Governor Malloy Won't Push For Costly XL Center Upgrades

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If you don't want growth in numbers of people, you should still care about what kind of people you have. Losing high income earners and gaining welfare recipients would make the state's environment less desirable for those who remain.

As for density, well, Connecticut is less dense than Rhode Island or Massachusetts (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_population_density). It could grow in population density a bit and still be a very nice place to live. I like Massachusetts better than Connecticut, it's not bad having a densely populated city around as long as you can escape it, which you can in Boston.

The Connecticut colony should have included Springfield.

The traffic in the Boston area is too much. Now I understand why Bostonian drivers are reckless. Boston is a major city. Connecticut never had a city that truly rivaled Boston. New Haven and Hartford are the closest we came, with Hartford being the richest city in the country between the Civil War and the Great Depression. That Colt building made Hartford very wealthy. But Connecticut cities definitely have lots of architecture that represents wealth from the 1800s and 1700s and even 1600s. Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Virginia were the beginning of the English colonies here.

Connecticut has a future in tourism. Boston bay area can only handle so much.

 

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Yes, pretty much by yourself and soon to East Hartford.

#progress

The greater Hartford area is going to have bus rides to UConn games.

#progress

Is there some bus line we can create along the coast for trips to games at Yale?

 

[CL82]

The state sends no money, the citizens do. It's not CT's money.

What are you talking about? That has zero to do with the bloated and inefficient state and local workers, with rich benefits.

Thank you. It really didn't seem worth bother to point that out.

 

[CL82]

The Connecticut colony should have included Springfield.

The traffic in the Boston area is too much. Now I understand why Bostonian drivers are reckless. Boston is a major city. Connecticut never had a city that truly rivaled Boston. New Haven and Hartford are the closest we came, with Hartford being the richest city in the country between the Civil War and the Great Depression. That Colt building made Hartford very wealthy. But Connecticut cities definitely have lots of architecture that represents wealth from the 1800s and 1700s and even 1600s. Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Virginia were the beginning of the English colonies here.

Connecticut has a future in tourism. Boston bay area can only handle so much.

New London was a decent sized city back in the day, George Washington's day.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

Connecticut has a future in tourism. Boston bay area can only handle so much.

What reason do people have to "tour" in CT? The outside-of-Boston tourist options in New England are pretty much a stronghold of Newport and Downeast Maine in the warm weather and VT/NH/ME ski resorts in the winter. Not sure where CT is shifting into this with some gold mine vacation destination.

 

[MASSconn]

The Connecticut colony should have included Springfield.

The traffic in the Boston area is too much. Now I understand why Bostonian drivers are reckless. Boston is a major city. Connecticut never had a city that truly rivaled Boston. New Haven and Hartford are the closest we came, with Hartford being the richest city in the country between the Civil War and the Great Depression. That Colt building made Hartford very wealthy. But Connecticut cities definitely have lots of architecture that represents wealth from the 1800s and 1700s and even 1600s. Connecticut, Massachusetts, and Virginia were the beginning of the English colonies here.

Connecticut has a future in tourism. Boston bay area can only handle so much.

Boston has about 7 Manhattanesque luxury apartment skyscrapers going up in the next 5-10 years, multiple office towers, an innovation hub in the Seaport, expansion of 95 and tech companies flocking into here. Plus our colleges are going nowhere, MIT just won the Hyperloop competition. I would say the tourism future is looking better than Hartford/New Haven right now.

I am by no means anti-Hartford, New Haven, Stamford. But, they need massive overhauling of masterplans. Especially Hartford. It's not looking too good right now.

 

[pj]

What reason do people have to "tour" in CT? The outside-of-Boston tourist options in New England are pretty much a stronghold of Newport and Downeast Maine in the warm weather and VT/NH/ME ski resorts in the winter. Not sure where CT is shifting into this with some gold mine vacation destination.

You underestimate the attraction of traffic jams.

 

[brasssbonanzaa]

You underestimate the attraction of traffic jams.

You underestimate how many traffic jams there are on the Pike/95/93

 

[JSM1970]

95 between the Bridgeport and Greenwich is worse than DC, Atlanta or LA

You underestimate how many traffic jams there are on the Pike/95/93

 

[FDNY99]

Boston has about 7 Manhattanesque luxury apartment skyscrapers going up in the next 5-10 years, multiple office towers, an innovation hub in the Seaport, expansion of 95 and tech companies flocking into here. Plus our colleges are going nowhere, MIT just won the Hyperloop competition. I would say the tourism future is looking better than Hartford/New Haven right now.

