Happy that Donovan Williams is playing now!

[huskymedic]

So let me make sure I have this right, Lagow left because he saw himself getting lots of opportunities? We lost good quarterbacks who were never gonna get a chance or who never got a chance. THATS the point.

He was a true freshman, recruited by the previous coach and transfers before the season starts to be closer to home (or didn't want to compete depending on narrative) - so Diaco plays DW w/ 3 games left to avoid that happening again? Yeah, that's a similar situation.

Hey, the WBB team only won by 2 points tonight so in today's world - anything is possible I guess.

 

[JMick]

He was a true freshman, recruited by the previous coach and transfers before the season starts to be closer to home (or didn't want to compete depending on narrative) - so Diaco plays DW w/ 3 games left to avoid that happening again? Yeah, that's a similar situation.

Hey, the WBB team only won by 2 points tonight so in today's world - anything is possible I guess.

And the men might go 0-2 for the first time in 50 years. Bad time to be a UConn sports fan

 

[Confident Carl]

He was a true freshman, recruited by the previous coach and transfers before the season starts to be closer to home (or didn't want to compete depending on narrative) - so Diaco plays DW w/ 3 games left to avoid that happening again? Yeah, that's a similar situation.

Hey, the WBB team only won by 2 points tonight so in today's world - anything is possible I guess.

I don't care why the left, they left and don't want to see the same thing
happen to Donovan Williams.

"UCONN is at least grabbing 3-star QBs more regularly since Edsall left, signing five among the classes of 2011, 2012 and 2013. But it’s also telling that of those five, the two most successful careers belong to the two quarterbacks who transferred elsewhere (Michael Nebrich, an FCS star at Fordham, and Richard Lagow, last seen beating Michigan State as Indiana’s starter)" - Michael Meacham quoted in a dime back

 

[Jimdish255]

Can we have some happy talk please!?! Just got back from the Hoops Board and I'm feeling kinda low.

 

[Ldandy]

This is pure speculation But as a side to the discussion of to burn or not to burn, the thought occurred to me that if I was DW father after watching arguably the worst offense in FBS this year and I got any inkling that my son was sitting behind BS in 2017, I would probably recommend that he finds a better program or at least go the JC route like Lagow did and who is currently the starting QB at Indiana. Forget about saving DW's Red Shirt, for all we know by naming DW the stater Diaco may have saved DW from leaving the program entirely. Again just a guess but it happened with Michael Nebrich, Richard Lagow and Kivon Taylor and if DW was not given the opportunity to start, given his talent and upside, it may have been Sayonara baby!

The New Haven Register Blogs: Ramblings from The Runway: QB Taylor leaves UConn

Soph QB Nebrich leaves UConn football team

Freshman QB Richard Lagow Leaving UConn; Heads To Oklahoma State » True Blue UConn

A couple things.

If Diaco actually allowed a freshman and his father to dictate personnel decisions with veiled threats of transfer then he is a complete eunuch. What kind of precedent would that set with your team? If Williams is terrible next season will that year's freshman class QB demand to start or he'll transfer as well? What about the kids that aren't playing for next year? Shouldn't the coach give them the best opportunity to win? Is that playing a completely green Williams right now?

More to the point, what leverage would Williams actually have in threatening a transfer? If Diaco wanted to be a d*** he could block his transfer requests to certain schools. Besides the fact where could he actually go? He only had a handful of small program scholarship offers out of HS, and based on his body of work to date, who is actually going to recruit him? He'd likely end up at an FCS Program or Juco.

Is ending up at a JC with the potential to transfer to a program like ISU, KU or Indiana really an improvement over staying at Uconn? The overwhelming majority of these kids have no future in football after college. If he was actually entertaining these thoughts he better start using his head for something other than holding up his helmet. JMO but Williams is not starting because he gives the team the best chance to win. He's not starting because he walked into the coach's office and said "I'm ready." From the outside it looks like the act of a coach out of answers and desperate to create some buzz around the program. Maybe a few thousand more fans come to the next game to see the young kid, maybe the AD lets me keep my job.

 

[Confident Carl]

A couple things.

If Diaco actually allowed a freshman and his father to dictate personnel decisions with veiled threats of transfer then he is a complete eunuch. What kind of precedent would that set with your team? If Williams is terrible next season will that year's freshman class QB demand to start or he'll transfer as well? What about the kids that aren't playing for next year? Shouldn't the coach give them the best opportunity to win? Is that playing a completely green Williams right now?

