girls game-halftime talk with susan and bro

[caw]

I don't know if the UVa UConn rumors came from that quote which was 5 days before it became a big deal around here or if those rumors are exclusive of that one comment.

I'm not a glass half full guy but Delany doesn't say things for no reason. So either he was just using UConn as a prop to threaten the ACC by combining the geography with Virginia or he really covets our cable access fees.

UConn fans might not show for games but we will certainly pay a dollar a month for television access.

The Big Ten seems to be playing by a completely different criteria - they might care that UConn could be a great hockey program. They also currently have the best basketball league in the country and that is one area where we can hold our own immediately.

12 makes some sense. 14 doesn't. 16 makes some sense. 18 at least to me makes the most sense. The problem for the Big 10 becomes at 18 they need UM and OSU in different divisions but also need them to play every year.

I'm not stupid enough to get my hopes up but am a little bit hopeful. At least a lot of things that don't make sense would fall in place if the Big 10 was in play.

With the inclusion of UL, the ACC likely takes back the basketball crown with the Big Ten a close second. Of course UConn to the Big Ten would put them on even footing (more or less).

 

[whaler11]

With the inclusion of UL, the ACC likely takes back the basketball crown with the Big Ten a close second. Of course UConn to the Big Ten would put them on even footing (more or less).

In theory overall but I don't think this season.

 

[husky210]

Yeah, but we all thought that Aresco's comments couldn't be interpreted another way and we were wrong. We are all trying to hard and overanalyzing every tiny bit of information. I'm taking a new approach from now on. Try to see things through the eyes of the conference commissioners. When I went back and did that for the ACC, I can see how they picked UL. They are landlocked by the SEC and B1G. There are almost no pieces left on the board, and one of them was also in the B12 threat range...a league with only ten members. They wanted to take that piece off of the board. This is a game of Risk more than anything.

Now do the same for the other leagues. Ignore the noise. Be objective about each school.
The Pac is immune due to isolation. They only need to keep the MWC weak. Utah helped.

The B1G was landlocked. They made an incursion right at the mason-dixon line. That's no accident. They just isolated Syracuse and BC from their southern neighbors. In battle, you wouldn't advance south after such a move, you'd take out the opposition north of your line.

The SEC moved into B12 territory bigtime (first with Arkansas years ago) with MO and A&M, and into ACC territory with SC. They can't move north, but east or west are open to attack. But they only need two schools. UT and OU would be prizes, and UNC and UVA would be prizes.

The Big12 has battles to the north and southeast that it cannot win. Vulnerabilities on both sides. Small footprint and the west is wide open. Do they go after the east, or just leave it and go west? They are basically waiting for the next move.

How very Sun Tsu of you. I like.

 

[RMoore1999]

I'm not saying any of HFD's ramblings make any sense, but they make a lot more sense than implying that a single person in southern New England gives a flying f about Rutgers. I didn't know what a rutgers was until I moved to NJ. We do a better job of delivering both the NYC and Boston market than Rutgers does of delivering southern New England

Also if you look at it logically, we do offer the B1G more than we can offer the ACC. We don't expand the ACC's footprint, but we theoretically could put the B1G network on TVs in new england. Also our hockey and women's bball probably have a lot more value to the B1G than the ACC (not that they're worth a whole lot to either). Something to keep in mind is that B1G needs content. Not saturday during football season content, but off season content, and we can help provide that with our other sports which do very well.

Once you get used to the foreign language, HFD's ramblings actually make perfect sense. The only question is whether they originate from any actual source, or they are solely a result of HFD's deductive reasoning skills.

Either way, I hope they become reality.

#B1GHARDER

 

[businesslawyer]

What do you want her to say...

"Well, today UConn was a big loser. Not a surprise, tho, as the University had a loser AD and presidential stiffs for so long. And for that we will continue to lose..."

Well, that is sort of what football coaches do when they blame loses on the talent they are left by the prior coach. Why should Presidents be different?

 

[businesslawyer]

Her being lied to is actually the only situation that would explain her inability to come clean about it. Sadly, she can't call out the liars, because we still want to join them when they are desperate enough to invite us for real. We've got to keep playing Charlie Brown to their Lucy.

This. Having said that, she is not off the hook for believing what the liars told her and telling other people based on it.

 

[businesslawyer]

I just think that Delany didnt know what the hell he was talking about and referred to nyc/jersey as south NE and northern VA as Maryland/DC. Everyone on here just reaches and stretches every quote to mean what they want to hear and look where its got us...and HFD is tje Jonny MacEntee of tearing apart these quotes leading us off a cliff

You are entitled to your opinion. But I would guaranty you that, over time, you will make more money betting that Delaney knows exactly what he is talking about than betting that Delaney doesn't know exactly what he is talking about.

 

[UConnDan97]

Charlie Sheen said it Best....WINNING!!!!

I prefer this version better. The bottom line is that UConn is all about WINNING....(hopefully without banging the 7-gram rocks)...

 

[CL82]

Once you get used to the foreign language, HFD's ramblings actually make perfect sense. The only question is whether they originate from any actual source, or they are solely a result of HFD's deductive reasoning skills.

..or perhaps they are a product of the concussion he received in high school?

 

[Davidm]

Ok let me start off by saying #B1GHARDER but I hate to be a buzz killington but after reading several B1G school boards today I believe that the B1G will take BC (For some rediculous crazy reason) over UCONN. Apparently BC beats us out (albiet a small amount from what I'm told I don't know this for a fact) in market share and lets be honest thats the only reason we think Delany is even considering UCONN.

