Good People dont throw Good People to the floor. My thoughts

[Tonyc]

If Im the ref. Griner is thrown out of the game and suspended. There is no room in WCBB for a person like this. THis isnt the first time and to do it twice in a game sends the message that it Will be Tolerated. So maybe all big post players should start throwing opponets to the floor????? I was at the game and Stef hit the deck 4 times, twice by Griner that I saw. Griner should be Suspended. If it happens again shes gone for the season. If we meet Baylor again and a UConn player throws Griner to the floor and hurts her and she cant play I can only imagine the press and remarks. She should be in a boxing match not a BB game. It is very evident to me Griner has a problem get rid of her before she hurts somebody. Good people dont throw good people to the floor. Bad people do.


As for the game. UConn came out high flying and maintained that high level for most of the first half. The 2 traveling calls on Stef when she took the ball from the foul line to the hoop, I was sitting there and imo it was not a travel. Then Stefs block and a ref called a foul. I dont know about that either. Those calls seemed to deflate UConn. The high energy at the beginning of the game was gone.

Early on UConn was getting inside and making fast break layups. In the second half Baylor did. We lost by 6 points and I felt we played pretty good. The difference was foul shots and rebounds. Two things Geno was screaming about the past couple of games. Dont foul and box out. We only got to the line 4 times. Alot of that had to do with UConn not getting inside.

We will learn from this game, and we will get better because of it. UConn is a very very good team as is Baylor. We're still growing and learning and will be better the next time we meet. I was pretty surprised we lost. I had my eyes opened as to how good Baylor played and their defense was great. We'll see what happens the next time we meet.

 

[gibhunter]

Can you imagine the outcry if the refs called a flagrant 2 on her. To throw out the sports' biggest star for something that that Dolson may have been faking? It wasn't a punch or anything like that, it looked more like a tug to slow her down that looked worse than intended. Then UConn wins the game and thinks that everything is great while in reality there are a bunch of flaws that need fixing.

While I agree that she shouldn't have done it, I agree with the call.

 

[Icebear]

Faking, rewatched it there was no faking involved.

 

[Blueballer]

Can you imagine the outcry if the refs called a flagrant 2 on her. To throw out the sports' biggest star for something that that Dolson may have been faking? It wasn't a punch or anything like that, it looked more like a tug to slow her down that looked worse than intended. Then UConn wins the game and thinks that everything is great while in reality there are a bunch of flaws that need fixing.

While I agree that she shouldn't have done it, I agree with the call.

Is that what the 2nd one was? A "tug". More like a Flagrant throw-down wrestling move.
That's the issue isn't it? The reluctance to throw out the sports biggest star.

 

[EricLA]

Faking, rewatched it there was no faking involved.

To even suggest that Dolson "may have been faking" is a joke. I rarely call out other posters, but that is a really stupid comment by Gib.

I can totally understand supporting the refs decision, but to call out Stef as possibly faking is just crazy. I've watched every Big East tourney game live since Stef has been at UCONN and the amount of physical abuse and punishment she takes from defenders is mind boggling. Yet she's always slogged through it. I've never seen her retaliate or fake a charge (or anything related to it). Honestly I just don't get a post like that - how anyone could honestly think that, never mind actually post it as a UCONN fan.

 

[OneTrickPony]

Any comment by Mulkey yet...? During Brittany's freshman incident, the explanation was all the trash talk Brittany was taking in the Big 12...somehow, I don't see that excuse playing against UCONN, and especially Stef...

And...worth noting...the punch Brittany threw as a freshman was in retaliation for a throwdown attempt by Barncastle that wasn't as bad as the one Brittany pulled on Stef after her first flagrant...

 

[Bestiarius]

Can you imagine the outcry if the refs called a flagrant 2 on her. To throw out the sports' biggest star for something that that Dolson may have been faking? It wasn't a punch or anything like that, it looked more like a tug to slow her down that looked worse than intended. Then UConn wins the game and thinks that everything is great while in reality there are a bunch of flaws that need fixing.

While I agree that she shouldn't have done it, I agree with the call.

In my view, it was just as bad as "the punch". We were starting to forget the punch, but this brought it back to the front page. It has nothing to do with winning or losing the game. Without those two actions, we would have had no complaints about a loss. I'd say she lost a lot of fans Monday night, people who respected her and no longer do.

 

[pap49cba]

I'd say she lost a lot of fans Monday night, people who respected her and no longer do.

And I have lost all respect for Mulkey who didn't lift a finger to try to get her big 'star' under control.

 

[OneTrickPony]

And I have lost all respect for Mulkey who didn't lift a finger to try to get her big 'star' under control.

And if Brittany was correct in saying that Kim told her to just play through it (i.e., don't let it bother you), then she's letting the big girl down...

 

[GrizBear]

Never expected this kind of whining on this board.
You people are seeing things that didn't happen.

 

[OneTrickPony]

Never expected this kind of whining on this board.
You people are seeing things that didn't happen.

He whined...