More to the point, what leverage would Williams actually have in threatening a transfer? If Diaco wanted to be a d*** he could block his transfer requests to certain schools. Besides the fact where could he actually go? He only had a handful of small program scholarship offers out of HS, and based on his body of work to date, who is actually going to recruit him? He'd likely end up at an FCS Program or Juco.

Is ending up at a JC with the potential to transfer to a program like ISU, KU or Indiana really an improvement over staying at Uconn? The overwhelming majority of these kids have no future in football after college. If he was actually entertaining these thoughts he better start using his head for something other than holding up his helmet. JMO but Williams is not starting because he gives the team the best chance to win. He's not starting because he walked into the coach's office and said "I'm ready." From the outside it looks like the act of a coach out of answers and desperate to create some buzz around the program. Maybe a few thousand more fans come to the next game to see the young kid, maybe the AD lets me keep my job.

Look, I made a point about keeping DW in Storrs and referenced past history of QB's opting out to frame my concerns which I myself termed speculation. Chandler Whitmer ended up at UCONN because he didn't see a future at Illinois. He ended up going the JC route at Butler. Not saying anyone is dictating to Diaco or anyone is making threats. Subtle hints based on expectations maybe but with playing time, I agree with you there are never guarantees. For sure coaches shouldn't play kids due to politics. If you have ever coached youth sports (and I have plenty) you know how involved parents can be.

Intelligent big, fast dual threat QB's may have a bit more leverage. There is a higher demand here. BS's lackluster performance coupled with DW's resume and development are reasons for my concerns. If not given the right opportunity I could see him transferring next year. Some posters like you think it's a HUGE stretch but I don't.

Your claim of desperation on Diaco's part to create some "buzz" to me may be a bit of a stretch, although I do understand your reasoning. Truth is , we are talking about Diaco's decision to burn the red shirt. I am more motivated to travel to Boston because of it, yet I don't believe BD is starting DW for that reason. It's all about turning UCONN into a winning program.

Not saying DW's dad is like this but remember Alex Oriakhis' Dad and his transfer to Missouri. Different situation but when it came to his kids future he was very much involved. Parents and prior coaches should and do influence their children. Having said that, AO's Dad was over the top in this case.

Alex Oriakhi's father calls for Jim Calhoun to be fired

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

@temery this board can really use a nonsense filter.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Look, I made a point about keeping DW in Storrs and referenced past history of QB's opting out to frame my concerns which I myself termed speculation. Chandler Whitmer ended up at UCONN because he didn't see a future at Illinois. He ended up going the JC route at Butler. Not saying anyone is dictating to Diaco or anyone is making threats. Subtle hints based on expectations maybe but with playing time, I agree with you there are never guarantees. For sure coaches shouldn't play kids due to politics. If you have ever coached youth sports (and I have plenty) you know how involved parents can be.

Intelligent big, fast dual threat QB's may have a bit more leverage. There is a higher demand here. BS's lackluster performance coupled with DW's resume and development are reasons for my concerns. If not given the right opportunity I could see him transferring next year. Some posters like you think it's a HUGE stretch but I don't.

Your claim of desperation on Diaco's part to create some "buzz" to me may be a bit of a stretch, although I do understand your reasoning. Truth is , we are talking about Diaco's decision to burn the red shirt. I am more motivated to travel to Boston because of it, yet I don't believe BD is starting DW for that reason. It's all about turning UCONN into a winning program.

Not saying DW's dad is like this but remember Alex Oriakhis' Dad and his transfer to Missouri. Different situation but when it came to his kids future he was very much involved. Parents and prior coaches should and do influence their children. Having said that, AO's Dad was over the top in this case.

Alex Oriakhi's father calls for Jim Calhoun to be fired

Carl you seem like a good enough guy but your positions on this topic are complete nonsense.

 

[Confident Carl]

Carl you seem like a good enough guy but your positions on this topic are complete nonsense.

What is nonsense and quite frankly, really funny to me are the characters on the Boneyard who get their rocks off throwing insults like this because someone is willing to share a position that doesn't line up with theirs.

Don't get me wrong, I think there are some really intelligent, well informed posters. It's these kind of flippant reactions that puzzle me.
Really intelligent people don't normally respond in this fashion. It's sarcastic responses like this that lead to losing in life. I also get that
the wise cracks kind of jack you up a little #internet bullying.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

What is nonsense and quite frankly, really funny to me are the characters on the Boneyard who get their rocks off throwing insults like this because someone is willing to share a position that doesn't line up with theirs.

