Gonzaga/Rutgers

[tomcat]

I've been wondering about Gonzaga's seeding since I saw it. Seemed way wrong, and this proves it. I figured them for a 6 or so. Anyway, I like watching them when they're hot, as they were at times in this game. Sorry to see a BE team lose, but I just cannot bring myself to cheer for a team that plays the way Rutgers does.

 

[RoyDodger]

In CT I'm ready for ESPN to switch to a more competetive game. TENN may look awful but they are not going to lose THIS game. Where's that "whip-around" coverage you were talking about?

I think "Whiparound" coverage has been changed to "Standaround."

 

[RockyMTblue2]

I've been wondering about Gonzaga's seeding since I saw it. Seemed way wrong, and this proves it. I figured them for a 6 or so. Anyway, I like watching them when they're hot, as they were at times in this game. Sorry to see a BE team lose, but I just cannot bring myself to cheer for a team that plays the way Rutgers does.

Zags have something in the air ... actually I suspect that the mens exploits in the last several years are a manifestation of something real good about the campus and the student body and that stuff rubs off. And hopefully and NCAA investigation will not follow. As an aside: What a horrible mess for the UC mens' program and Coach JC ... the men's game is a quagmire and I hope the womens game - across all divisions and conferences can stay out of it.

 

[HuskyNan]

Are they showing the post game interviews anywhere?

Press conferences and other videos are available on the NCAA tournament site.

 

[RoyDodger]

Because without doing that the NCAA would lose even more money. Women's basketball is not the only sport that is handled this way.

I understand that there are economic and other factors in women's basketball that are very different from the men's. But it seems pretty ridiculous that a team like Rutgers, seeded #6, should have to travel across country to Spokane, WA, to play a lower-seeded team on their home court (and especially when the teams are in the Kingston, RI, Region), while our guys get to stay within a few miles of home and never have to get on a plane (except, hopefully, to make it to Denver and the final four). I'm just talking about fairness. That would seem to me to be something that should be an important element in scheduling tournaments of such stature.

When you say women's basketball is not the only sport handled this way, I presume you are referring to NCAA tournaments in other sports. Is that right?

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Press conferences and other videos are available on the NCAA tournament site.

Thanks Nan. The presser subsite gives us 3 P Summitt snippets ( yeah, my word of the day) and 3 other Lynn University and ilk opps. As of 3:07 Eastern S Time. I am not blaming you. I will keep checking. Love the Avatar by the way. Don't stop changing.

 

[Wonkster]

Faster than my soup can arrangement. LOL

Maybe a soupçon faster.

I hope you allow the Toucans a break and a smoke.

Their labor union will only let me use these guys during the toucans' breaks:

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Maybe a soupçon faster.

Their labor union will only let me use these guys during the toucans' breaks:

OKAY, you dah man man....too funny!

I surrender...'til I get my computer back up and running.

Stop Heckling me!

 

[pap49cba]

Press conferences and other videos are available on the NCAA tournament site.

I looked earlier but I couldn't find ANY press conferences.

 

[Wonkster]

I'm not defending Rutgers in any way, but the women's basketball tournament has inherent unfairness in it. Why in the world should any team, such as Gonzaga, play their opening round games at home? I understand that is not the case in the men's tournament. I was watching a game from the Pit in Albuquerque and noticed that the New Mexico Lobos were playing at the same time in another city. That's the way it ought to be.

I disagree.

The position you advocate reduces to this: You, Team X, can slack off the whole season, just squeeze into the NCAA 64(+) teams that will play (only 64 - gee, isn't that inherently unfair, too?) and you'll get treated in the same way as a team that wins 90% of their games and has performed magnificently during the regular season.

Exactly what, then, is the incentive to play hard during the regular season and conference tournament games?
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[Icebear]

Press conferences and other videos are available on the NCAA tournament site.

Thanks, Nan.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Stringer said she had trouble communicating with her team because of the crowd noise.

"It probably looked great on television and it was good for them," she said of the noise. "We've got to be able to handle that."

And they couldn't handle all of Gonzaga's scoring options.

"They execute extremely well," Stringer said.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncw/recap?gameId=320770164

"The Scarlet Knights had only one field goal in the first 10 minutes as Gonzaga took a 16-point lead behind a pair of 3-pointers by Karr."

HHHMMMMMMMMM....for CVS this is growth...stay tuned for more.

 

[Kait14]

The Zags are crushing Rutgers, 20-4!

Ouch!

Called this one!!!

 

[Coler]

On to next season. Now I'm getting behind Delaware & GA Tech!

 

[RockyMTblue2]

On to next season. Now I'm getting behind Delaware & GA Tech!

We will remember.

