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I get why the NOOB would do it. Not sure I get what’s in it for Gonzaga. It sort of has a Butler redux feel. Added them because they went to 2 straight Championship games. Now they are sort of eh. I don’t quite get why the Zags would choose to join an east coast centric league. They have been incredibly successful where they are, playing local opponents and building a huge rep. In the NOOB they are at a huge disadvantage with the travel that doesn’t really even out. They need to travel 1500-3000 miles or more multiple times. Other teams go to them once each. I also have to assume this would be a basketball only deal. Can you imagine shipping your volleyball team across the country for a game? Baseball coming to Elliot for a weekend series?
 
This type of move has got to scare the shit out of programs like PC and Hall. They were bottom dwellers before the OBE fell apart. The smaller, concentrated league has helped them take their programs to the next level.
 
kobe said:
a mid-major conference adding a member on the other side of the country has never backfired.
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I get that you are excited for your football team, but your basketball team is going to get destroyed.
 
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McLovin said:
I’ll take Gonzaga. The logistics will work themselves out.

I hope Val has a backbone to stand up to Fox and doesn’t let them water down the league with anyone else (the only semi-realistic outside shot school that would add value is Notre Dame, but they ain’t joining).

The NBE is at an all time high point considering recent success + coaching hires. Anyone other than Gonzaga joining will just get to ride those coat tails while dragging down the profile of the league. Not smart for the current conference members.
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agreed, but i think if they do this they have to add at least one other west coast school
 
This isn't much of a fit, but the burden would mostly be on Gonzaga so I have no issue with it. It doesn't really make much sense, but it would add a fantastic program to the conference so sign me up.
 
Dooooooomed said:
Lots of people talking in the WCC. Pepperdine PA guy told it's happening by someone in the know. Now former St Mary's player told by St Mary's HC Bennett that it's happening...

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That is not the actual player, it’s a fan page.
 
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WhereistheDove? said:


Well, right or wrong, Goodman has added his two cents.
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I've gotten the sense that Goodman is kind of a blowhard, and has muddied the line between his opinion and inside sources.
I don't really trust anything he says that doesn't say "Sources have told Stadium..". I think he gets off on attention and the fact that he's reached some level of authority in the college basketball world.

He clearly got off on his whole "PC being lucky" shtick, as if he invented that. It was kind of cringey. Also he just replies to like random dudes on Twitter, getting into arguments. It's weird.
 
Dooooooomed said:
Lots of people talking in the WCC. Pepperdine PA guy told it's happening by someone in the know. Now former St Mary's player told by St Mary's HC Bennett that it's happening...

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That's not a former St. Mary's player.. it's a fan account. The former play is "Jock" not "Jack" anyway.
 
I've been preaching about Gonzaga to the Big East for a while before it was popular. The Zags are the only team you add to the Big East outside of the power conferences that adds value.

If a second team needed to be added to appease FOX and give the Zags a travel partner: San Diego State would a great school that has very good basketball tradition, and doesn't hurt the conference.

#ZagsToBigEast
 
HuskyinWRNY said:
agreed, but i think if they do this they have to add at least one other west coast school
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When we joined the Big East, I thought it would have been smart to expand to 14 teams by adding 3 more teams. Wichita (when Gregg Marshall was still there), Gonzaga and BYU (who we could schedule an annual FB game with).

Those were the only sexy options IMO at the time, and now 2 of 3 are no longer available.

Plus Wichita State exposed the potential risk of bringing in a team who’s success is heavily reliant on the HC.
 
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If Gonzaga is “added” it should be a 4 year scheduling alliance type thing. I don’t even know if thats possible, I doubt it. We can feasibly give them 12 games but full membership would be misguided.

St, Marys? San Francisco? Now I’m seeing posters advocating Wichita State or St Louis? Hardest of passes- bad enough we have Creighton and Butler on the schedule

(Yes I know I have no leg to stand on calling out Creighton, seeing as they own our asses)
 
Tyler2Rings said:
If Gonzaga is “added” it should be a 4 year scheduling alliance type thing. I don’t even know if thats possible, I doubt it. We can feasibly give them 12 games but full membership would be misguided.

St, Marys? San Francisco? Now I’m seeing posters advocating Wichita State or St Louis? Hardest of passes- bad enough we have Creighton and Butler on the schedule

(Yes I know I have no leg to stand on calling out Creighton, seeing as they own our asses)
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We might as well add St Peter’s while we’re at it. And maybe Loyola of Chicago. The New Big East already has too many marginal teams. Adding a bunch of midmajors to get Gonzaga is just numb. Reality is that there aren’t 3 or 4 major programs out there. And adding a mid-major to a higher level league doesn’t change its trajectory automatically. I doubt anyone can say adding adding the 2 midwestern teams to the NOOB has really made them major powers, nor has it added a whole lot to the NOOB. They are more or less what they have always been. High mid-majors. Capable of winning a game in the tournament, Creighton won 2 last year, but getting further would be pretty shocking. And it isn’t like being in the NOOB helped that happen. They’ve won games before in the tourney.
 
freescooter said:
We might as well add St Peter’s while we’re at it. And maybe Loyola of Chicago. The New Big East already has too many marginal teams. Adding a bunch of midmajors to get Gonzaga is just numb. Reality is that there aren’t 3 or 4 major programs out there. And adding a mid-major to a higher level league doesn’t change its trajectory automatically. I doubt anyone can say adding adding the 2 midwestern teams to the NOOB has really made them major powers, nor has it added a whole lot to the NOOB. They are more or less what they have always been. High mid-majors. Capable of winning a game in the tournament, Creighton won 2 last year, but getting further would be pretty shocking. And it isn’t like being in the NOOB helped that happen. They’ve won games before in the tourney.
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Is this a troll Boneyard account?
 
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Billy Bob said:
Maybe you can bring the greenhouse situation up at Davos where all the hollywood phony celebs and "business leaders" go to on their private jets.
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You seem like youre not familiar with the term "Carbon offset"
 
navery12 said:
It's a 2 hour flight, that's nothing. Which is why nobody complains about traveling to play DePaul
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LOL. Do you fly? I fly to Detroit constantly. Direct from Hartford. THAT is over 2 hours. You on the Concorde?
 
HuskyHawk said:
I'm not sure you appreciate how far Spokane is. It's 1377 miles from Omaha, the westernmost Big East location. That's further than Hartford to Omaha. It's not comparable to the travel UConn had in the American. It's much, much worse.
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I'm so happy my son reneged on his job at U of Idaho - that's 90 minutes from Spokane. I was dreading those trips. It is a hike for sure. And no direct flights.
 
BlueJayFan said:
Troll account.

The player’s name is Jock Landale, not Jack.
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It’s not a troll account. Apparently, according to the Gonzaga board, Jack Landale is friends with Few and is a big-time bettor out west. He has connections to the program. He is not Jock Landale, but he is connected.
 
HuskyHawk said:
Hate it. Do not want regular west coast games. It feels desperate.
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From my perspective, it would be better than travelling to Middleonowhere, Nebraska.
 
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