Don't get me wrong, I think there are some really intelligent, well informed posters. It's these kind of flippant reactions that puzzle me.
Really intelligent people don't normally respond in this fashion. It's sarcastic responses like this that lead to losing in life. I also get that
the wise cracks kind of jack you up a little #internet bullying.

If saying that you're a nice guy but your opinion is based on nonsense constitutes internet bullying, perhaps a message board isn't quite for you?

 

[freescooter]

Disclaimer we all here things and report it as solid information.

Well, not all. Some of us hear things.

 

[Ready4action]

I think it was a stretch to speculate about the kids father pushing buttons to get his son playing time it don't quite work that way Carl. Multi million dollar program getting bullied by a parent not likely. I simply believe that BS created a huge opening to lose the spot. A baby on the way getting engaged class work where does football fit in. The same goes of Anderson he is married with a child as well. God bless them but all that is a bit too much!

 

[Confident Carl]

If saying that you're a nice guy but your opinion is based on nonsense constitutes internet bullying, perhaps a message board isn't quite for you?

I think it was a stretch to speculate about the kids father pushing buttons to get his son playing time it don't quite work that way Carl. Multi million dollar program getting bullied by a parent not likely. I simply believe that BS created a huge opening to lose the spot. A baby on the way getting engaged class work where does football fit in. The same goes of Anderson he is married with a child as well. God bless them but all that is a bit too much!

This should be an idea board. Sometimes ideas and suggestions are taken as facts. This thread started with my
agreement in playing DW now, knowing full well the repercussions from certain characters on the BY. You see on this board Commandment #1 is Thou shalt not burn a Freshman QB's Red Shirt. In so doing do one must face the BY college of Cardinals!LOL!

I also suggested that not playing DW could result in him leaving the program and went on to say the if I were his father and didn't see a clear path to him playing soon, that I might advise him to pack his bags. I backed my thoughts by three major programs that successfully started true freshmen QB's in 2016 . I also highlighted 3 QB's who have left our program in recent years. I never once said the DW father pushed any buttons nor was he bullying the Multi million dollar program. I merely suggested it is something that I might do. Professional players have agents, student athletes have parents.

The reference to bullying has to do with a style of sarcasm that has existed on this board for a long time. I'm used to it
but every once in a while you have to call the culprits out. The reactions are always very predictable.

Let's see how Donovan handles himself against BC. As one poster stated the decision has been made.

 

[J187Money]

I am more motivated to travel to Boston because of it

I'm probably not going to go to Boston now. Given what our offense looked like v. Temple, I saw nothing to indicate that it will be any better against BC. Given the data we have, believing anything else is just faith (granted, it is a sample of one).

I'm not suggesting that DW might not be great, and ultimately these 3 games might be huge with regards to his development, but that doesn't mean that this game will be watchable. And yes, the decision has been made. I'm not asking to play BS this weekend.

I will be at the Tulane game, because it is a home game, and I'm not traveling, so I will go because that's what I do. But I don't think I can drive to Boston to watch what I believe could be YET ANOTHER game where we don't score an offensive touchdown.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

This should be an idea board. Sometimes ideas and suggestions are taken as facts. This thread started with my
agreement in playing DW now, knowing full well the repercussions from certain characters on the BY. You see on this board Commandment #1 is Thou shalt not burn a Freshman QB's Red Shirt. In so doing do one must face the BY college of Cardinals!LOL!

I also suggested that not playing DW could result in him leaving the program and went on to say the if I were his father and didn't see a clear path to him playing soon, that I might advise him to pack his bags. I backed my thoughts by three major programs that successfully started true freshmen QB's in 2016 . I also highlighted 3 QB's who have left our program in recent years. I never once said the DW father pushed any buttons nor was he bullying the Multi million dollar program. I merely suggested it is something that I might do. Professional players have agents, student athletes have parents.

The reference to bullying has to do with a style of sarcasm that has existed on this board for a long time. I'm used to it
but every once in a while you have to call the culprits out. The reactions are always very predictable.

Let's see how Donovan handles himself against BC. As one poster stated the decision has been made.

It's not as much about burning a RS as it is that he obviously was not ready to play and the timing couldn't possibly be worse.

As far as DW threatening to leave? LMAO. If that's why he played him he should be fired on the spot.

You need to develop thicker skin. You're not in an echo chamber and this isn't a Pop Warner football board.

 

[Confident Carl]

It's not as much about burning a RS as it is that he obviously was not ready to play and the timing couldn't possibly be worse.

As far as DW threatening to leave? LMAO. If that's why he played him he should be fired on the spot.

You need to develop thicker skin. You're not in an echo chamber and this isn't a Pop Warner football board.

