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Deepster said:
Does that make Portland "UConn Pacific Northwest" and OKC "UConn Midwest"?

What a stupid post.
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One thing for sure Deep. After a zillion years on this board your posts are as meaningless as always. Anonymity has allowed you the freedom to be a moron without the risk of getting punched in the face.
 
UConn Hoops1 said:
For a very long time I stopped watching NBA hoops altogether for a number of reasons(most of them debatable or arguable). About three years ago (aided by the fact that I have NBA TV plus TNT), I started watching again. I was immediately attracted to teams that reminded me very much of the college game because of their style of play, the intense passion and unity of their fans, the designs of their arenas, and, in some cases, the personalities of both their players and coaches. AND, to one degree or another these teams reminded me why I have been a passionate UCONN fan for 50+ years. SO I have t-shirts that I wear regularly for the Blazers, Pacers, Thunder and Warriors.

Clearly, there are many other arguments or reasons for loyalty to any NBA team. However, regarding the NBA Finals, I very definitely wanted Golden State to win. I have never believed(in fact it is one of the turnoffs about all sports) in the "cult of personality"; but only in the "commitment to team". When LeBron made that statement after Game 5 about being the best player in the world I wanted to hurl. In fact, I thought it was, intended or not, a slap in the face to his team mates. There is no doubt Lebron that you will have a special place in NBA history when all is said and done. BUT, this summer I think it might help if you develop some understanding of "team". Maybe you could come to the new basketball facility in Storrs. They do a great job teaching the concept. Then next year you can start the season knowing(with some help from the Cavs front office) that you don't have to do it all by yourself. :)


BRAVO GOLDEN STATE!!! MANY MORE!!!
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I wanted the Warriors too and I love to root against LeBron. And I love ball movement and dislike "Isolation basketball."

But -- I take the opposite view of what made you want to hurl.

I despised LBJ for going to Miami because he an Wade aren't really complimentary players. LBJ was the best in the game / still is and he joined Wade so he can win a title. I get that. But 1st off imo these guys were amazing in the open court. Now when they paly together, teams pack the paint and slow the game down so now I'm supposed to appreciate that as basketball fan?

Secondly, LBJ was /is the best in the game. In the playoffs a 1 or two point game in final seconds he was content in being "a decoy." My God-- the best player in the world was content being a decoy on a last possession play in the playoffs. In other words, he was content to follow Wade.

Third- the media covered for him. When you listen to guys like Colin Cowherd it gets sickening how much they think their hero is near perfect and/or look to tear other greats down to build up their man. All great players have some weaknesses. LBj's collapse in the 10-11 Finals plus his last game struggles vs Celts last game before that he wasn't as aggressive late either-- it could be attributed to nerves. Which is why I think he joined Wade.

Thus it made me sick that the greatest player in the world was a coward. He was better than Kobe for a long time. He was best in NBA for many years. Stop being a coward and hiding behind Wade's skirt. His 1st year in Miami that is what I thought he exactly did. I want the greatest player in the world to act like one. ANd IMO he joined with Wade because he was scared and as mentioned I didn't think they were a good fit. For example, this year he did what he used to do in Cleveland years ago- he tried his best to take over. Now Just look at last year's NBA Finals - LBJ shot 57%. They couldn't stop him. Shot 52% from 3. Why the hell wasn't he taking more shots?

IMO he wasn't taking more shots because he didn't want to offend his buddy DWade. That's cowardly crap and as a fan of BASKETBALL - it upsets me that the best player in the world is concerned about offending teammates this deliberately lowering his game. When he said "I'm the best player in the world"- I loved it. He is. I'll still root against him - but at least for me - he showed he didn't give a damn who he offended - unlike after his 1st year with Heat when he said after they lost or start of next season "he didn't want to wear a black hat because he wasn't like that." What a wimp. When I heard that I thought "You're the best player in the world, act like it you big baby." He is finally acting like it. He IS the best and they had a chance because of his play. Though game 6 he still likes to pretend he is Magic Johnson. That's why in my book he can never be GOAT.
 
