Now, follow up and put him on the spot and make him answer.
 
rollskies said:
Just read the article. Sounds like it was a zoom class screen share gone wrong. I’m sorry but that’s just stupid you deserve to get caught if you are sending sketchy emails while you are sharing your screen.
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Rule #1 when presenting from your computer and are hooked up to a network- Close email, close Skype or whatever, shutoff all notifications.
 
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UCTitleTown said:
I once had a Match.com email popup during a Zoom job interview. I wasn't even using Match (I did a free trial many years ago). Quite embarrassing.
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I use my computer to present quite often. Fortunately I'm usually offline.
Also, our computers do not have cameras which is nice.

When I am online for a presentation I'll have a coworker send me an email or message prior to the start to makele sure it doesn't pop up.

Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.
 
The problem at UHa is simple - it is over priced for the average student in the market and they are over subsidizing student-athletes to maintain D-I teams

Hartford has a sticker price of about $60k (tuition/fees/room & board) - but no one pays that. Why would anyone?

Most students pay closer to $30k a year (53% discount), while student-athletes pay much, much less - closer to $5k (94% discount).

Hartford already has a 75% acceptance rate, so they can't do anything academically to grow enrollment. Moving to a model where those 325 students athletes pay an extra $25k a year will help the books (about $8M a year in new revenue). But they aren't very competitive now in America East now, so its a hard pill to ask the student-athletes to pay more to attend and get better athletes.
 
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Bump. It’s official. I feel very bad for the current student athletes and coaches. I also feel for John Gallagher who did tremendous things for the basketball program this year.
 
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They just sent out an email to students making it official
 

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rollskies said:


Bump. It’s official. I feel very bad for the current student athletes and coaches. I also feel for John Gallagher who did tremendous things for the basketball program this year.
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Gallagher might be able to get another D1 job.
 
UHartford is in a tough spot. With falling enrollment, dropping from D1 to D3 is another signal that the university is in a financial tailspin.
 
UConnJim said:
UHartford is in a tough spot. With falling enrollment, dropping from D1 to D3 is another signal that the university is in a financial tailspin.
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This is going to happen at many other schools. If your not in a power conference where is the money going to come from to run a D1 program?
 
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They should've just come out and said from the start that they wanted to move down. You can read it from the initial assumptions in the report that the current model was unsustainable and they assumed there would be greater costs coming due to NIL legislation. From there it was a matter of spinning the numbers to make an anticipated $2.8M savings look like $9M in savings, while also excluding any consideration for entrance/exit fees.

The crazy thing in their report is the plan for them is that they should actually increase the size of their athletic rosters and offer more sports to get athletes to pay tuition to bolster the enrollment..
 
Slick said:
This is going to happen at many other schools. If your not in a power conference where is the money going to come from to run a D1 program?
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I disagree. UHartford doesn’t have a D1 football program which is a big cash drain. The D1 programs are for marketing the university and this year was a big marketing opportunity for UHartford playing in the NCAA March Madness. Instead, they are attracting attention that they are downgrading their athletic programs. I doubt any kid is thinking “Gee, I should go to UHartford because they are downgrading sports to D3.”
 
CTBasketball said:
I’m not saying this because I’m a Fairfield U alum, but I dislike Sacred Heart. Its like a small annoying little brother to Fairfield with worse academics.

In the heirarchy of smaller CT universities, Fairfield is at the top followed by Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart. Hartford is closer to the bottom.
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There was a time where FAirfield was a better academic institution than Sacred Heart or Quinnipiac. You need to look at it harder today. In its own deep financial trouble, Fairfield is focused on giving up being a mid-tier liberal arts school and is focused on being a glorified trade school focused on nursing and business. While QU and SHU are still focused on growing the breadth of an education you can get there.
 
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UConnJim said:
I disagree. UHartford doesn’t have a D1 football program which is a big cash drain. The D1 programs are for marketing the university and this year was a big marketing opportunity for UHartford playing in the NCAA March Madness. Instead, they are attracting attention that they are downgrading their athletic programs. I doubt any kid is thinking “Gee, I should go to UHartford because they are downgrading sports to D3.”
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If someone has a single example of a non-elite school moving from D-1 to D-3 and turning around their fortune as a college or university, I’d be glad to hear about it. Who does UHa think they are going to play in Division 3? It’s not like Trinity and Wesleyan are going to be scheduling them once NESCAC begins conference play.
 