So you either want to see a replay of Donovan Williams very first game against Holy Cross on 8/31/2017 or another year of Bryant Shirreffs. Pick your poison!

 

[BlueMAB]

So you either want to see a replay of Donovan Williams very first game against Holy Cross on 8/31/2017 or another year of Bryant Shirreffs. Pick your poison!

Completely false and intellectually dishonest choice.

We don't know how DW would have looked against Holy Cross. Considering the competition, the added time in practice, film room, and the weight room, it's unlikely that we would have seen the same deer in the headlights that we saw against Temple.

And

Virtually nobody is arguing for another year of BS whether or not we agree with Diaco's decision to start him.

I think BS is better than people give him credit for. He's not a terrible QB, he's average at best. We don't win a game this season with a "terrible QB". It really can't be overstated how bad our OL is. But now it's DW's team. If the OL "blocks" for him the same way they did BS, he's going to (continue to) look terrible too.

 

[Confident Carl]

Completely false and intellectually dishonest choice.

We don't know how DW would have looked against Holy Cross. Considering the competition, the added time in practice, film room, and the weight room, it's unlikely that we would have seen the same deer in the headlights that we saw against Temple.

And

Virtually nobody is arguing for another year of BS whether or not we agree with Diaco's decision to start him.

I think BS is better than people give him credit for. He's not a terrible QB, he's average at best. We don't win a game this season with a "terrible QB". It really can't be overstated how bad our OL is. But now it's DW's team. If the OL "blocks" for him the same way they did BS, he's going to (continue to) look terrible too.

So you are going on record as saying you are okay with Donovan Williams first game as a starter would be the Holy Cross game?
You know he will be ready to go after lifting weights, practice and watching film. No deer in the headlights because it's only Holy Cross and no benefit in him getting three D-1 games under his belt. Now do you know that for a fact or is it just your opinion? Furthermore do you know he will look terrible if the O Line blocks like they did for BS or is that again your opinion? Which by the way you are perfectly entitled to but please don't pass that off as intellectual honesty.

I personally prefer three college games under his belt plus all of the above.

Finally, regarding your comment "I think BS is better than people give him credit for". I never said he was terrible. I have been quite complementary of his work ethic and toughness but regarding your comment, does "people" include the coaching staff at North Carolina State?

 

[J187Money]

So you are going on record as saying you are okay with Donovan Williams first game as a starter would be the Holy Cross game?
You know he will be ready to go after lifting weights, practice and watching film. No deer in the headlights because it's only Holy Cross and no benefit in him getting three D-1 games under his belt. Now do you know that for a fact or is it just your opinion? Furthermore do you know he will look terrible if the O Line blocks like they did for BS or is that again your opinion? Which by the way you are perfectly entitled to but please don't pass that off as intellectual honesty.

I personally prefer three college games under his belt plus all of the above.

Finally, regarding your comment "I think BS is better than people give him credit for". I never said he was terrible. I have been quite complementary of his work ethic and toughness but regarding your comment, does "people" include the coaching staff at North Carolina State?

If I knew we would be 3-9 this year I would have preferred 12 DW starts under his belt before the Holy Cross game.

I just don't like that we gave up on the possibility of a bowl game. Not even P did that.

 

[Confident Carl]

Can we have some happy talk please!?! Just got back from the Hoops Board and I'm feeling kinda low.

Sorry you ain't gonna find it here.

Try going to the Bama blog, tide fans.com. If you are looking for pigskin laughs not gonna find it here.

The link below was made for UCONN football!

You know the other fanbases have given up when... (add your own)

 

[BlueMAB]

So you are going on record as saying you are okay with Donovan Williams first game as a starter would be the Holy Cross game?
You know he will be ready to go after lifting weights, practice and watching film. No deer in the headlights because it's only Holy Cross and no benefit in him getting three D-1 games under his belt. Now do you know that for a fact or is it just your opinion? Furthermore do you know he will look terrible if the O Line blocks like they did for BS or is that again your opinion? Which by the way you are perfectly entitled to but please don't pass that off as intellectual honesty.

I personally prefer three college games under his belt plus all of the above.

Finally, regarding your comment "I think BS is better than people give him credit for". I never said he was terrible. I have been quite complementary of his work ethic and toughness but regarding your comment, does "people" include the coaching staff at North Carolina State?

I literally said "we don't know" what Williams we would have seen. What is wrong with you? "Unlikely" doesn't mean "will" or "won't".

And @businesslawyer has already explained why what the coaches saw at NC St think. He's the best QB we've had (that finished his eligibility) in 5-6 years.

nobody cares what I go on record saying.

