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UCONN-NYC said:
www.espn.com

Sources: Gonzaga in talks with Big 12 about joining conference

Gonzaga is in talks with the Big 12 about the possibility of joining the conference, sources told ESPN.
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Biggest takeaway I got was that both the PAC12 and Big East were also in talks with Gonzaga. I read this as it’s up in the air between the 3, and only the big 12 leaked enough to have ESPN do a story on it. I think all 3 leagues have their pros and cons. If I was Gonzaga personally I’d go with the PAC12, but lots of different variables.
 
FlippinCrazy! said:
Biggest takeaway I got was that both the PAC12 and Big East were also in talks with Gonzaga. I read this as it’s up in the air between the 3, and only the big 12 leaked enough to have ESPN do a story on it. I think all 3 leagues have their pros and cons. If I was Gonzaga personally I’d go with the PAC12, but lots of different variables.
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I think Gonzaga, not the Big 12, leaked this as the other two leagues were also confirmed to have had talks with the Zags.
 
Big East makes the most sense for basketball but really that’s it. Pac is definitely the best choice for distance and the rest of athletics but if I’m Gonzaga I would need to know for sure no one else is leaving in the next couple of years
 
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NJHusky said:
How does a one trick pony leverage that to a Big 12 invite??? Yet UConn with multiple NCs in multiple sports…..

So much for FB being the key
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They obviously would be receiving a much smaller payout. Probably in the range of our Big East payout. It makes perfect sense that a weakened PAC 12 or B12 would offer them and go Hybrid. The Big East thrived for years as a hybrid until ESPN intentionally destroyed it.

I'm glad we can put to rest the idea of them joining the BE.
 
Waquoit said:
Gonzaga as a BB only and UConn as a FB only. Announced at the same time.
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That would be wonderful, but it doesn't make much sense that they would want our football program without basketball. I'm hoping for a full invite to the B12. Root for the PAC12 to survive so the B12 has to look east for expansion.

If AD Dave Benedict can get football in the B12 and keep everything else in the BE then give him a lifetime contract and build the statue ASAP.
 
shizzle787 said:
I think Gonzaga, not the Big 12, leaked this as the other two leagues were also confirmed to have had talks with the Zags.
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Why would Gonzaga leak this?
 
Why would the Big 12 want us as FB only
Unless there is some kind of men’s and women’s BB deal even if only a scheduling deal.
It will be the best BB conference in the country maybe the best ever if the Zags and U of A get added
The Norrtheast presence is interesting
Plus with Cinn,UCF. And West Va it helps those schools
 
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metsfan2323 said:
That would be wonderful, but it doesn't make much sense that they would want our football program without basketball. I'm hoping for a full invite to the B12. Root for the PAC12 to survive so the B12 has to look east for expansion.

If AD Dave Benedict can get football in the B12 and keep everything else in the BE then give him a lifetime contract and build the statue ASAP.
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The Big East is weak regarding baseball. Big 12 would be better home.
 
When the Big 12 was considering expansion the first time they were doing from a position of strength. Losing Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC and more or less backfilling with the American is not the same position of strength. UConn I guess would be a better fit at this point but I’m sure if they were interested they would have reached out earlier this year. Adding basketball only is def a weird look for them as a conference.
 
UCONN-NYC said:
When the Big 12 was considering expansion the first time they were doing from a position of strength. Losing Oklahoma and Texas to the SEC and more or less backfilling with the American is not the same position of strength. UConn I guess would be a better fit at this point but I’m sure if they were interested they would have reached out earlier this year. Adding basketball only is def a weird look for them as a conference.
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But Oklahoma and Texas are not really top basketball schools. They are pretty good.

If anything, Kansas and Baylor might see the value in Houston and Cincy hoops.
 
shizzle787 said:
Leverage. They get three leagues fighting for them.
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Nobody is fighting for them other than the WCC. They might be praying and hoping that somebody would want them, but I doubt it.
 
upstater said:
Scratching my head trying to figure out what the B12 gets out of this.

