Happy that Donovan Williams is playing now!

[Ready4action]

All the negative bloggers once again can eat pig sh## this kid is legit and is proving that daily. The fan base for this school is the worst. Most of you are over the hill and pathetic and are close to the end anyways. One clown post a picture of a throwing motion and compares it to baseball you have clue about football or nor being a QB. When this kid turns this program around please go away.

 

[Stainmaster]

All the negative bloggers once again can eat pig sh## this kid is legit and is proving that daily. The fan base for this school is the worst. Most of you are over the hill and pathetic and are close to the end anyways. One clown post a picture of a throwing motion and compares it to baseball you have clue about football or nor being a QB. When this kid turns this program around please go away.

This isn't the best strategy to get us to improve our opinion of your child's football ability.

 

[Ready4action]

This isn't the best strategy to get us to improve our opinion of your child's football ability.

My child you are an idiot! Folk are reaching and desperate however I did meet his parents today and they are certainly proud of there son and should be. As for you stairmaster I am sure you are proud of something even in your pathetic world.

 

[DefCONNOne]

My child you are an idiot! Folk are reaching and desperate however I did meet his parents today and they are certainly proud of there son and should be. As for you stairmaster I am sure you are proud of something even in your pathetic world.

Folks, not folk. Their, not there.

Prof. DefCONN grades this a D!!

 

[gtcam]

All the negative bloggers once again can eat pig sh## this kid is legit and is proving that daily. The fan base for this school is the worst. Most of you are over the hill and pathetic and are close to the end anyways. One clown post a picture of a throwing motion and compares it to baseball you have clue about football or nor being a QB. When this kid turns this program around please go away.

Put the booze down buddy - don't continue making a clown out of yourself

 

[kris1]

All the negative bloggers once again can eat pig sh## this kid is legit and is proving that daily. The fan base for this school is the worst. Most of you are over the hill and pathetic and are close to the end anyways. One clown post a picture of a throwing motion and compares it to baseball you have clue about football or nor being a QB. When this kid turns this program around please go away.

This is a forum, not a blog. I'm not over the hill, although I have been the king of one. I'm the clown (like your avatar) who compared his throwing motion. Contrary to what you may believed, I have coached both sports (very successfully leading teams to state championship titles in both) and understand that there is a vast difference in the throwing mechanics of each and why there has to be. DW has flaws in his mechanics. I apologize if that hurt your feelings. That doesn't mean he can't clean that up or that he won't become a great college QB. It means, he wasn't ready to play this year, behind this offensive line, at this point in the season, for a head coach who has no idea what he's doing. But, cheer up....nobody likes a sad clown.

 

[Jimdish255]

I've been debating posting this because of lack of credibility. But I guess it doesn't really matter if nobody believes, so I'll just write it.

The Sunday after DW first start, I had a chance to speak to one of the players about the team.

The most noteworthy takeaways I got were this. Diaco's story about Williams coming to him, telling him he was ready to play, was completely fabricated(Also worth noting BS was understandably pissed about it). On the brighter side, he also mentioned that the team has not quit on Diaco, that the players are at fault for our mess.

Take this FWIW.

I hadn't seen this until now, and I understand none of this may be true. Even without today's disaster I have to ask, If BD made this up and put other guys on the spot for his decisions, what else has he been making up? Is he fudging, scapegoating, or just a pathological liar?

I'll be honest here. If he's been lying to us and the press that sucks. If he's told the same lies to our AD that's grounds for dismissal.

 

[whaler11]

I hadn't seen this until now, after getting back from the BC. Even without today's disaster I have to ask, If BD made this up and put other guys on the spot for his decisions, what else has he been making up? Is he fudging, scapegoating, or just a pathological liar?

I'll be honest here. If he's been lying to us and the press that sucks. If he's told the same lies to our AD that's grounds for dismissal.

He is a pathological liar. This has been clear almost since day 1. I'm glad people are finally seeing the light.

 

[Jimdish255]

He is a pathological liar. This has been clear almost since day 1. I'm glad people are finally seeing the light.

It bugged me when he pinned the late game Navy fiasco on the OL but this takes things to a different level.

 

[whaler11]

It bugged me when he pinned the late game Navy fiasco on the OL but this takes things to a different level.

It goes way back before this year. Actually goes all the way back to Notre Dame.

 

[Skiblets]

It goes way back before this year. Actually goes all the way back to Notre Dame.

And the Mante Teo situation

 

[whaler11]

And the Mante Teo situation

That was the main thing I was referring to at Notre Dame. God the threads here about that whole mess were tremendous.

 

[Confident Carl]

If DW was a baseball player, this is the "equal-opposite" throwing motion you're looking for, hands breaking down and away from the body. As a D1 football QB.....not so much.

An astute sports kenisiologist with An ounce of humanity wouldn't pick on a true freshman Quarterback playing in his second friggan game in an offensive system that isn't equal to some high school programs I've seen. Donovan Williams can throw the football. Let's give the young man the opportunity to make a few mistakes before tourching him.

 

[kris1]

....And let's be honest the offense has score ZERO points in his two starts.

DW's stat line...
25/50. 196 yds, 9 sac, 6 turnovers

Not exactly an upgrade. It was unfair of HCBD to make this kid the savior, not only of the program but also his job. It was a desperate coach, making a desperate move. Unfortunately, DW will now be the scapegoat for the real issue with this program, Bob Diaco. The staff completely abandoned the running game today and put it all on William's shoulders. He wasn't ready, not his fault.

 

[whaler11]

An astute sports kenisiologist with An ounce of humanity wouldn't pick on a true freshman Quarterback playing in his second friggan game in an offensive system that isn't equal to some high school programs I've seen. Donovan Williams can throw the football. Let's give the young man the opportunity to make a few mistakes before tourching him.