By the way, Iowa (and others) wanted Donald Brown as a CB. Coaches get things wrong all the time.

 

[Confident Carl]

I literally said "we don't know" what Williams we would have seen. What is wrong with you? "Unlikely" doesn't mean "will" or "won't".

And @businesslawyer has already explained why what the coaches saw at NC St think. He's the best QB we've had (that finished his eligibility) in 5-6 years.

nobody cares what I go on record saying.

By the way, Iowa (and others) wanted Donald Brown as a CB. Coaches get things wrong all the time.

Business lawyer does a nice job with his game reviews from a fan perspective. I enjoy reading his analysis but he is not an FBS coach. The NCS coaching staff knew all along what Shirreffs upside was. They saw Jacoby Brisset coming (NE Pats) and so did BS. Now with Donovan Williams it's Deja vu all over again. The future is Donovan Williams. It's time, his time!

Wait, what new offensive system?

Bottom line is UCONN is dead last, 128th in the FBS in scoring offense with 16.5 points per game! Do you think the NCS coaches are saying they blew it? I won't blame it all on BS. The play calling has been lousy as well but it is time for a change. This is used a lot but you know what they say about insanity!

 

[whaler11]

Business lawyer does a nice job with his game reviews from a fan perspective. I enjoy reading his analysis but he is not an FBS coach. The NCS coaching staff knew all along what Shirreffs upside was. They saw Jacoby Brisset coming (NE Pats) and so did BS. Now with Donovan Williams it's Deja vu all over again. The future is Donovan Williams. It's time, his time!

Wait, what new offensive system?

Bottom line is UCONN is dead last, 128th in the FBS in scoring offense with 16.5 points per game! Do you think the NCS coaches are saying they blew it? I won't blame it all on BS. The play calling has been lousy as well but it is time for a change. This is used a lot but you know what they say about insanity!

If your argument is that BS was rejected by NCSU's coaches... you might want to go back to the drawing board. DW didn't have any FBS offers and it was clear panic from Diaco to get someone committed.

They saw Brissett coming? He transferred there from Florida - every half serious cfb fan in the country knew who he was.

 

[Confident Carl]

If your argument is that BS was rejected by NCSU's coaches... you might want to go back to the drawing board. DW didn't have any FBS offers and it was clear panic from Diaco to get someone committed.

They saw Brissett coming? He transferred there from Florida - every half serious cfb fan in the country knew who he was.

So, Mr. college football you are saying that Donovan Williams is going to suck and you think Sherriffs is the answer. You've made your point now you gotta live with it. Next you are going to say, I hope I'm wrong!

 

[whaler11]

So, Mr. college football you are saying that Donovan Williams is going to suck and you think Sherriffs is the answer. You've made your point now you gotta live with it. Next you are going to say, I hope I'm wrong!

LOL. I have said no such thing and no I don't live up to the points you make up for me.

You might sometime take a look back at the conversations we've all had the last three years - and maybe consider what has transpired.

 

[Confident Carl]

LOL. I have said no such thing and no I don't live up to the points you make up for me.

You might sometime take a look back at the conversations we've all had the last three years - and maybe consider what has transpired.

Pray tell, what exactly are you saying or venting?

 

[whaler11]

Pray tell, what exactly are you saying or venting?

That you've been completely wrong across the board since the day Diaco got here. Don't let that stop you from attacking people tho.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Pray tell, what exactly are you saying or venting?

Whaler, myself, and a few others were Public Enemy #1 here during Diaco's first year. There were signs from day 1. We either hired a brilliant coach or a used car salesman.

We got the used car salesman.

 

[Confident Carl]

Whaler, myself, and a few others were Public Enemy #1 here during Diaco's first year. There were signs from day 1. We either hired a brilliant coach or a used car salesman.

We got the used car salesman.

You and Whaler have to admit, we are having fun again! I will give you my contrarian answer later. Gotta go. This should get interesting. We need each other. Love will keep us together!

 

[Colt house75]

That you've been completely wrong across the board since the day Diaco got here. Don't let that stop you from attacking people tho.

Whaler, myself, and a few others were Public Enemy #1 here during Diaco's first year. There were signs from day 1. We either hired a brilliant coach or a used car salesman.

We got the used car salesman.

You and Whaler have to admit, we are having fun again! I will give you my contrarian answer later. Gotta go. This should get interesting. We need each other. Love will keep us together!

OMG. "Love""??.... CC, whaler and Jimmy s singing kumbaya by the fire(storm).... please don't stop as it's been entertaining.....