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CV1 said:
Announcer said “Arkansas is saying to Teddy Allen you are not going to beat us”. I’d say we beat NM State 98 out of 100 times. Even their second and third options are not hitting shots like they were Thursday. Arkansas coach just said in halftime interview that they had 4 different coverages against Teddy Allen. What was our strategy again? Man to man and hope for the best?
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Pretty much. He did play the game of his miserable life.
 
Everyone already knows deep down that no way Arkansas and Musselman lose this game to
NMSU.

Musselman will follow up last years Elite 8 run last year with at least a minimum Sweet 16 run this year.

Just wait his recruiting class for next year. He is getting big time recruits. It starts at the guard position and Musselman is getting it done.

He and Oats are getting talent especially elite guard and wing talent needed to be successful in March.

PS: Meanwhile we have Dan Hurley who can’t recruit a good point guard or shooters, and chokes when the lights are bright.
 
The only “adjustment” I recall was merely switching Jackson and Martin on Allen, but no change in scheme or anything
 
When I watched a couple of games of NMS before Thursday, I did not think they had a chance at winning. The stubbornness to not double Allen was a dumb gamble. Hurley does not like to put too much attention on one player. He was probably hoping he would wear himself out and go cold. But you have to physically chill the hot hand. They are not a very good team. They did do a nice job defensively in the first half denying the handoff to Cole, but it was a team we should never have lost to.
 
CV1 said:
Announcer said “Arkansas is saying to Teddy Allen you are not going to beat us”. I’d say we beat NM State 98 out of 100 times. Even their second and third options are not hitting shots like they were Thursday. Arkansas coach just said in halftime interview that they had 4 different coverages against Teddy Allen. What was our strategy again? Man to man and hope for the best?
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I’d say it differently. If Teddy Allen doesn’t score 37 against us we don’t lose.
 
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Hurley was relieved to not be playing a Big East game but had no idea how to plan for said game. The fact they were different was worth 10-15 points
 
This adjustment should have been made by halftime when it was clear Allen was their only chance at beating us.
 
Doubling TE as a defensive strategy isn’t exactly an innovative defense. It’s more of a common sense defense. Dan Hurley’s failure to do just that was owed to stubbornness, rather than a lack of coaching IQ, at least that’s my optimistic take on things. Hopefully, after enough failures, he may see the light and become more flexible in his thinking.
 
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Too bad I'm about to lose the really good dinner I had before watching the first half....Woulda coulda shoulda just never dawned on Dan Hurley????
 
DCHuskyFan said:
Doubling TE as a defensive strategy isn’t exactly an innovative defense. It’s more of a common sense defense. Dan Hurley’s failure to do just that was owed to stubbornness, rather than a lack of coaching IQ, at least that’s my optimistic take on things. Hopefully, after enough failures, he may see the light and become more flexible in his thinking.
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I am a big fan of Hurley. I think he has the potential to be a great coach in the next 5 years. But it is imperative that Hurley understands how important it is to stop the hot hand. When you are playing a team with multiple offensive weapons, you have to be careful doubling. Against Villanova, you can double a few possessions to slow down the hot hand, but you cant do it the whole game. But against a team like NMSU, they really had no other offensive threats. So yes, he has to change that philosophy...We should have never lost to Seton Hall earlier in the season because the same thing happened.
 
Maybe just maybe Teddy Allen had a great game against us and we didn’t think he would have that big of impact on the game.

Easy for Mussleman to watch film from two nights ago and see one guy single handily beat us. His came up with his strategy based of how he played against us, we came up with our based on how he played earlier this season. Allen was clearly the best player but was he so good that it requires screening and doubling every play?

Did Allen have 37 against anyone else this season? The rest of the team were pretty lousy shooters all season, but they shot lights out against us.
 
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BPT2Storrs said:
Maybe just maybe Teddy Allen had a great game against us and we didn’t think he would have that big of impact on the game.

Easy for Mussleman to watch film from two nights ago and see one guy single handily beat us. His came up with his strategy based of how he played against us, we came up with our based on how he played earlier this season. Allen was clearly the best player but was he so good that it requires screening and doubling every play?

