Good Luck Liam!!!! | Page 3 | The Boneyard

Good Luck Liam!!!!

Lamelo Ball/ Tre Mann
Kon Knueppel/ Josh Brown
Brando Miller/ Josh Okogie/ NcNeeley
Miles Bridges/Grant Williams
Jusuf Nurkic/Moussa Diabate

Solid fringe playoff seed.

Need to upgrade the 4 and move on from that duo.
 
TBHreal said:
Liam secured a 4yr/14.1m dollar contract (last 2 yrs are options so guaranteed money is around 5.7m for the first two years). Confirms it was the correct choice to leave and also is guaranteed money vs. a 2nd round pick.
Expand ...
It was definitely still the right choice to leave, but the 1st round vs 2nd is a valid discussion. For example Tyler Kolek got $6.6M guaranteed last year as a 2nd rounder
 
navery12 said:
It was definitely still the right choice to leave, but the 1st round vs 2nd is a valid discussion. For example Tyler Kolek got $6.6M guaranteed last year as a 2nd rounder
Expand ...
If you asked 100 end of 1st round/2nd round prospects if they'd rather have ~$5.7M guaranteed or nothing guaranteed but a CHANCE to get a little more going in the 2nd round, I think 99 would pick the $5.7M in the bag.
 
.-.
ctbro1999 said:
If you asked 100 end of 1st round/2nd round prospects if they'd rather have ~$5.7M guaranteed or nothing guaranteed but a CHANCE to get a little more going in the 2nd round, I think 99 would pick the $5.7M in the bag.
Expand ...
Most of those 2nd round deals are negotiated before the draft even happens, teams want to know or at least have a rough idea of what it'll take to sign those guys before they pick them
 
TBHreal said:
Liam secured a 4yr/14.1m dollar contract (last 2 yrs are options so guaranteed money is around 5.7m for the first two years). Confirms it was the correct choice to leave and also is guaranteed money vs. a 2nd round pick.
Expand ...

Yeah but….hes on one of maybe the three worst franchises in the league. I guess it is if its just a money thing.
 
Deepster said:
Yeah but….hes on one of maybe the three worst franchises in the league. I guess it is if its just a money thing.
Expand ...
I mean he should be able to earn some good PT.....no Reed Sheppard situation I'm thinking.
 
navery12 said:
Most of those 2nd round deals are negotiated before the draft even happens, teams want to know or at least have a rough idea of what it'll take to sign those guys before they pick them
Expand ...
Also, Kolek's deal was $6.6M guaranteed over the first 3 years, so on an annual basis still less than the last 1st rounder gets.
 
Deepster said:
Yeah but….hes on one of maybe the three worst franchises in the league. I guess it is if its just a money thing.
Expand ...
Well he’s getting paid that AND playing basketball so not the worst life on the world. For that kind of coin I’d come and fight off any bears shtting in your yard.
 
.-.
StllH8L8ner said:
Well he’s getting paid that AND playing basketball so not the worst life on the world. For that kind of coin I’d come and fight off any bears shtting in your yard.
Expand ...
Yeah, no need to deal with classes and college student life, just 100% basketball now.
 
RayRay19 said:
Def, take the guaranteed money on a team that has PT wide open. Charlotte wants shooting and they invested into it. All they need is stability with the GM and coach, Liam will do the rest.
Expand ...
What is the guaranteed money at 29 and compare the money he would have made with NIL and the impact of improved possible draft position next year?
 
jibsey said:
What is the guaranteed money at 29 and compare the money he would have made with NIL and the impact of improved possible draft position next year?
Expand ...
Next year's draft class is pretty loaded too. Have 2 projected All-NBA players in Dybansta and Patterson. Then the Boozer twins, Nate Ament, Alijah Arenas, etc. Even if Liam came back and had a BEPOY type season, very possible he'd still be a fringe lottery pick as he'd have 1 more year of tread off his tires. Not to mention the injury risk.
 
StllH8L8ner said:
Well he’s getting paid that AND playing basketball so not the worst life on the world. For that kind of coin I’d come and fight off any bears shtting in your yard.
Expand ...
thumbnail_IMG_2748.jpg


I'll let you know the next time this fella comes through...
 
Given where he ended up being selected you could argue that leaving Storrs early may not have beennoptimal, but it clearly wasn't a terrible decision. I do wonder if so many of his high school teammates leaving early influenced his decisions. I could understand him wanting to keep pace with his peers.

Wishing him all the best and will watch him get buckets at the next level.
 
ctbro1999 said:
Next year's draft class is pretty loaded too. Have 2 projected All-NBA players in Dybansta and Patterson. Then the Boozer twins, Nate Ament, Alijah Arenas, etc. Even if Liam came back and had a BEPOY type season, very possible he'd still be a fringe lottery pick as he'd have 1 more year of tread off his tires. Not to mention the injury risk.
Expand ...

He was projected to go anywhere from what, 13-20? Roughly? To him, that was worth leaving school. Would he have left if he were projected to go 29, which implies he could’ve fell to the 2nd round? I kinda doubt it.

Still, there’s not much sense in applying hindsight because he made a decision that worked best for him given the facts at the time.

Having said all that, if he had come back and wound up turning in a BEPOY season, that heavily implies the incoming class and roster would’ve made a deep run in the NCAAT. Fringe lottery pick implies what, 12-15? That would’ve been an acceptable outcome.
 
.-.
Let's see how Day 2 shakes out - Charlotte has more picks and how many rookies do they want? Might trade Liam and down to get a more established player.

