Guess our year wasn’t that bad

[ctchamps]

You guys are drama queens, it is one game and to say 31-3 is worse than under .500 is nuts. UConn was unwatchable, lost to non-tourney teams by 20 and generated apathy.

I’d rather date the prettiest girl even if I knew I’d eventually get dumped than sit in the basement winning 2/5 solitaire games.

Every good team but one ends with a loss. If you can’t take your buddies ribbing or the press obsessing over one game get thicker skin.

Sucks for you. I ended up marrying her.

 

[August_West]

I don't think the George Mason game is nearly as relevant nationally as it is amongst UConn fans.

It is.

On the tournament App for watching games this year. It was the top March upset game listed for rewatch before the weekend. They listed three. Ours was first.

It wasnt the worst March upset ever, but it certainly has had traction.

 

[ctchamps]

To be, or not to be, that is the question.

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.....

or..

To die, to sleep....and by a sleep, to say we end
the heart-ache, and the thousand natural shocks
that Flesh is heir to?
.
.
Yes...the Cavaliers suffered the arrows of outrageous fortune, but is it really better to sleep the sleep of the dead and not participate?

Yeah..Cav fans will bear their cross...but I think it is still better "to be, then not be".

They had a good season, made the tournament...and own the loss in a historic upset.

Which of those fans played any games? Fans are wanna bes who dream they are doing something.

 

[tzznandrew]

It is.

On the tournament App for watching games this year. It was the top March upset game listed for rewatch before the weekend. They listed three. Ours was first.

It wasnt the worst March upset ever, but it certainly has had traction.

It has the (sigh) advantage of being a good game. OT, late game basket to send it there, 3 at the buzzer for the win that missed.

UConn is also a bigger name than Virginia. It's the perfect recipe for a re-watchable upset. Why would anyone ever re-watch a 20-point blowout unless you are a UMBC alum?

 

[Dogdeacon]

Which of those fans played any games? Fans are wanna bes who dream they are doing something.

All the more reason ‘to be’ Fans don’t get anything win or lose, but you get a lot more fun evenings out of 31-3 vs our mess.

Can’t even pretend a dream this year, 17-18 UConn fans are Sixers fans minus Hinkie and the process.

 

[ctchamps]

All the more reason ‘to be’ Fans don’t get anything win or lose, but you get a lot more fun evenings out of 31-3 vs our mess.

Can’t even pretend a dream this year, 17-18 UConn fans are Sixers fans minus Hinkie and the process.

These debates are subjective. All of this is about how we feel. We’re not dodging bombs or tidal waves and yet we feel lousy over outcomes of games or seasons almost to the same extent.

I felt lousy after last season. I felt worse after this season because lousy is cumulative. But i’d have a hard time convincing myself that I felt better after the GM loss or the loss to UCLA or Maryland or FSU or...... And still feel lousy when I think about those losses.

People in this thread are either trying to make themselves feel better about these past two seasons by emphasizing the ignominy of the Virginia loss or justify their current state of mourning over these past two seasons. Nothing wrong with that. I just don’t see how people can logically argue about emotions.

Given that so many people do it I must not be logical about what constitutes logic.

 

[Confident Carl]

Well they had a great year but I’d hate to be known as the only number 1 seed to lose their first game. Might be a while before we see it again.

I say probably never again.

 

[Huskybass]

Not so much mocking THEM, but more of tickling you. let’s see that happy face again sunshine. This is the boneyard. We have 4 rings in a very short period of time and hit a snag. Will be fine.

We will be fine, now that the problem has been eliminated.

 

[champs99and04]

It is.

On the tournament App for watching games this year. It was the top March upset game listed for rewatch before the weekend. They listed three. Ours was first.

It wasnt the worst March upset ever, but it certainly has had traction.

It's up there for sure, but in terms of enduring impact I just don't know how much it moves the needle anymore. George Mason was a damn good team compared to the VCU squad (a 12-loss team from the CAA!) that knocked off Kansas five years later. That one, I have to think, will be remembered more, not only because it was a bigger upset and more of a knockout, but also because it corroborated Kansas and Self's reputation as under-achievers in the tournament. And that's just taking a sample of elite eight games. Lehigh-Duke, Mercer-Duke, and Middle Tennessee State-MSU were far more egregious given the circumstances, in addition to being more recent.

Had we lost to Albany...and we almost did...that might have broken the internet. UMBC-Virginia would have been underwhelming comparatively. Now, though, I see UConn-GMU as closer to KU-Davidson in '08 - a tightly contested, fondly remembered games between an upstart and a traditional power. Losing to UMBC by 20 as the number one overall seed completely breaks the scale and will be used as a cautionary tale for years to come. That was JFK vs. Nixon in the first debate type stuff.

 

[AdamaNation]

Fight the good fight @Dogdeacon. @MervthePurvis, you sound like your afraid of losing. I'd rather have a good/great year ending with a horrific loss (which we have done sort of GMU, San Diego) than not get invited to the dance at all.

All good Q! Not afraid. Sadly too reckless as I’m really too careless. Anyway, the elite 8 loss was just crushing to US and the guys in Vegas.( still friggin burns/that team was better than 04 to me). And as much as that damn buzzer beater from the elbow stunk vs San Diego with AJ out(as a very young 4 seed) we went to Detroit the next year. No one outside of the bone yard or Storrs knows that. My point was merely that as bad as we think it has been, or two miserable years will be forgotten, as Virginia’s historically successful season will be forever remembered, not for a last second shot, but an absolute tail whipping by a 16 seed. I think it was some bad seeding. But it is what it is. I was really trying to bring some levity and perspective to our current state.

