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I think the emphasis this year is creating match up problems. We can go big and small. We can play half court, and we can run with great athletes. But this year we can also press because we have that depth. You ask about PT? I say, good luck scouting us. Good luck figuring out who to stop. And which style we may employ against you.
Yes. All this is true AND if we play with maximum intensity and aggression we are going to need that real deep bench. The question really becomes do our opponents have a deep enough bench to compete and even play against us. This will give new meaning to that song "who let the dogs out." The staff will have weapons to increase the level of ferocity and finish every court battle they face this year. Very, very formidable.
 
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Singare is the only guy that I could understand being unhappy with his PT since he’s not a frosh

Mahaney 20 / Diarra 20
McNeeley 25 / Nowell 10 / Mahaney 5
Stew 10 / Ball 20 / Ross 10
Karaban 25 / Stew 15
Reed 20 / Johnson 20

25: Mahaney / McNeeley / Stew / Karaban
20: Diarra / Ball / Reed / Johnson
10: Nowell / Ross

Bench: Abraham / Singare
that looks pretty spot on, i can see Alex being the one playing 30+ a game. If these guys play to their abilities and we are playing 10 guys about 20 minutes , its gonna be a freaking nightmare to play us. This is a great problem to have!
 

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that looks pretty spot on, i can see Alex being the one playing 30+ a game. If these guys play to their abilities and we are playing 10 guys about 20 minutes , its gonna be a freaking nightmare to play us. This is a great problem to have!
As counterintuitive as this may seem, I personally believe that there is a strong possibility that Alex will have his lowest minutes per game average this upcoming season. I will be surprised if anyone averages more than 26-28 minutes a game.
 

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Last summer, I watched highlights and the European tour and, coupled with the info we had on returning players, I had a crazy thought: that we might be better than the previous year when we won it all. I chalked that up to being an overly optimistic and convinced myself that we would probably be top 10-15 good, but not great. I obviously should have stuck to my guns.

That being said, I'm having similar irrational thoughts this year. I don't believe this team will be better than last year, but I think we're really, really good, will be top 5 all year and should be right in the running for another shot at the title.
 

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The freshmen, outside of McNeeley, will probably sit a lot and have to wait their turn
 
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Do we have too many good players and not enough pt? That’s the only prob I see. Enough pt for 11 worthy players
Ain’t no such thing as too many good players. Lol. Like, u want bad players?
 
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Our depth and athleticism will be a strength. Hope we can continue our recent success re: no major injuries to sidetrack our team objectives. Dan and staff will figure out PT. Talented guys first want the team to be successful.

Kudos to SnC and training staff for keeping everyone healthy for practices/ player development and for games over the last few years.
 
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Singare is the only guy that I could understand being unhappy with his PT since he’s not a frosh

Mahaney 20 / Diarra 20
McNeeley 25 / Nowell 10 / Mahaney 5
Stew 10 / Ball 20 / Ross 10
Karaban 25 / Stew 15
Reed 20 / Johnson 20

25: Mahaney / McNeeley / Stew / Karaban
20: Diarra / Ball / Reed / Johnson
10: Nowell / Ross

Bench: Abraham / Singare
Oof, lotta love for Abraham on here. Don't see him tied to the bench.
 
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Last summer, I watched highlights and the European tour and, coupled with the info we had on returning players, I had a crazy thought: that we might be better than the previous year when we won it all. I chalked that up to being an overly optimistic and convinced myself that we would probably be top 10-15 good, but not great. I obviously should have stuck to my guns.

That being said, I'm having similar irrational thoughts this year. I don't believe this team will be better than last year, but I think we're really, really good, will be top 5 all year and should be right in the running for another shot at the title.
Go with irrational!! Or excessive exuberance if you want a changeup.
 
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Once again, problems everywhere. Going to be incredible watching how this plays out.

Considering each player on an island, without respect to the roster, it's difficult to see how they don't see the floor. As bendm points out though, not too many examples of a great team with an 11 man rotation.
 
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It’s Hurley and the staffs worry not yours. So if it’s their worry then why be worried. It’s none of your business yes it’s our business as fans but it’s not our job so stop worrying take a chill pill or a drink and enjoy the summer.
 
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And think about all the fun that the "pump the brakes" crowd deprived themselves of last year and the year before.
I mean, to be fair, the brakes were appropriately pumped in the sense that we did not have (or use) much depth this past year -- it was just that our top 7 was insanely good.

This year will be a unique challenge and opportunity for Hurley in the staff in the sense that we actually do have the depth to work out of a number of different looks, and don't have the overwhelming top-end talent that we can just run roughshod over people. It will be a very different puzzle to put together.
 
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Once again, problems everywhere. Going to be incredible watching how this plays out.

Considering each player on an island, without respect to the roster, it's difficult to see how they don't see the floor. As bendm points out though, not too many examples of a great team with an 11 man rotation.
It’s gonna be fascinating to see how it all unfolds with playing time. Things have a way of working out the universe tends to unfold as it should.
 
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It’s Hurley and the staffs worry not yours. So if it’s their worry then why be worried. It’s none of your business yes it’s our business as fans but it’s not our job so stop worrying take a chill pill or a drink and enjoy the summer.
I'm not worried, I'm fascinated. Going to be an unbelievably entertaining year if you are a Husky fan, probably pretty interesting for the pure Hoop fans too. For our opponents, not so much!

"Problems Everywhere" is a facetious statement.
 