 

[Coler]

We will remember.

Next year, I think we'll be far better without Sykes.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Next year, I think we'll be far better without Sykes.

May the Scarlet Knoghts return to former competitiveness skywalker.

 

[RoyDodger]

I disagree.

The position you advocate reduces to this: You, Team X, can slack off the whole season, just squeeze into the NCAA 64(+) teams that will play (only 64 - gee, isn't that inherently unfair, too?) and you'll get treated in the same way as a team that wins 90% of their games and has performed magnificently during the regular season.

Exactly what, then, is the incentive to play hard during the regular season and conference tournament games?
.

Sorry, Wonkster, I don't get what you're getting at. Fairness in this situation means that all the teams are treated as much as possibly alike when it comes to venue. In other words, no one gets to play on their home court. I don't see what that has to do with incentive during the season. The incentive is to get into the tournament, not to have an inherent advantage by playing one's games at home.

 

[RoyDodger]

I should add that if all the #1 seeds got to play at home, it might make sense as far as incentive is concerned. But they aren't. Notre Dame is at home, UConn is near home, Baylor has to play in Bowling Green, KY, and Stanford played in Norfolk, VA.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

Sorry, Wonkster, I don't get what you're getting at. Fairness in this situation means that all the teams are treated as much as possibly alike when it comes to venue. In other words, no one gets to play on their home court. I don't see what that has to do with incentive during the season. The incentive is to get into the tournament, not to have an inherent advantage by playing one's games at home.

In a purest's world. But, then, what forums would the women play in? But I would argue that there are a few models that suggest the "regular season" is made more earnest and hard played, by giving an advantage to the regular season winners in the playoffs. Indeed, even in the jaded world of professional athletics - a term I use with derision mostly - it is something that keeps the winners from taking a lot of games off while they tweet their dislike of the coach, or their rousing support of someone on America's Got Talent, or a picture of their most recent conquest.

 

[RoyDodger]

In a purest's world. But, then, what forums would the women play in? But I would argue that there are a few models that suggest the "regular season" is made more earnest and hard played, by giving an advantage to the regular season winners in the playoffs. Indeed, even in the jaded world of professional athletics - a term I use with derision mostly - it is something that keeps the winners from taking a lot of games off while they tweet their dislike of the coach, or their rousing support of someone on America's Got Talent, or a picture of their most recent conquest.

I could accept a home court advantage for the higher seeded teams, if that was done on a consistent basis. As I said earlier, if all #1 seeds played at home, it would be like home field advantage in other sports' playoffs. But that isn't what's happening! ND plays at home, UConn plays in Connecticut, Baylor plays in Kentucky, and Stanford in Virginia. And when #6 Rutgers has to travel across country to #11 Gonzaga and play on Gonzaga's home court.......????

Life is unfair, but that doesn't mean that a college sports tourney should provide advantages to some undeserving teams over others.

 

[RockyMTblue2]

"Life is unfair, but that doesn't mean that a college sports tourney should provide advantages to some undeserving teams over others."

"It's so unfair being in the middle." Malcomb.

 

[Icebear]

I could accept a home court advantage for the higher seeded teams, if that was done on a consistent basis. As I said earlier, if all #1 seeds played at home, it would be like home field advantage in other sports' playoffs. But that isn't what's happening! ND plays at home, UConn plays in Connecticut, Baylor plays in Kentucky, and Stanford in Virginia. And when #6 Rutgers has to travel across country to #11 Gonzaga and play on Gonzaga's home court.......????

Life is unfair, but that doesn't mean that a college sports tourney should provide advantages to some undeserving teams over others.

You need to be able to win on another team's court if you want to be a champion. Everything else is excuses. St. John's beat UConn at home. Stanford cam east to win. You do it and move on.

 

[connboy77]

Next year, I think we'll be far better without Sykes.

If April had gone to UCONN her career might have been completely different!

 

[RoyDodger]

You need to be able to win on another team's court if you want to be a champion. Everything else is excuses. St. John's beat UConn at home. Stanford cam east to win. You do it and move on.

That's not the point. Of course, a team needs to be able to win on the road to be a champion, but there need to be basic rules of fairness and standards in organized activity, including sporting events. I'm simply arguing against inconsistency of treatment of teams of equal stature. I'm repeating myself, but why in the world should a #6 like Rutgers (and I couldn't care less about Rutgers per se in this matter) have to travel 3,000 miles and play on the home court of a #11? Whey should two #1 seeds get to play at or near home while the other two have to travel significant distances? In other words, why can't the NCAA committee arrange its bracket in a way that puts teams of equal stature or quality (i.e., seeding) in essentially the same playing circumstances? Seems like a rather obvious concept to me.