Did Allen have 37 against anyone else this season? The rest of the team were pretty lousy shooters all season, but they shot lights out against us.
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He had 4 30 pt games prior to, and one 40 pt game
 
BPT2Storrs said:
Maybe just maybe Teddy Allen had a great game against us and we didn’t think he would have that big of impact on the game.

Easy for Mussleman to watch film from two nights ago and see one guy single handily beat us. His came up with his strategy based of how he played against us, we came up with our based on how he played earlier this season. Allen was clearly the best player but was he so good that it requires screening and doubling every play?

Did Allen have 37 against anyone else this season? The rest of the team were pretty lousy shooters all season, but they shot lights out against us.
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No this is not true. Everyone knew that Teddy Allen had the ability to go off, has shown it at other schools in his many stops this wasn’t a surprise to most people.
 
TheRealPuck said:
Dude. Teddy Alllen scored 37. We didn’t “try” anything. Don’t start with some Stop like anything else mattered. It didn’t. We didn’t try one thing different.
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Just saying, their non-Teddy members were torching us from 3 when we weren't leaving one of them unguarded at all times. You think that would have made them shoot worse?
 
DCHuskyFan said:
Doubling TE as a defensive strategy isn’t exactly an innovative defense. It’s more of a common sense defense. Dan Hurley’s failure to do just that was owed to stubbornness, rather than a lack of coaching IQ, at least that’s my optimistic take on things. Hopefully, after enough failures, he may see the light and become more flexible in his thinking.
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My post was sarcastic bro
 
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BPT2Storrs said:
Maybe just maybe Teddy Allen had a great game against us and we didn’t think he would have that big of impact on the game.

Easy for Mussleman to watch film from two nights ago and see one guy single handily beat us. His came up with his strategy based of how he played against us, we came up with our based on how he played earlier this season. Allen was clearly the best player but was he so good that it requires screening and doubling every play?

Did Allen have 37 against anyone else this season? The rest of the team were pretty lousy shooters all season, but they shot lights out against us.
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I do agree though, even though he had a few big games, Arkansas had an advantage, because they saw him do it against a high-level defensive team...but it still doesn't change that during the game, they should have made some adjustments.
 
Amazing how Arkansas is just doubling and forcing Allen to pass to teammates. And, letting his other teammates take, and not make their shots. Even when he shoots, he can only take bad shots.

Does Arkansas have superior defenders to us to make this stifling defense on Allen work? Couldn't Hurley have figured something out that would work?

And those NMSU turnovers. Is Arkansas' defense frustrating them or are they unforced? Like they have 10 turnovers and 1 assist.

Looks like Musselman knows how to game plan.
 
BPT2Storrs said:
Maybe just maybe Teddy Allen had a great game against us and we didn’t think he would have that big of impact on the game.

Easy for Mussleman to watch film from two nights ago and see one guy single handily beat us. His came up with his strategy based of how he played against us, we came up with our based on how he played earlier this season. Allen was clearly the best player but was he so good that it requires screening and doubling every play?

Did Allen have 37 against anyone else this season? The rest of the team were pretty lousy shooters all season, but they shot lights out against us.
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You'd think that by, oh I don't know, Allen's 20th point the braintrust on the UConn sideline would say Gee, this guy is dropping some max artillery on us, maybe we should change things up and try to deny him access to shoot at will.
 
mauconnfan said:
No this is not true. Everyone knew that Teddy Allen had the ability to go off, has shown it at other schools in his many stops this wasn’t a surprise to most people.
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Yeah it’s totally false. Every single report I read or heard focused almost exclusively on him as “the one player who can beat you.” There was no mystery whatsoever.
 
8893 said:
Yeah it’s totally false. Every single report I read or heard focused almost exclusively on him as “the one player who can beat you.” There was no mystery whatsoever.
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Did every report expect his teammates to shoot 7-11 from 3? This is a massive part to this puzzle that many are refusing to acknowledge. Had they short they’re percentage we still win even if Allen dropped 50.
 
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