hoophuskee said:
IMO he wasn't taking more shots because he didn't want to offend his buddy DWade. That's cowardly crap and as a fan of BASKETBALL - it upsets me that the best player in the world is concerned about offending teammates this deliberately lowering his game.
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This is why message boards are great. You express a completely baseless opinion, you admit it's just your opinion, and then you explain why your unfounded opinion is the predicate for your assertion that, in this case, Lebron is a coward.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
This is why message boards are great. You express a completely baseless opinion, you admit it's just your opinion, and then you explain why your unfounded opinion is the predicate for your assertion that, in this case, Lebron is a coward.
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Or maybe my opinion is correct? I'm not the 1st one that has suggested he used to get nervous and stop driving. Note I said "used to." Heard Stephen A SMith say it among others.

You see what makes these boards so great is that you can offer opinions and even though some posters want to pretend that they are a lawyer - you can basically ignore them and continually post.
 
UConn Hoops1 said:
One thing for sure Deep. After a zillion years on this board your posts are as meaningless as always. Anonymity has allowed you the freedom to be a moron without the risk of getting punched in the face.
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Oh hogwash. If you wanna meet to discuss the stupidity of that post, I'll buy the beers.
 
I have no idea what the original post was about, but it had that touchy-feely vibe, so I hated it.

And LeBron can say he's the best player in the world because he's the best player in the world. James carried Cleveland's corpse right through to the Finals and to write that the guy who averaged about nine assists in the series needs to spend the offseason learning how to play on a team is just dopey.
 
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BigErnMcCracken said:
This is why message boards are great. You express a completely baseless opinion, you admit it's just your opinion, and then you explain why your unfounded opinion is the predicate for your assertion that, in this case, Lebron is a coward.
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I think this is why message boards are great, pathetic dbags like you can sit in your own filth and toss personal insults. Just hop from thread to thread looking for someone to act like a dick to, at a time you got under my skin but now I just find it so entertaining (at your expense)
 
Kembacity said:
I think this is why message boards are great, pathetic dbags like you can sit in your own filth and toss personal insults. Just hop from thread to thread looking for someone to act like a dick to, at a time you got under my skin but now I just find it so entertaining (at your expense)
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You seem pretty upset here.
 
CallMeBruce said:
You seem pretty upset here.
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Do I? Its fitting for you to pick up the fight since you're basically BigErnMcDBag Jr, but I tend to see some valid posts from you that aren't simply to pile on or prod at someone and offer nothing else to the conversation.... some
 
Kembacity said:
Do I? Its fitting for you to pick up the fight since you're basically BigErnMcDBag Jr, but I tend to see some valid posts from you that aren't simply to pile on or prod at someone and offer nothing else to the conversation.... some
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You might want to look and see who is getting nasty and calling people names here. BEMC was arguing with a post that stated, unequivocally, that LeBron is a coward. This is a nonsense opinion, and it deserves derision. If you post stupid things on the Internet, in a public forum such as this, you shouldn't be surprised when people disagree with you.
 
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I thought the Clips/Spurs series was good.
I thought anything with LBJ in it was good.
I thought the rest was fairly boring.
I didn't watch the NBA from early 90s through to a few years ago, which coincided w/LBJ going to Miami. Watched his runs there, and now this year.
In a few years, when he retires, I'll probably stop watching the NBA again.
I recognize that the run and gun style of the GSWs is probably the future of the NBA, along with all of the moving screens, shirt grabbing, and crappy defense throughout the NBA, but I'm just not entertained by a watching ever more 3 pointers get jacked up. Run down, no D, jack the 3. Run down, no D, jack the 3. Make it 2.5 points or get rid of it altogether - it's become too easy.
 
Once again, the NHL trumps the NBA. All of the NHL games are good, only a few NBA games were. That's why the NBA sells "stars" instead of the game.
 