I am by no means anti-Hartford, New Haven, Stamford. But, they need massive overhauling of masterplans. Especially Hartford. It's not looking too good right now.

7 "Manhattanesque" residential high-rises aren't that much in the scheme of things....and by "Manhattanesque" how tall are they? They don't mean much unless they are condo's or co-op's. The rents will end up killing those things. The 40 story high luxury residential building in Manhattan is going by the way of the stone age...60 story is the new norm...and there are at least 10 projects started or will be starting soon that will be 80+.

 

[ct06111]

http://ctfastrak.com/about/expansion-study

Meeting @ UConn student union tmrw 2/3/16 11-1pm

http://today.uconn.edu/2016/01/ctfastrak/

Expansion concepts here: I like concept 1B
http://ctfastrak.com/files/2016_1_19_Service_Concepts_2016_Accessible.pdf

Option to take a bus from my house to electric blue and UConn? Sign me up

 

[CL82]

What reason do people have to "tour" in CT? The outside-of-Boston tourist options in New England are pretty much a stronghold of Newport and Downeast Maine in the warm weather and VT/NH/ME ski resorts in the winter. Not sure where CT is shifting into this with some gold mine vacation destination.

Linky

 

[FartMan69]

This thread had train wreck written all over it from the start. I'm sure all of these politically driven rants are well thought out and justifiable but the fact is we will still have to watch games in a glorified Soviet bunker that smells like the back room of a Panda Express.

 

[NYUConn]

 

[auggie22]

7 "Manhattanesque" residential high-rises aren't that much in the scheme of things....and by "Manhattanesque" how tall are they? They don't mean much unless they are condo's or co-op's. The rents will end up killing those things. The 40 story high luxury residential building in Manhattan is going by the way of the stone age...60 story is the new norm...and there are at least 10 projects started or will be starting soon that will be 80+.

At one point in the last ten years I read that there are over 90 buildings in NYC that are taller than the tallest building in Boston ( the Pru ). Boston is a relatively small city, both vertically and by land area.

 

[UCFBfan]

Is there a reason this thread is even on this board anymore? Let's be honest, besides the OP, not one post has been in relation to anything athletic related. Cesspool time!

 

[huskymedic]

hartfordcourant 9:36pm via SocialFlow
.@jacobscourant: No time to open the wallet, but Malloy must address XL
http://www.courant.com/sports/college/hc-jacobs-column-0203-20160202-column.html

 

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At one point in the last ten years I read that there are over 90 buildings in NYC that are taller than the tallest building in Boston ( the Pru ). Boston is a relatively small city, both vertically and by land area.

A lot of Boston is landfill. Manhattan is a rock.

 

[Adios]

Is there a reason this thread is even on this board anymore? Let's be honest, besides the OP, not one post has been in relation to anything athletic related. Cesspool time!

Population trends = markets = TVs.

 

[Adios]

Boston has about 7 Manhattanesque luxury apartment skyscrapers going up in the next 5-10 years, multiple office towers, an innovation hub in the Seaport, expansion of 95 and tech companies flocking into here. Plus our colleges are going nowhere, MIT just won the Hyperloop competition. I would say the tourism future is looking better than Hartford/New Haven right now.

I am by no means anti-Hartford, New Haven, Stamford. But, they need massive overhauling of masterplans. Especially Hartford. It's not looking too good right now.

Connecticut will be redeveloped in some areas in a matter of time. Writing is on the wall.

 

[DarthGrumpy]

Just a little factoid, while growth in CT is stagnant as a whole, growth in Fairfield County is a very healthy 4.6%, its the drop in Litchfield County and just everywhere east of the CT River that is dragging the state down.

http://www.ctpost.com/local/article/Fairfield-County-population-booms-as-Litchfield-6279489.php

 

[Ha Who]

I understand the time is not right and the atmosphere in Storrs rocks. But the crowd was wild last night and it continued into the streets. I still maintain knock the XL down if we continue on the mid major path or find the financing if we are a P5 program

 

[Kolumbo]

The Shore, CT River, Casinos, Vineyards, Micro breweries, Museums, History, Colleges, Amusement Parks, and this is still on the market:

http://www.zillow.com/homes/50-poplar-hill-drive,-farmington,-ct_rb/

 

[Exit 4]

The Shore, CT River, Casinos, Vineyards, Micro breweries, Museums, History, Colleges, Amusement Parks, and this is still on the market:

http://www.zillow.com/homes/50-poplar-hill-drive,-farmington,-ct_rb/

Only another rapper or boxer is gonna buy that pile.