Else Liam should have asked Cooper about food in North Carolina not lobster rolls.
 
EnochRoot said:
He was projected to go anywhere from what, 13-20? Roughly? To him, that was worth leaving school. Would he have left if he were projected to go 29, which implies he could’ve fell to the 2nd round? I kinda doubt it.

Still, there’s not much sense in applying hindsight because he made a decision that worked best for him given the facts at the time.

Having said all that, if he had come back and wound up turning in a BEPOY season, that heavily implies the incoming class and roster would’ve made a deep run in the NCAAT. Fringe lottery pick implies what, 12-15? That would’ve been an acceptable outcome.
Expand ...
I think if he was told "you are gonna be drafted end of 1st round and it's possible you may fall into the 2nd" he would have seriously considered coming back for another year. But pretty much everyone thought he was solidly #15-25 pick material (except a few 5D-chess playing BY'ers who thought he was mid 2nd round), with still an outside chance of going in the lottery. Pretty much no one had Liam as a 2nd rounder. Unless you expect to be a top 5 pick, if you're told you're pretty much guaranteed middle of 1st round pick, you go.

His end result of going #29 is actually pretty similar to Karaban's projections last year, as he was in that late 1st round/early 2nd round range. Then Alex came back for another season and it didn't go the way he wanted (including getting injured), so now he's gonna be a Husky for a 4th year.

Now that Liam's in the NBA on a guaranteed contract, hopefully he can flourish.
 
Although not the place he (or we) hoped he would go, the fact that he gets a guaranteed contract in the first round means it was a good decision. He'll make way more than he could have earned with NIL, and there's no guarantee coming back a year would have improved his position significantly. Plus there's the injury risk. Plus the delayed year of earning an NBA income is huge, along with the added year of age. The sooner he gets to his second contract, the better.

It was a close call (second round would have been devastating), but in the end Liam is in a good position financially. Charlotte is under new management, so it's unfair to paint them with that old brush. Playing time should be available, so now it's up to Liam to perform and earn his place in the league.
 
SellersElbow said:
Given where he ended up being selected you could argue that leaving Storrs early may not have beennoptimal, but it clearly wasn't a terrible decision. I do wonder if so many of his high school teammates leaving early influenced his decisions. I could understand him wanting to keep pace with his peers.

Wishing him all the best and will watch him get buckets at the next level.
Expand ...
People scoffed at the idea he would go low, when any pair of honest eyes saw it coming. He’s lucky he didn’t fall out of the 1st round. I hope he thrives but I’m not seeing much more than a journeyman on a good day. He just doesn’t have the physicals to hang with NBA super freaks.
 
ctbro1999 said:
I think if he was told "you are gonna be drafted end of 1st round and it's possible you may fall into the 2nd" he would have seriously considered coming back for another year. But pretty much everyone thought he was solidly #15-25 pick material (except a few 5D-chess playing BY'ers who thought he was mid 2nd round), with still an outside chance of going in the lottery. Pretty much no one had Liam as a 2nd rounder. Unless you expect to be a top 5 pick, if you're told you're pretty much guaranteed middle of 1st round pick, you go.

His end result of going #29 is actually pretty similar to Karaban's projections last year, as he was in that late 1st round/early 2nd round range. Then Alex came back for another season and it didn't go the way he wanted (including getting injured), so now he's gonna be a Husky for a 4th year.

Now that Liam's in the NBA on a guaranteed contract, hopefully he can flourish.
Expand ...

He was always a one and done. And now it's done. He will pocket a minimum of five bucks. Probably much much more.
 
ctbro1999 said:
If you asked 100 end of 1st round/2nd round prospects if they'd rather have ~$5.7M guaranteed or nothing guaranteed but a CHANCE to get a little more going in the 2nd round, I think 99 would pick the $5.7M in the bag.
Expand ...
yep bird in hand
 
.-.
Marat said:
As the title says - "Good luck Liam !!" in the NBA . I'm sure he will do fine.

He was very humble and smiling as he was the last one picked from the room. He didn't show he was upset or angry like Mr Wolf.
Expand ...
Eventually the dam broke and tears flowed, you could tell he was relieved and excited. Go get em Liam!
 
Liam's response to being drafted to play in the NBA -and achieving one of his life's goals-seemed sincere and mature. Now it's time to get to work and become part of the rotation. Begin building leverage for that second contract. Having Kemba around mentoring him is going to help as well.
 
It was the right decision to go in the first round. I do think if he had stayed, he would've been drafted much higher in next year's draft. But, who knows, right? He's now a multimillionaire who will get to play the game that he loves at the highest level. Hard to call that anything but a huge win.
 
I’m looking up salaries now. Liam gets 2.8 million guaranteed for 2 years so 5.6 million. Based on his performance when that runs out he should be able to get another contract worth 20 million right? But even if bounced from the league he has his 5 million.
 
TBHreal said:
Liam secured a 4yr/14.1m dollar contract (last 2 yrs are options so guaranteed money is around 5.7m for the first two years). Confirms it was the correct choice to leave and also is guaranteed money vs. a 2nd round pick.
Expand ...
Clingan's deal at #7 is literally TWICE as much (4yrs $31.1M). Staying at UConn for an extra $17M seems like a better option IMO
 
.-.
You must log in or register to reply here.

Forum statistics

Threads
168,160
Messages
4,555,219
Members
10,438
Latest member
UConnheart


Top Bottom