Waquoit said:
Once again, the NHL trumps the NBA. All of the NHL games are good, only a few NBA games were. That's why the NBA sells "stars" instead of the game.
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The reason the NHL is "better" is because there is no such thing as unsportsmanlike conduct. You don't get in trouble for talking smack (to players or referees), its a full contact sport so there's no room for pu****s or complaining, and it's extremely high paced.
BUT, the NHL regular season is just as brutal as the NBA's.
 
UConn Hoops1 said:
For a very long time I stopped watching NBA hoops altogether for a number of reasons(most of them debatable or arguable). About three years ago (aided by the fact that I have NBA TV plus TNT), I started watching again. I was immediately attracted to teams that reminded me very much of the college game because of their style of play, the intense passion and unity of their fans, the designs of their arenas, and, in some cases, the personalities of both their players and coaches. AND, to one degree or another these teams reminded me why I have been a passionate UCONN fan for 50+ years. SO I have t-shirts that I wear regularly for the Blazers, Pacers, Thunder and Warriors.

Clearly, there are many other arguments or reasons for loyalty to any NBA team. However, regarding the NBA Finals, I very definitely wanted Golden State to win. I have never believed(in fact it is one of the turnoffs about all sports) in the "cult of personality"; but only in the "commitment to team". When LeBron made that statement after Game 5 about being the best player in the world I wanted to hurl. In fact, I thought it was, intended or not, a slap in the face to his team mates. There is no doubt Lebron that you will have a special place in NBA history when all is said and done. BUT, this summer I think it might help if you develop some understanding of "team". Maybe you could come to the new basketball facility in Storrs. They do a great job teaching the concept. Then next year you can start the season knowing(with some help from the Cavs front office) that you don't have to do it all by yourself. :)


BRAVO GOLDEN STATE!!! MANY MORE!!!
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I was intrigued by your title and had hoped you dive more into that thought. Now I didn't quite have that same thought the other day, but did enjoy Golden State's style of play. I wouldn't say that our style is just like theirs, but there are some similarities. Neither deploys much of a post game, nor a throw it in and kick it back style either. They both play a lot of screen, drive, kick-out, midrange, etc. type of action. The one thing I did like that GS used occasionally is weakside backdoor cuts when the drove or threw the ball around the mid-area of the paint. They'd flash guys in who took advantage of open lanes, something I wish KO would deploy more often. More than once I thought that Bazz and Kemba would be a great fit for this team or this type of system.

On a loosely related note, I'm still not sure if the decrease in post offense is a byproduct of the more recent rules or a lack of dominant and skilled big men. With more and more players at all positions improving their ability to handle the ball, having a big 4 and/or 5 that clog the lane does cause unwanted traffic in and around the paint. I guess having the personnel to play different styles would be ideal. Just think if the Cavs had a couple big physical but relatively mobile bigs forcing GS's smaller players to guard them more closely in the post. Depending how the officials call a given game, they would be prone to not only give up points in the paint but pick up a lot more fouls. The Cavs simply didn't have enough inside nor outside threats to give GS problems. Would a young Shaq have dominated or influenced what we saw in the playoffs this year? Would mobile bigs like Parrish or Ewing resulted in more conventional offenses being successful? Anyhow, it will be very interesting to see how things play out with the bigs who are in and coming into the league over the next few years, in relation to the newer rules and offenses philosophies we're starting to see with some of the more successful NBA teams.

Lastly, although I'm not a big fan of the way that Lebron carries himself his comment about being the best player in the world was somewhat taken out of context. With that said, I'd prefer he'd not make such comments and talk team more often. But you have to keep in mind that he is constantly being attacked by the media and he's only stating the obvious, that the team (talent level) that was on the floor in the finals pretty much sucked. If you took him off that team, they'd likely be battling it out for a lottery pick. The fact that they won 2 games and were competitive for at least 3 quarters in the other games, shows you how fricken talented he is. With that said, it'd be best he just take his lumps, try to have his teammates' backs by saying things like, "They're working hard and doing the best they can, many in different roles from what they played all year, etc." That type of talk would be received a whole lot better. Any fan or media person with half a mind would realize that the Cavs were under-manned and that it is unlikely that anyone else on the planet could have carried that team like he did. Like it or not, he's a PG, SG, SF in a Center's body. I'm simply amazed that GS was even able to slow him as much as they did. I think if it wasn't for fatigue, James could have carved their D up all night long if he was more assertive and had a lot more gas in the tank. Again, I'm not a big fan of how he carries himself, but am a big fan of his game (power, skill, unselfishness, rebounding, etc.) Other than some lapses in FT shooting, he's got it all. If not for the fatigue factor, it wouldn't be such a bad idea to surround him with guys who can shoot Js and a few who can catch, drive and finish.
 
