Hall of Fame: Swoopes Yes; Muffet No

[Vowelguy]

Sheryl Swoopes made the Hall of Fame.

Other nominees Muffet McGraw, Leta Andrews (winningest HS coach), and the Wayland Baptist teams of yore did not.
I assume the Muffet oversight will get rectified in the near future.

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[Roundball fan]

Man I loved Sheryl Swoopes, what a great jump shot she had.

 

[mdakota]

Man I loved Sheryl Swoopes, what a great jump shot she had.

"Mama can't help your jumpshot" Was a WNBA Commercial in 1998 lol Sheryl asked a little girl where her mama was, and that's what the little girl said back to her... was hilarious

 

[mdakota]

Here is the video



Still makes me laugh

 

[EricLA]

I have no idea what criteria are used when determining if someone is in the Hall of Fame. I looked up the coaches of women's teams that are in there:

Conradt, Summitt, Yow, Barmore, Gunter, Auriemma, Stringer, Vanderveer, and Hatchell (I think I got all of them).

Given that Yow and Gunter have lesser stats than McGraw, it would seem that Muffet should be in there as well. I'm not sure why - maybe not enough NC's yet for them? Not sure. I wonder if it's like the baseball HOF - where often times it takes several ballots before someone is elected there...

But I would agree that given the people who are already in, Muffet deserves to be there based on her accomplishments...

 

[Plebe]

I have no idea what criteria are used when determining if someone is in the Hall of Fame. I looked up the coaches of women's teams that are in there:

Conradt, Summitt, Yow, Barmore, Gunter, Auriemma, Stringer, Vanderveer, and Hatchell (I think I got all of them).

Given that Yow and Gunter have lesser stats than McGraw, it would seem that Muffet should be in there as well. I'm not sure why - maybe not enough NC's yet for them? Not sure. I wonder if it's like the baseball HOF - where often times it takes several ballots before someone is elected there...

But I would agree that given the people who are already in, Muffet deserves to be there based on her accomplishments...

No doubt Muffet exceeds the credentials of some women's coaches already inducted, but a lot boils down to the relative strength of the class of nominees. I think this group was a particularly strong class. The voters can only vote for so many nominees.

 

[Jackalope]

Well, Muffet has only won just One national championship. She might need at least another one to get in!

 

[VAUConnFan]

Sheryl Swoops is, arguably, the greatest WBB of all time. She was outstanding on both ends of the floor and has the accolades to back it up.

 

[01Neaggrad02]

What was Geno's line about winning one national title? People can do it... but winning a second, a third and so on shows that you are good at what you do and it is not a fluke. Muffet won a national title in 2001... 15 years ago. Since then she has won nodda.... was in three finals and over the past four years.... and came up empty.

Geno won 10 titles in 20 years... I know it has little to do with Muffet and the Hall of Fame... I just like saying it. Especially when it deals with Notre Dame

 

[Henry]

Muffett deserves it but it would have helped if she had won one more championship over the last few years. 2004 cemented it for Calhoun.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Swoopes deserves it. She was great.

Muffet will make it in time, even without another championship.

The big question for me is whether Iverson will PRACTICE his acceptance speech. I'm sure that Shaq will entertain.

 

[KnightBridgeAZ]

I have no idea what criteria are used when determining if someone is in the Hall of Fame. I looked up the coaches of women's teams that are in there:

Conradt, Summitt, Yow, Barmore, Gunter, Auriemma, Stringer, Vanderveer, and Hatchell (I think I got all of them).

Given that Yow and Gunter have lesser stats than McGraw, it would seem that Muffet should be in there as well. I'm not sure why - maybe not enough NC's yet for them? Not sure. I wonder if it's like the baseball HOF - where often times it takes several ballots before someone is elected there...

But I would agree that given the people who are already in, Muffet deserves to be there based on her accomplishments...

I have no idea, but can speak to Vivian's election - she was told that she would not make the Hall of Fame unless she had an additional international credential - hence, her being an Assistant Coach to Van Chancellor in 2004. Now, she was a friend of Van's, but make no mistake, this is one fact I am 100% certain of. Likewise, Yow and Gunter, in addition to long successful careers, were (purportedly) found acceptable because of their USA basketball credentials. All 3 lacked the National Championship, the others of course all have NC's and some were "no brainers".

I'm sure that Muffet will get in, eventually.

 

[Buzzyboy]

I have no idea what criteria are used when determining if someone is in the Hall of Fame. I looked up the coaches of women's teams that are in there:

Conradt, Summitt, Yow, Barmore, Gunter, Auriemma, Stringer, Vanderveer, and Hatchell (I think I got all of them).