Have some self-respect: Your guy Diaco shouldn't be a head coach. Williams should not be on the field for an FBS team. He threw 7 interceptions today - Boston College was kind enough to drop 4 of them.

 

[Confident Carl]

Have some self-respect: Your guy Diaco shouldn't be a head coach. Williams should not be on the field for an FBS team. He threw 7 interceptions today - Boston College was kind enough to drop 4 of them.

I was at the game and experienced the futility. It was hard to watch. Enough with the lecture. Regardless of what happens with the coaching staff there is a strong likelihood that DW will be the starting quarterback next season and I have not changed from my original intent on this thread - I am happy that Donovan Williams he will have three FBS college games experience going into the 2017. It may hurt everyone now but will pay dividends for next season. The team is in a tough spot. This season was lost a long time ago. There is no pre season in college football.

 

[kris1]

An astute sports kenisiologist with An ounce of humanity wouldn't pick on a true freshman Quarterback playing in his second friggan game in an offensive system that isn't equal to some high school programs I've seen. Donovan Williams can throw the football. Let's give the young man the opportunity to make a few mistakes before tourching him.

Not saying he can't throw Carl, but his mechanics need to be cleaned up. That's a long motion to throw a football. It's not conducive for a quick release. He sepeartes his hands too early.

Love that Chad Pennington relates throwing a football to HITTING a baseball, not throwing it. Where you want to separate you hands early @Ready4Action.

 

[huskymedic]

If DW was a baseball player, this is the "equal-opposite" throwing motion you're looking for, hands breaking down and away from the body. As a D1 football QB.....not so much.

An astute sports kenisiologist with An ounce of humanity wouldn't pick on a true freshman Quarterback playing in his second friggan game in an offensive system that isn't equal to some high school programs I've seen. Donovan Williams can throw the football. Let's give the young man the opportunity to make a few mistakes before tourching him.

Where did he "torch" him -- he pointed out a mechanical flaw (a lot of quality QBs have mechanical issues to tweak time to time). The mechanics @kris1 pointed out cause the ball to fly high to target in my experience - no different than a third baseman or pitcher with the same throwing motion kink. Can be fixed through repetitions (not necessarily game repetitions).

 

[Ready4action]

Even more pathetic we have a 2 time state champion HS Coach on here criticizing a kid. Please tell me where your QBs landed.

This is a forum, not a blog. I'm not over the hill, although I have been the king of one. I'm the clown (like your avatar) who compared his throwing motion. Contrary to what you may believed, I have coached both sports (very successfully leading teams to state championship titles in both) and understand that there is a vast difference in the throwing mechanics of each and why there has to be. DW has flaws in his mechanics. I apologize if that hurt your feelings. That doesn't mean he can't clean that up or that he won't become a great college QB. It means, he wasn't ready to play this year, behind this offensive line, at this point in the season, for a head coach who has no idea what he's doing. But, cheer up....nobody likes a sad clown.

This is a forum, not a blog. I'm not over the hill, although I have been the king of one. I'm the clown (like your avatar) who compared his throwing motion. Contrary to what you may believed, I have coached both sports (very successfully leading teams to state championship titles in both) and understand that there is a vast difference in the throwing mechanics of each and why there has to be. DW has flaws in his mechanics. I apologize if that hurt your feelings. That doesn't mean he can't clean that up or that he won't become a great college QB. It means, he wasn't ready to play this year, behind this offensive line, at this point in the season, for a head coach who has no idea what he's doing. But, cheer up....nobody likes a sad clown.

Interesting. Please tell the state in which these state titles come from

 

[Confident Carl]

Where did he "torch" him -- he pointed out a mechanical flaw (a lot of quality QBs have mechanical issues to tweak time to time). The mechanics @kris1 pointed out cause the ball to fly high to target in my experience - no different than a third baseman or pitcher with the same throwing motion kink. Can be fixed through repetitions (not necessarily game repetitions).

He didn't torch him, that was just the kindling wood, sooner or later the rest of the characters on the boneyard will finish the job.

 

[Carl Spackler]

That kid is as ready to play QB as DIaco is to be a head coach.

 

[kris1]

Even more pathetic we have a 2 time state champion HS Coach on here criticizing a kid. Please tell me where your QBs landed.


Interesting. Please tell the state in which these state titles come from

Clearly your reading comprehension is not so good. I never criticized the kid or his potential. I pointed out a flaw in his throwing mechanics. I'm criticizing Bob Diaco who put DW in a position to fail to save his own ass. He wasn't ready. My post had nothing to do with who or where I coached, but that I have a knowledge in the biomechanics of both skills and both sports. My background is in Exercise Science-Human Performance. No, my degree is not from Clown College.

 

[Confident Carl]

That kid is as ready to play QB as DIaco is to be a head coach.

Exactly, but will be more ready on 8/31/2017

 

[BlueDogs]

Anyone with an eye can determine Donovan is not the answer. He might have been special in high school but there are plenty of kids who just can't adjust to the speed at the next level. Talented QBs have a way of showing up and having an impact (even if spotty and having in experience mistakes). Donovan is slow, has no running instinct or elusiveness, has an inaccurate arm, and no pocket feel or field vision. There is nothing there that I can see. He has no play making instinct. He probably can be made into BS level QB with reps, but he is not the spark for the program.

 

[Confident Carl]

Not saying he can't throw Carl, but his mechanics need to be cleaned up. That's a long motion to throw a football. It's not conducive for a quick release. He sepeartes his hands too early.

Love that Chad Pennington relates throwing a football to HITTING a baseball, not throwing it. Where you want to separate you hands early @Ready4Action.

Fair enough, and hopefully he will work on throwing motion and all aspects during the off season. His Dad played QB in college so He has the genes.