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DogMania said:
I was intrigued by your title and had hoped you dive more into that thought. Now I didn't quite have that same thought the other day, but did enjoy Golden State's style of play. I wouldn't say that our style is just like theirs, but there are some similarities.
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There are similarities between UConn and EVERY NBA TEAM because UConn runs a pro style offense.
 
was going to start a new thread, but wont bother.

calipari is at it again.

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Same ish with the 'triangle of success' he touted... the guy is always in the media talking about some obvious strategy in a way that makes it seem novel, which it isn't. if he was so into positionless hoop he should have put poythress or randle at the 5 when we were smacking them with ball screens in 2014.
 
Kembacity said:
I think this is why message boards are great, pathetic dbags like you can sit in your own filth and toss personal insults. Just hop from thread to thread looking for someone to act like a dick to, at a time you got under my skin but now I just find it so entertaining (at your expense)
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This made me laugh. Take a deep breath. Reschedule that anger management class you seem to have skipped.
 
CallMeBruce said:
You might want to look and see who is getting nasty and calling people names here. BEMC was arguing with a post that stated, unequivocally, that LeBron is a coward. This is a nonsense opinion, and it deserves derision. If you post stupid things on the Internet, in a public forum such as this, you shouldn't be surprised when people disagree with you.
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Typical. As the other poster said you make some valid points on other threads. Probably a ton. But on here - you read what you want to read. If you really think I said he is a coward now- please show me where I said it? Below in bold I never said he is a coward. Please see my last paragraph I said I loved how he said he was best in the world.

Let's not try to re-write other people's opinions to fit your own agenda. And if you want - I can start calling your opinion on this subject close-minded nonsense that wants-media-to-think-for-you etc too. Is that what you want to this board to turn too? How far do you want to go? I'll oblige you if you want to continue. Read below and please tell me where with this or my other posts where I said "He IS a coward. "

I;m giving him big-time kudos for what he IS now. Not the guy he WAS with Miami. Even Wade says he sees a different LBJ. Whyi is LBJ different? Why did LBJ allow himself to be a decoy on a playoff game with Heat when game was on the line the last seconds? Why did he fold so bad vs the Mavs? Why?

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports....-different-focus-and-look-that-i-havent-seen/



Thus it made me sick that the greatest player in the world was a coward. He was better than Kobe for a long time. He was best in NBA for many years. Stop being a coward and hiding behind Wade's skirt. His 1st year in Miami that is what I thought he exactly did. I want the greatest player in the world to act like one. ANd IMO he joined with Wade because he was scared and as mentioned I didn't think they were a good fit. For example, this year he did what he used to do in Cleveland years ago- he tried his best to take over. Now Just look at last year's NBA Finals - LBJ shot 57%. They couldn't stop him. Shot 52% from 3. Why the hell wasn't he taking more shots?


When he said "I'm the best player in the world"- I loved it. He is. I'll still root against him - but at least for me - he showed he didn't give a damn who he offended - unlike after his 1st year with Heat when he said after they lost or start of next season . . .
 
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DogMania said:
Would a young Shaq have dominated or influenced what we saw in the playoffs this year? Would mobile bigs like Parrish or Ewing resulted in more conventional offenses being successful?
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I think so. Of course they'd need talented teammates. I wouldn't call Memphis among the best ever teams and they were up in the series with their pg coming back from being hurt and their elite defender going down/ was a shell of what he once was earlier in the series.
 