 

[Lynx23]

The bigger "head-scratcher" for me is how does a ref who observes it a few feet away not call something? Anything? I'm not calling out the ref here because I know they have a tough job but I would love to know what the (lack of thought) process was? So you don't want to toss WCBB's presumed best player, but nothing? As far as UCONN's getting to the line, yes, that could have been better but you gotta love the replay of Lewis driving to the bucket shown maybe four or five times, in which she gets hacked each time and, once again, no call! For me the loss occurred because of the three assists we gave Baylor for layups. That's six points right there. And I agree with Tony about the traveling calls on Dolson early on. She hesitated or jerked each time as if about to take a step but never lifted her pivot foot. For the record, I wouldn't have wanted to see Griner ejected.....you have to play and beat the best, to be the best. Stanford winning without Sims on the floor means nothing, in my opinion. But a little more fairness, please! And any Baylor fan who comes on this board trying to rationalize the throwdown because of the physicality of the overall play, is just wearing green and yellow blinders. I didn't see Dolson attempt to throw anybody down. Being physical is one thing but, well that was just another thing altogether.

 

[CCinCT]

Never expected this kind of whining on this board.
You people are seeing things that didn't happen.

If it didn't happen, why is on my DVR ?????

 

[diggerfoot]

Never expected this kind of whining on this board.
You people are seeing things that didn't happen.

Granted the OP was a little over the top by being so judgmental. As far as people seeing things, it does not really matter what you thought you saw or what we thought we saw. In a high profile game two plays involving Griner got a lot of airtime. What matters is what future opposing coaches think they saw in those plays as they bend the ears of referees; or even what the future referees of your games think they see in those replays. Even if you thought Dolson gave as much as she got, even if you thought she was flopping or uncoordinated at times, the focus is on Griner for the two replays that coaches and referees have been watching across the country since last night. So you think they'll see nothing? LOL my friend. I'm actually kind of excited about future prospects resulting from all the airtime these plays received. Might have been the best thing to happen for us down the road.

 

[Blueballer]

Never expected this kind of whining on this board.
You people are seeing things that didn't happen.

For example?

 

[alexrgct]

Baylor deserved to win the game.

Griner deserves to be called a punk.

I don't see these two points as being mutually exclusive.

 

[terif831]

Never expected this kind of whining on this board.
You people are seeing things that didn't happen.

I would LOL but I can't because of my MHOWMJOTF (Mouth Hanging Open With My Jaw On The Floor).

 

[msf22b]

I was at the game, didn't see what caused the 2nd fall; the refs huddled for a quite a bit during the time-out and didn't make a call.
With regard the first pull-down and the called deliberate foul, there was absolutely no arguement from Kim when the call was made; a bit of discussion after Geno walked away but no arguement. She knew.

 

[Tonyc]

Heres one video Click on it http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:8961326&startTime=01:21

http://espn.go.com/womens-basketball/ another video

What really bothers me is the ref didnt call anything and then calls Stef for a foul when Griner drives to the basket. ??????????? Terrible . Bumping is one thing throwing to the floor. Well lets see what happens if they throw Griner or Sims or Diggins to the floor. A big named player.

 

[RadyLady]

Never expected this kind of whining on this board.
You people are seeing things that didn't happen.

You will never admit that you have a problem until you leave the great state of Denial.

Look at the film again. Now in your mind switch the players and have Stefanie do to Britney what was done to her. Now how do you feel about it? When the shoe is on the other foot my guess is that you will be seeing it without the rose colored glasses...

I was a Griner fan. I am no longer. When she is challenged she cannot handle herself except with unsportsmanlike behavior. That is not an admirable trait. Shame on her.

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[Icebear]

Never expected this kind of whining on this board.
You people are seeing things that didn't happen.

Sorry, it is all on film and very clear.

 

[UCONNfan1]

Total bush league. But Griner gets away with that kind of muggery because it's allowed. It's allowed by the refs, the coaches, and everyone who surrounds her. Coach told her to "be more aggressive" in the 2nd half. I guess that included uncalled for flagrant fouls.

I don't believe it was a bad as "the punch", but Griner is a punk with a nasty attitude and I hope someday soon she's put in her place by an opposing player. I can see her getting knocked on her ass often in the pro leagues. And no way the European, Russian, or other international leagues put up with her crap. She'll get hers soon enough.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Kim told BG to be more aggressive. I think BG took that too far.

 

[Blueballer]

You will never admit that you have a problem until you leave the great state of Denial.

Look at the film again. Now in your mind switch the players and have Stefanie do to Britney what was done to her. Now how do you feel about it? When the shoe is on the other foot my guess is that you will be seeing it without the rose colored glasses...

I was a Griner fan. I am no longer. When she is challenged she cannot handle herself except with unsportsmanlike behavior. That is not an admirable trait. Shame on her.

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You will never see a UCONN player make that dirty a play. BUT if the situation were reversed the recording doesn't lie . She too would then deserve the two flagrants and the ejection. I'll take it a step further. If Stef had done it twice she would have been called for it twice and ejected. I don't think the refs made a mistake I think that was a decision they made to not do anything to bring about the ejection of the games current best player. Otherwise they could have easily consulted the replay and made a ruling as they did the first time.

 

[ThisJustIn]

You will never see a UCONN player make that dirty a play. BUT if the situation were reversed the recording doesn't lie . She too would then deserve the two flagrants and the ejection. .

Exactly as I remember the Duke-Ann Strother incident. Everyone on the board took her to task. No one gave her a name in celebration of her actions.

I'm in no way excusing or condoning what Griner may have gotten away with, but the holier that thou-we-are-UConn stuff wears a little thin.

Just ask Mazzante.