 

[QDOG5]

All good Q! Not afraid. Sadly too reckless as I’m really too careless. Anyway, the elite 8 loss was just crushing to US and the guys in Vegas.( still friggin burns/that team was better than 04 to me). And as much as that damn buzzer beater from the elbow stunk vs San Diego with AJ out(as a very young 4 seed) we went to Detroit the next year. No one outside of the bone yard or Storrs knows that. My point was merely that as bad as we think it has been, or two miserable years will be forgotten, as Virginia’s historically successful season will be forever remembered, not for a last second shot, but an absolute tail whipping by a 16 seed. I think it was some bad seeding. But it is what it is. I was really trying to bring some levity and perspective to our current state.

Bad beats happen and I am definitely a sore loser but I have learned to enjoy good seasons even if they end poorly. We are on opposite sides of this exchange but whose to say we won't see eye to eye on the next. I appreciate your civility and I too am a fan of levity. Let's hope we can return our winning ways and everyone can cheer up. See, levity.

 

[dogfan96]

I think Sanchez is known for the wins. He’s like Rick Ocaceck pulling Paulina Porizkova & Sanchez gets props for doing what he did despite otherwise being/playing ugly as all get out.

Not to bring the vibe down to least common denominator and unfavorite topic, but this makes the case that at some point in not having a job legacy occurs to him & Ollie settles, drops lawsuit and is always known for a national championship.

Stop it. Mark Sanchez = Butt Fumble.. EVERYBODY who watches football knows that. I guarantee you there are people who don't realize he started 2 AFC title games.

 

[AdamaNation]

Bad beats happen and I am definitely a sore loser but I have learned to enjoy good seasons even if they end poorly. We are on opposite sides of this exchange but whose to say we won't see eye to eye on the next. I appreciate your civility and I too am a fan of levity. Let's hope we can return our winning ways and everyone can cheer up. See, levity.

I cling a virtual glass to you Q! Now back to the marathon on UConn close to signing Hurley thread

 

[nomar]

To be, or not to be, that is the question.

Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.....

or..

To die, to sleep....and by a sleep, to say we end
the heart-ache, and the thousand natural shocks
that Flesh is heir to?
.
.
Yes...the Cavaliers suffered the arrows of outrageous fortune, but is it really better to sleep the sleep of the dead and not participate?

Yeah..Cav fans will bear their cross...but I think it is still better "to be, then not be".

They had a good season, made the tournament...and own the loss in a historic upset.

FYI, I read this in the voices of Eric and Billy Madison

 

[billybud]

FYI, I read this in the voices of Eric and Billy Madison

I read it in the stentorian voice of the old NFL films voice over.

 

[Dogdeacon]

These debates are subjective. All of this is about how we feel. We’re not dodging bombs or tidal waves and yet we feel lousy over outcomes of games or seasons almost to the same extent.

I felt lousy after last season. I felt worse after this season because lousy is cumulative. But i’d have a hard time convincing myself that I felt better after the GM loss or the loss to UCLA or Maryland or FSU or. And still feel lousy when I think about those losses.

People in this thread are either trying to make themselves feel better about these past two seasons by emphasizing the ignominy of the Virginia loss or justify their current state of mourning over these past two seasons. Nothing wrong with that. I just don’t see how people can logically argue about emotions.

Given that so many people do it I must not be logical about what constitutes logic.

I guess the opinions are skewed by how people feel about these losses and seasons, but my stance is far more objectively based. There is some support to say 31-3 is superior to 15-17. There are winning players and quality players that carryover to the future. There is evidence of good program management required to win 30+ games vs finish under .500. And again even from a fan perspective there are hours of enjoyment & satisfaction tangible in 30 x 2 vs 15 x 2. Admittedly my opinion is skewed by the philosophy to enjoy the ride and don't fixate only on the destination or end result. And this perspective is easier to embrace at UConn with 4 National Championship in our quiver vs UVA.

 

[ctchamps]

I guess the opinions are skewed by how people feel about these losses and seasons, but my stance is far more objectively based. There is some support to say 31-3 is superior to 15-17. There are winning players and quality players that carryover to the future. There is evidence of good program management required to win 30+ games vs finish under .500. And again even from a fan perspective there are hours of enjoyment & satisfaction tangible in 30 x 2 vs 15 x 2. Admittedly my opinion is skewed by the philosophy to enjoy the ride and don't fixate only on the destination or end result. And this perspective is easier to embrace at UConn with 4 National Championship in our quiver vs UVA.

I think you present valid points.

In general we have valid and invalid reasoning to support our perspectives. In the end we'll always justify what we feel is right and scratch our heads at other perspectives.

Personally I welcome people explaining their position or positions regarding issues. I just find it interesting that people (not implying you) don't recognize that an opinion is just an opinion and insist others treat their opinions as facts.

It's nice to probe people to see if they can stretch their thinking and consider our opinions, but what I observe frequently is that we insist others agree with our opinions. That only happens in dictatorships. And those dictators don't know what people really think.

I also find it interesting that people continue to repeat themselves ad nauseam . They treat intellectual debate like this is a game of attrition. I'll wear you out before you wear me out. That's the opposite of intellectual debating imo. If someone won't change their mind after a reasonable effort then most likely they won't ever change their mind. And if they do was the effort employed beneficial?

Obviously we learn by repetitive presentation. And obviously various groups in society employ this technique from marketing of products, to philosophies, to politics. And it works because that's in accordance with the process of learning. But in the Boneyard with strong egos all it does is bring chaos.

In the end if smart people want to put in so much effort to situations that don't really impact events thats obviously up to them and not me. I bring this up with people on occasion only to see if they agree with me. It's obvious to me that there is some value and pleasure in stubbornly pursuing inconsequential endeavors. Or perhaps it's fear of retreating because that makes us look weak and we need to employ this even in situations that are inconsequential.