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Its funny. I live in the Bay Area and watched a majority of the GS Warriors games this season. It was a dream season. They team played together. No egos, all about winning. Perfect chemistry and amazingly fun to watch. Not only because of their offense but also their defense. Everyone seems to forget that they were the number one ranked defensive team in the NBA.

As a UConn fan you had to love them. Played amazing defense, holding most teams to under 40 percent shooting all season. It was a joy to watch them switch off players and communicate on D. Draymond Green was a beast defending and could handle a player almost at every possession along with Iggy's great one man defensive ability. Klay Thompson was the defender on Harden most of the Rockets series and gave up his offensive skills to make sure he kept Harden in check. And Bogut when he played blocking shots even though most players thought they could get past him. And Barnes who played solid D and also made important shots all through the post season.

Then you had one of the most amazing benches ever. Iggy (who ended up being the MVP), Livingston who could play point and post up any of the smaller defenders he had, Mo Buckets Spreights who was instant offense, The Brazilian Blur, David Lee, a former All-Star who sacrificed his minutes for the team, Ezieli who could be a starting center on most other teams. You also had Justin Holiday and McAdoo way down the bench who contributed big time during the regular season. Such an amazing squad.

And, oh yeah, they have one of the most amazing shooters ever in Steph Curry.

It was an absolute joy watching them play and win as a team like all the great UConn championship teams. I soaked up the victory on Tuesday night and I'm going to enjoy watching the parade tomorrow!
 
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Just thought I'd add a nice little article from Marc Stein. Only a week ago - one of the papers I was reading blasted us LBJ Haters. Of course in my "baseless" opinion- the writers from that paper and many, many others that love LBJ know of the below article - yet they'll do what they've always done, slam us haters and close their eyes of not wanting to read anything negative of their beloved.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3896/lebrons-handling-of-blatt-unbecoming

As a basketball fan, for me, this guy is just so easy to hate and root against. And it becomes comical from media, to writers and to fans that always seem to offer up excuses for the guy while slamming us haters.
 
hoophuskee said:
Just thought I'd add a nice little article from Marc Stein. Only a week ago - one of the papers I was reading blasted us LBJ Haters. Of course in my "baseless" opinion- the writers from that paper and many, many others that love LBJ know of the below article - yet they'll do what they've always done, slam us haters and close their eyes of not wanting to read anything negative of their beloved.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/3896/lebrons-handling-of-blatt-unbecoming

As a basketball fan, for me, this guy is just so easy to hate and root against. And it becomes comical from media, to writers and to fans that always seem to offer up excuses for the guy while slamming us haters.
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This is what you did in your other post. You invented a narrative and then commented on it. I know, I'm so mean.

The idea that Lebron is immune from criticism is hilarious. He is a magnet for criticism. You've either been asleep for the entirety of his career or you're making up something and then criticizing that thing you made up. Wow - just like you did before!
 
hoophuskee said:
As a basketball fan, for me, this guy is just so easy to hate and root against. And it becomes comical from media, to writers and to fans that always seem to offer up excuses for the guy while slamming us haters.
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What excuses do they need to make?

He's so far and away the best player on the planet that second place isn't even in a close orbit. He just carried a lottery-worthy roster into the Finals and managed two wins. You can count the number of guys who can do that with one finger.

Off the court, he's basically silent - he has a wife, kids and never causes even a hint of scandal.

There's a lot to hate - if you're a miserable screwball.
 
BigErnMcCracken said:
This is what you did in your other post. You invented a narrative and then commented on it. I know, I'm so mean.

The idea that Lebron is immune from criticism is hilarious. He is a magnet for criticism. You've either been asleep for the entirety of his career or you're making up something and then criticizing that thing you made up. Wow - just like you did before!
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What's comical is that you continue to read what you want to read, and bury your head in the sand with the rest. I clearly said I was reading an article from a aper I read slamming other LBJ Haters. How dare us haters hate a player they love. What we have here is over and over posters like you, the media such as the article I read, continue to live in your own fantsasy that LBJ doesn't get's treated with kid loves.