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businesslawyer said:
If someone has a single example of a non-elite school moving from D-1 to D-3 and turning around their fortune as a college or university, I’d be glad to hear about it. Who does UHa think they are going to play in Division 3? It’s not like Trinity and Wesleyan are going to be scheduled them once NESCAC begins conference play.
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They will probably try to join the LEC I guess, but not sure the LEC would want them.
 
That stinks, especially after winning the America East and three straight offseasons of bringing in good talent, even some solid transfers.

Gallagher seems like a great guy too.
 
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businesslawyer said:
There was a time where FAirfield was a better academic institution than Sacred Heart or Quinnipiac. You need to look at it harder today. In its own deep financial trouble, Fairfield is focused on giving up being a mid-tier liberal arts school and is focused on being a glorified trade school focused on nursing and business. While QU and SHU are still focused on growing the breadth of an education you can get there.
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This is completely wrong on all accounts.

Outside of a law program, QU and SHU are basically the same school. They attract over-performing private high school kids who can’t get into Fairfield, Fordham, Holy Cross, Providence, etc.

QU and Sacred Heart accept nearly 75% of their applicants. Fairfield has a world renowned business school, as well as a great nursing school. Trade school? No way.
 
CTBasketball said:
This is completely wrong on all accounts.

Outside of a law program, QU and SHU are basically the same school. They attract over-performing private high school kids who can’t get into Fairfield, Fordham, Holy Cross, Providence, etc.

QU and Sacred Heart accept nearly 75% of their applicants. Fairfield has a world renowned business school, as well as a great nursing school. Trade school? No way.
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You forgot QU Medical School.
 
CTBasketball said:
This is completely wrong on all accounts.

Outside of a law program, QU and SHU are basically the same school. They attract over-performing private high school kids who can’t get into Fairfield, Fordham, Holy Cross, Providence, etc.

QU and Sacred Heart accept nearly 75% of their applicants. Fairfield has a world renowned business school, as well as a great nursing school. Trade school? No way.
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Is Fairfield more prestigious, and still able to attract more students. Yes. But it's living off it's past. The rest of your post made my point completely. It's great to have a great nursing school. We need good nurses. But training nurses is nothing like training well rounded and intellectually curious college students. Is Dolan good, for an institution of Fairfield's quality? Yes. That is the school's biggest asset. But they are moving away from being a true college, and towards training people for jobs in these two particular fields.

I'm glad you are a proud alum, but I'm not making this stuff up. I live in town. This is what I'm hearing from trustees, employees and grown ups who attend classes in Fairfield's "lifetime learning" program.
 
Long before the internet, the glut of cable sports channels, Uhart decided to jump from D3 to D1 sports. At the time UCONN was in a moribund condition. Jim Calhoun had just taken over, but UC was not where it is today. There was no Gampel, as we all know most of the home games were in the decrepit Field House. The Hartford Civic Center's roof had fallen in, and the rebuilding effort was going on, and even some games were played in the old New Haven Coliseum. UC was at the bottom of the Big East. Many fans thought that UHart's program would take off. I was one of them. Here we are today, and UC is a national power, with a number of National championships under it's belt, a number of former players are in the NBA, and some are even head coaches. One has to ask WHY UHart's progam never got off the ground? It's an interesting question to be discussing.
 
CTBasketball said:
This is completely wrong on all accounts.

Outside of a law program, QU and SHU are basically the same school. They attract over-performing private high school kids who can’t get into Fairfield, Fordham, Holy Cross, Providence, etc.

QU and Sacred Heart accept nearly 75% of their applicants. Fairfield has a world renowned business school, as well as a great nursing school. Trade school? No way.
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World renowned business school is a massive stretch. It's not even ranked on USNews lol. Maybe in the northeast it's well known, but it doesn't have a national brand at all.

I graduated from UConn's school of business which is ranked #60 and even I wouldn't consider them to be world renowned. UConn still gets almost no respect from anywhere on the Street
 
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