Given that Yow and Gunter have lesser stats than McGraw, it would seem that Muffet should be in there as well. I'm not sure why - maybe not enough NC's yet for them? Not sure. I wonder if it's like the baseball HOF - where often times it takes several ballots before someone is elected there...

But I would agree that given the people who are already in, Muffet deserves to be there based on her accomplishments...

Actually, I was surprised that Muffet wasn't in already. I thought she made it in the past few years but I guess my recollection was wrong. She is obviously deserving and I regard her as a better coach than at least a couple of the above listed group that are already in.

 

[alexrgct]

Swoopes deserves it. She was great.

Muffet will make it in time, even without another championship.

The big question for me is whether Iverson will PRACTICE his acceptance speech. I'm sure that Shaq will entertain.

We talkin' about PRACTICE, man...

But AI deserves the hell out of it.

Muffet does have a history of transformative accomplishment with respect to the WBB program. She has as many NCs as Jody Conradt, who's in the Hall, albeit fewer than 900 victories. However, four NC games in five years is kind of a big deal.

I LOVE Swoopes and am ecstatic to see her contributions to the game recognized. Only Ohio State fans may be a little less thrilled.

 

[GiladKatzDeli]

Muffet is a hall of famer, without question. I think Kim Mulkey eventually gets in as well..

 

[mdakota]

Muffet is a hall of famer, without question. I think Kim Mulkey eventually gets in as well..

Yes I agree but will they let her jacket in?? That's the real question here....

 

[Blakeon18]

The first women's game I ever saw on TV was the championship game with Swoope's Texas Tech team against...maybe Ohio State?
Sheryl had around 45 points! Might have been around 1993?
Would not mind Stewie taking that record down tonight....in a win.

 

[HuskyNan]

Actually, I was surprised that Muffet wasn't in already. I thought she made it in the past few years but I guess my recollection was wrong. She is obviously deserving and I regard her as a better coach than at least a couple of the above listed group that are already in.

I believe MM is in the Women's Bball HOF but not the Naismith Basketball HOF in Springfield.

 

[VAUConnFan]

The first women's game I ever saw on TV was the championship game with Swoope's Texas Tech team against...maybe Ohio State?
Sheryl had around 45 points! Might have been around 1993?
Would not mind Stewie taking that record down tonight....in a win.

47 points. Swoopes was also the tournament's leading rebounder, was almost perfect from the free throw line, and was singularly phenomenal.

 

[DaddyChoc]

Sheryl Swoops is, arguably, the greatest WBB of all time. She was outstanding on both ends of the floor and has the accolades to back it up.

just saw her enshrinement, she looks good and thanked who she needed to. I'm proud of her

 

[HardHatGuy#2]

Sheryl Swoops is, arguably, the greatest WBB of all time. She was outstanding on both ends of the floor and has the accolades to back it up.

Swoops, Miller, Taurasi. I could argue that for eternity, and never figure it out.

 

[Dillon77]

I believe MM is in the Women's Bball HOF but not the Naismith Basketball HOF in Springfield.

That's correct, Nan: she was elected in 2011...I just checked the ND site for verification.
I agree with one of the posters that MM will eventually get into the Naismith Hall of Fame. This year was a strong class and there are so many slots.
Onwards and upwards!

 

[wire chief]

Here is the video



Still makes me laugh

Me too.

 

[UcMiami]

I have no idea what criteria are used when determining if someone is in the Hall of Fame. I looked up the coaches of women's teams that are in there:

Conradt, Summitt, Yow, Barmore, Gunter, Auriemma, Stringer, Vanderveer, and Hatchell (I think I got all of them).

Given that Yow and Gunter have lesser stats than McGraw, it would seem that Muffet should be in there as well. I'm not sure why - maybe not enough NC's yet for them? Not sure. I wonder if it's like the baseball HOF - where often times it takes several ballots before someone is elected there...

But I would agree that given the people who are already in, Muffet deserves to be there based on her accomplishments...

I think it gets down to issues of influence on the history of the game in addition to the actual career numbers - Yow, Conradt, Gunter, Stringer, Vanderveer, and Hatchell are all part of the 'pioneers' of the women's collegiate game, and with their USA basketball credentials on top of their college records.

Of the currently active coaches, Geno stands far above the others, Tara with two NCs and an Olympic gold is next, Kim and Dawn with their playing careers on top of their coaching are probably next.

Muffet is a great coach, but she is in the generation that came after the pioneers, she has only one NC, has never been part of the USA family (don't know why, assume it is her choice), and does not stand above the other very impressively credentialed current coaches not in the hall except by longevity. I think she will get in, but it may be a few years before she does.

 

[CL82]

Well, Muffet has only won just One national championship. She might need at least another one to get in!

Muffet suffers from coaching in the Geno era. Without Geno she'd have, what, maybe 4 natties? She's HOF worthy IMO and she'll get there eventually.