 

[Kolumbo]

Only another rapper or boxer is gonna buy that pile.

I thought the state could buy it and use it to host visiting coaches like, you know, Pitino or Calipari.

 

[ct06111]

CRDA minutes 1/8/16

http://www.crdact.net/data/Unsorted/1-8-2016-DRAFT-VenueCmteMinutes-73324-1.pdf

 

[Chin Diesel]

CRDA minutes 1/8/16

http://www.crdact.net/data/Unsorted/1-8-2016-DRAFT-VenueCmteMinutes-73324-1.pdf

That was a depressing read.

 

[ct06111]

This link has a little more. Meeting with CRDA and Malloy on 1/14/2016 before his budget speech.
http://www.crdact.net/data/Unsorted/1-14-2016-ApprovedBoardMinutes-73404-1.pdf

Governor Malloy joined the meeting and was added to the agenda. The Governor indicated that he is happy with the work CRDA is accomplishing. He further indicated that he continues to look for ways to partner with the communities that we serve. The collaboration on housing has been very important and in the long run will be game changing. He expressed that there are some big challenges with the XL Center

Governor Malloy conveyed that he can’t imagine Hartford without an XL Center, or an equivalent thereof. He expressed that CRDA has done the early work of competitive data regarding either a rebuilt or a brand new center. If the architects and consultants can accomplish what they are saying for the amount that they are estimating and agreements with parties involved can be reached, then it would make sense to move forward.

1. Long-Term Project
   • ∙ A number of meetings have been held with Northland related to acquisition of all or part of their building to allow for reconstruction of the XL Center. An analysis of the various acquisition options, as well cost analyses of each, are being conducted by both parties.
   • ∙ CRDA still anticipates requesting funds in early 2016 for the acquisition of the Northland space and for development of construction design documents.
   • ∙ A Letter of Intent has been signed with UConn for a long-term presence in a reconstructed XL Center should such a facility be built.
     
     Wolfpack and UConn Team Updates
   ∙ Teams are not performing to budget and we hope to see attendance and revenue numbers increase as they move into the second half of their seasons. Lower than expected attendance (particularly for UConn Hockey) and higher security costs have significantly impacted the facility’s budget. The postponement of a Janet Jackson concert until next fiscal year will also impact the budget.
   
   Pratt & Whitney Stadium
   
   · CRDA is requesting $800k from the State Bond Commission for the authorized clearing of a 10-acre wooded parcel acquired as part of the UTC/Pratt naming rights deal. Such area is needed as the lots previously leased from UTC for overflow parking are being torn up as part of the outlet mall construction at Rentschler Field.

 

[Drew]

CRDA minutes 1/8/16

http://www.crdact.net/data/Unsorted/1-8-2016-DRAFT-VenueCmteMinutes-73324-1.pdf

Found myself laughing by the end of this. So ridiculous that every single bullet point ends in a negative. Sad really but that's the state of Hartford/XL.

By the way- and I love UConn hockey- there's no way they didn't see the attendance drop coming. Look at the national average for college hockey. Combine it with UConn's struggles so far and that's what you're gonna get. Obviously the BC and ND types will draw well but they don't make up most of the schedule

 

[ct06111]

Found myself laughing by the end of this. So ridiculous that every single bullet point ends in a negative. Sad really but that's the state of Hartford/XL.

By the way- and I love UConn hockey- there's no way they didn't see the attendance drop coming. Look at the national average for college hockey. Combine it with UConn's struggles so far and that's what you're gonna get. Obviously the BC and ND types will draw well but they don't make up most of the schedule

Well, I've been paying way too much attention to UConn Hockey attendance. Not much nationally. I bet they were expecting it to be higher with the increased Season ticket holders from last year
Currently 3rd in all home games
http://www.hockeyeastonline.com/men/statistics/1516/oaattend.php
UML: 5,532 (20-7-5)
BC: 5,235 (23-4-5)
UConn: 5,166 (5,396 last year and #1) (9-19-4) So, pretty dang good for a crappy record, but SHOULD be better

#10 last yr nationally, now, #12
http://www.uscho.com/stats/attendance/division-i-men/2015-2016/

1st in hockey east only home games:
http://www.hockeyeastonline.com/men/statistics/1516/coattend.php
UConn: 5,701 (5,879 last year)
UML: 5,644
BC: 5,202

Everyone should go to the last conference home game this friday @ XL.(Senior Night) We need the 2 points for potential home ice!
http://ev9.evenue.net/cgi-bin/ncomm...ntext=&pc=&caller=&appCode=&groupCode=HS&cgc=