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I'm not worried, I'm fascinated. Going to be an unbelievably entertaining year if you are a Husky fan, probably pretty interesting for the pure Hoop fans too. For our opponents, not so much!

"Problems Everywhere" is a facetious statement.
How cool is it to say you are going for a 3 peat. Hurley and his staff are problem solvers so I’m not worried.
 
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I'll tell you what's a great problem to have. It's a great problem to have five starters who are all NBA-caliber players and three competent backups -- one for the backcourt, one for center and one for the forecourt. In other words, it's a great problem to have last year's team.

The problem this year is that there are too many players of potential NBA-caliber who are indistinguishable from one another. This remains a problem only if the players remain indistinguishable from another; that is, none begins to show himself to be of NBA-caliber. The problem, then, properly stated, will be not that we have too many players competing for too little time but that we have too few players of NBA-caliber.

The resolution to be hoped for is that several of these players will blossom into NBA-caliber performers. They will become our starters and first reserves. The rest will simply not get playing time, not because there isn't enough playing time, but because they aren't good enough to crack the top 7 or 8 that constitute the active roster of a championship team.
 
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Singare is the only guy that I could understand being unhappy with his PT since he’s not a frosh

Mahaney 20 / Diarra 20
McNeeley 25 / Nowell 10 / Mahaney 5
Stew 10 / Ball 20 / Ross 10
Karaban 25 / Stew 15
Reed 20 / Johnson 20

25: Mahaney / McNeeley / Stew / Karaban
20: Diarra / Ball / Reed / Johnson
10: Nowell / Ross

Bench: Abraham / Singare
The video of Abraham during practice were impressive. Granted they're selective clips, but I was impressed with his handle, athleticism and shot making and didn't look like a player that would be sitting most of the season on the bench.

I'm not sure the concern is that we have too many good players, but it will be more of a challenge for the staff to develop chemistry with the five players that are on the floor if he expands the rotation. I can certainly see the top 11 players getting solid playing time on any given game. Depending on matchups, style of play and foul situation, that the number of minutes will vary for some of the players that are in the lower portion of that 11. I just think that separation of talent between the top 11 players is a lot closer than we've ever seen at UConn.

The two things to keep an eye on are:

Can the multi-positional players execute at a high level on both ends of the floor with a frequent variety of different lineups?

Will two or more players be able to consistently step up and execute during critical points in the game such as during winning time and when opponents make a run or other types of adversity that take place during a game where the team desperately needs to turn the tide back in their favor?

What makes things interesting when trying to discuss playing time is that in Hurley's system there's a lot of positionless execution in their offense, and even their defense to some degree. The one, two and three positions, and even the four, are often executing a similar things in the motion offense. And when the shot clock starts to run down, if all four of those players have the skill to handle, dish and create their own shot, any one of them could find the ball in their hands with the task of making a quick decision to either create enough space and take the J, or drive and do one of the following: dish to a teammate under or cutting to the basket, kick it out to one of our open sharpshooters, take a mid-range shot in the soft area of the paint, or take it right to the basket to either score or draw a foul.

Last season, Newton was often the player with the ball in his hands as the clock was running down. Late in the season we started to see Castle take that on as well. And there were times when Cam, Diarra or Alex found themselves in that situation and were able to execute some critical plays.

This upcoming season looks like we'll have a lot of players who have the skills to execute what I described about. The question is will there be a few who can consistently process and execute successfully under high pressure situations. I know that Hurley and the staff will figure it out and will coach the team to make sure the right players have the ball during those situations.

Based on what we know and a small sample of video, I'd say all except the three bigs have some array of skills to execute in those situations. If I were to guess, I think Diarra, Mahaney, Alex and maybe even Stewart will be called upon early in the season to take on these types of situations, while players such as Ball, Nowell and McNeeley might also take this on as they develop and Hurley gains confidence in them. And you might be able to add Abraham and Ross, who both have surprisingly good handles, to that mix if they develops enough to find themselves earning some PT. With all this said, the ability to defend will play a huge part on how much playing time each player will earn.

It's going to be an exciting season and I wouldn't be shocked to see Hurly go deeper into the bench than he has before.
 
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I, too, am nervous that we’re too good.

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I'll tell you what's a great problem to have. It's a great problem to have five starters who are all NBA-caliber players and three competent backups -- one for the backcourt, one for center and one for the forecourt. In other words, it's a great problem to have last year's team.

The problem this year is that there are too many players of potential NBA-caliber who are indistinguishable from one another. This remains a problem only if the players remain indistinguishable from another; that is, none begins to show himself to be of NBA-caliber. The problem, then, properly stated, will be not that we have too many players competing for too little time but that we have too few players of NBA-caliber.

The resolution to be hoped for is that several of these players will blossom into NBA-caliber performers. They will become our starters and first reserves. The rest will simply not get playing time, not because there isn't enough playing time, but because they aren't good enough to crack the top 7 or 8 that constitute the active roster of a championship team.
Hurley has stated that he hopes to have an 8-9 man rotation for next year.
 
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I’m thinking this may be the year we play a lot of full court press and utilize ten or eleven players who will be asked to play full out scrappy defense because of our depth.

We haven’t pressed in 15 years and as a regular concept it’s basically dead. Ballhandling and passing are at a higher level than ever and basically any well coached team with some talent can defeat a press easily. I’m guessing Hurley will choose his top 9 guys and we’ll go to bat.
 

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