Why did he collapse vs the Mavs? We hear from posters like you and groupies like Colin Cowherd- nothing. Or we get such brilliant insight maybe coming from you such as "I don't know because I can't prove it." Okay nobody can offer an opinion unless you feel it has warrant to be proved in your own world.

Why did LBJ allow himself to be a decoy in last play out-of-bounds play vs the Pacers in the playoffs when he was clearly the best player in the world?

Why didn't he take more shots last year vs the Spurs in last year's finals when he was no doubt nearly unstoppable?

WHy do guys like Charles Barkley pretend it is okay for LBJ on the last play pas the ball to Udonis Haslem on a last second shot to Udonis Haslem who was shootng under 30% from 10-15 feet - yet whiy is it the haters get criticized by guys like Barkley instead of calling it like it is? He made a bad decision. But for those of us that criticize him in this instance, we get villified. So here's the play "and enjoy."



Keep burying your head in the sand every time he makes a mistake and listen to guys like Barkley, Colin Cowherd and below is an example of some dude from the media-- all don't want to criticize their beloved EVEN when he messes up. I'd be okay if he made would say yeah he made a bad play. But some of the bigger voices in media - they don't criticize this. Instead they vilify the opinion that he blundered. It's nonsense. Barklely ripped him for THE DECISION. After that he treated him with kid gloves just because he was/is the best. Who says you can't criticize the best player?

http://blogs.herald.com/miami_heat/...-final-shot-after-another-brilliant-game.html

Or when Mike Francesa during last year's NBA final's - in 1st game or two maybe the 3rd- he's talking to Evan and Joe and to paraphrase he claimed the Spurs were deliberately keeping the ball away from LeBron as the Spurs ran their offense. Ohh GOD -- PLEASE JUST STOP IT!!

Yeah right. This is the same guy when comparing LBJ vs Jordan- he claimed "Jordan only guarded 2's." Sure we get it that LBJ has an ability to guard more-- but to make this comment that he only guarded 2''s? Heck- I hate Jordan too- BUT I can remember him guarding Magic in the Finals for the 1st half- then who did Mike F think Jordan was guarding in the 2nd half of the finals in 90-91? It was Vlade Divac- a center. And in game 3 or 4 Lakers were making a huge run- Magic was destroying Pippen, What happened? Jordan went back to guarding Magic, he slowed Magic down just enough, Bulls won.. And yet you have a prime time guy like Mike F - totally mis-characterizing Jordan and how the Bulls played while he was comparing him to LeBron. It is so transparent than some in the media despise people that criticize LBJ just as I told you about the paper I was reading specifically highlighted their disgust of LBJ Haters. It's so comical.

And how about Van Gundy on draft night after 2011 season Heat lost he was asked why did he think so many fans hated the Heat? His reply to paraphrase was "I don't know I can't understand it. They play BEAUTIFUL basketball." The OP spoke of "wanting to hurl." It still mke makes me want to hurl. C'mon I would watch some of their games and analysts such as Kerr and maybe even Van Gundy during the season would speak of how they play "isolation basketball" and they need to get more players involved. Why would Van Gundy say that when dthe season many of saw and heard this flaw of the Heat? Who did he think he was kidding? I don't expect an answer from you. Just more burying your head in the sand and pretending the media hasn't covered for LeBron James at times. For the record imo LBJ is the 5th greatest player in basketball history.
 
Lookit you, man. You're writing small essays on this. You --and anyone who hates on anyone, let alone a professional athlete, let alone the greatest in the world at their respective sport-- need a life. Get a hobby and write about that. Read a book and write about that. Something more mentally stimulating than talking about another human who is just doing what they do, which ultimately does not actually affect you in the least (you're posting like it/they do).

Maybe you need a little break from the internet. You clearly have too much emotional going on over this and way too much unused mental energy.
 
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