You're flying to the pacific northwest from Oklahoma, Cincinnati and Orlando? For a basketball game?
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It's once a year or every other year for the other teams. Gonzaga has the travel, but more money and exposure. The Wcc is losing Byu and will be even weaker. This tv deal and early renewal is in my opinion all tied into other moves which are gonna fall. Espn and Fox may already have had this or something similar with Pac teams, and it will now play out. Gonzaga can get a lot more money and exposure than they currently get by hooking up with these two networks, and honestly probably would prefer regular tv over streaming. I really wonder what the P12 will get if the Oregon's of the world won't commit. Gonna be interesting, but paying Gonzaga for their games makes sense for Fox and Espn the same way ND and Byu had it in football. Gonazaga also would get more games outside of the dreaded west coast time zone which would mean more exposure. P12 doesn't have that. An enhanced basketball share for a team like Gonzaga is a drop in the bucket on these big football driven contracts, particularly when it only involved one team. Unique situation, and Yomark is a unique hire.
 
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HuskyHawk said:
Nobody is fighting for them other than the WCC. They might be praying and hoping that somebody would want them, but I doubt it.
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The BigEast wants Gonzaga. Not to fight tooth and nail, but it would get done.
 
Peacefrog said:
A school has to be invited. If we were to be invited to join the Big 12 we would have our application hand-delivered the next day.
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thanks for the reply, was very curious about that
 
Peacefrog said:
A school has to be invited. If we were to be invited to join the Big 12 we would have our application hand-delivered the next day.
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You would expect a phone call from CT to B12 tho
 
Gonzaga has been the top dog in the West Coast Conference for a while now, but a report by ESPN's Pete Thamel noted the program is considering a move to the Big 12. While the Bulldogs have proven to be a national powerhouse on a consistent basis, West Virginia coach Bob Huggins thinks Gonzaga might not be ready for that new level of competition.

"To get in this league and play who we play day after day, I would think it would be a tremendous awakening," Huggins told reporters Thursday. "You don't get to make your own schedule in the Big 12."

www.cbssports.com

West Virginia coach Bob Huggins says Gonzaga would face 'tremendous awakening' if Bulldogs move to Big 12

Gonzaga is reportedly considering a move to the Big 12
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
 
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HooperScooper said:
Gonzaga has been the top dog in the West Coast Conference for a while now, but a report by ESPN's Pete Thamel noted the program is considering a move to the Big 12. While the Bulldogs have proven to be a national powerhouse on a consistent basis, West Virginia coach Bob Huggins thinks Gonzaga might not be ready for that new level of competition.

"To get in this league and play who we play day after day, I would think it would be a tremendous awakening," Huggins told reporters Thursday. "You don't get to make your own schedule in the Big 12."

www.cbssports.com

West Virginia coach Bob Huggins says Gonzaga would face 'tremendous awakening' if Bulldogs move to Big 12

Gonzaga is reportedly considering a move to the Big 12
www.cbssports.com www.cbssports.com
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Bob is right. Even in the Big East, Gonzaga would never again be a 1-2 loss top 5 team.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Bob is right. Even in the Big East, Gonzaga would never again be a 1-2 loss top 5 team.
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They could certainly be a top 5 team, they've clearly been one of the best teams in college basketball for years now. It's rare anyone in college basketball only has 1 or 2 losses in a season though.
 
superjohn said:
They could certainly be a top 5 team, they've clearly been one of the best teams in college basketball for years now. It's rare anyone in college basketball only has 1 or 2 losses in a season though.
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I don’t think they’d very often finish first playing in a real league. A couple of their teams could have over the years, but they’ve often been overrated. The grind of a tough league is just different.
 
I tend to agree with Huggins in the sense that it's much easier to beat 15 and 16 seeds in the tourney than it is a 11 seed because you've racked up more losses.

So much of the tourney is matchups rather than season resume.

Just get to the 2nd weekend and then anything can happen.
 
Yeah. Major conference coaches know Gonzaga is a great team with a great coach. They also know that the Zags resume isn’t that strong. I’m surprised Huggins bothered to say it. It isn’t worth the possible blow back.
 
upstater said:
I tend to agree with Huggins in the sense that it's much easier to beat 15 and 16 seeds in the tourney than it is a 11 seed because you've racked up more losses.

So much of the tourney is matchups rather than season resume.

Just get to the 2nd weekend and then anything can happen.
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That's why they don't seed the tournament based on losses.
 
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