It appears that UCONN's reputation was actually hurt by having UL recieve the ACC invite now everyone on the B1G message boards are convinced we hold no value and are promoting taking UVA and BC (if they can't get any other football schools) over us, hell even Syracuse was mentioned but It's been pretty hard for me to find any group of fans that are advocating a UCONN to B1G move.

This has me worried sick, I bought some beer an hour ago, hopefully that remedies that.

(On a side note, I was looking for this list I found earlier of the supposed "value" each school adds in terms of football avg attendence, Academics, football performance, market share ect as a point system with every school in the country on it, Uconn was ranked immedietly following RU and MD I believe we came in 49, and on the same list it ranked UL at around mid 60's. Although this same list had BC at around 43 I believe with a higher market share)

 

[ctchamps]

I don't know if the UVa UConn rumors came from that quote which was 5 days before it became a big deal around here or if those rumors are exclusive of that one comment.

I'm not a glass half full guy but Delany doesn't say things for no reason. So either he was just using UConn as a prop to threaten the ACC by combining the geography with Virginia or he really covets our cable access fees.

UConn fans might not show for games but we will certainly pay a dollar a month for television access.

The Big Ten seems to be playing by a completely different criteria - they might care that UConn could be a great hockey program. They also currently have the best basketball league in the country and that is one area where we can hold our own immediately.

12 makes some sense. 14 doesn't. 16 makes some sense. 18 at least to me makes the most sense. The problem for the Big 10 becomes at 18 they need UM and OSU in different divisions but also need them to play every year.

I'm not stupid enough to get my hopes up but am a little bit hopeful. At least a lot of things that don't make sense would fall in place if the Big 10 was in play.

You're not stupid enough to admit you're stupid cause if you is a little bit hopeful it hits the first part of the sentence as you being a little bit stupid!

Me, I'm very stupid cause I'm very hopeful. I see the B!G going after Virginia next. It makes the most sense for Delaney's geographical push and would really hurt the ACC which is, imo, one of his aims. If Virginia goes then the ACC could face real problems and UConn could end up in the Old New BE with Miami, Pitt, Cuse, BC, Louisville. If Virginia holds fast to the ACC then UConn could get the invite from the B!G.

 

[caw]

Ok let me start off by saying #B1GHARDER but I hate to be a buzz killington but after reading several B1G school boards today I believe that the B1G will take BC (For some rediculous crazy reason) over UCONN. Apparently BC beats us out (albiet a small amount from what I'm told I don't know this for a fact) in market share and lets be honest thats the only reason we think Delany is even considering UCONN.

It appears that UCONN's reputation was actually hurt by having UL recieve the ACC invite now everyone on the B1G message boards are convinced we hold no value and are promoting taking UVA and BC (if they can't get any other football schools) over us, hell even Syracuse was mentioned but It's been pretty hard for me to find any group of fans that are advocating a UCONN to B1G move.

This has me worried sick, I bought some beer an hour ago, hopefully that remedies that.

(On a side note, I was looking for this list I found earlier of the supposed "value" each school adds in terms of football avg attendence, Academics, football performance, market share ect as a point system with every school in the country on it, Uconn was ranked immedietly following RU and MD I believe we came in 49, and on the same list it ranked UL at around mid 60's. Although this same list had BC at around 43 I believe with a higher market share)

I'm not saying any of that won't happen, but the B1G also took Rutgers when it was more or less rejected by the ACC.

 

[Davidm]

Straight from

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2350&t=10660744
That right there is what I was talking about :\ BC appears to have more value than us for some reason, although hopefully we become AAU faster (I believe they are no where near as close to that as us) although contiguous could be taken into consideration as well, these things worry me. I have no idea how the B1G could even consider BC because it just waters down their product by incredibly large amounts compared to the value they would bring in, less fans for games against BC I'm sure.





Value of B1G 10 Targets


http://frankthetank.wordpress....ig-ten-network/

CANDIDATES TOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE

Texas $101,369,004
Rutgers WITH NYC $67,798,609
Nebraska $54,487,990
Maryland $50,818,889
Boston College $48,382,692
Notre Dame $47,629,255
Kansas $46,320,092
Missouri $45,901,459
Syracuse $43,504,813
Connecticut $38,080,271
Pittsburgh $34,365,175
Iowa State $31,831,077

Syracuse WITH NYC $65,874,573

B1G 10 seem to be working from this list

 

[caw]

Straight from

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170&f=2350&t=10660744
That right there is what I was talking about :\ BC appears to have more value than us for some reason, although hopefully we become AAU faster (I believe they are no where near as close to that as us) although contiguous could be taken into consideration as well, these things worry me. I have no idea how the B1G could even consider BC because it just waters down their product by incredibly large amounts compared to the value they would bring in, less fans for games against BC I'm sure.





Value of B1G 10 Targets


http://frankthetank.wordpress....ig-ten-network/

CANDIDATESTOTAL ADDED REVENUE ESTIMATE

Texas$101,369,004
Rutgers WITH NYC$67,798,609
Nebraska$54,487,990
Maryland$50,818,889
Boston College$48,382,692
Notre Dame$47,629,255
Kansas$46,320,092
Missouri$45,901,459
Syracuse$43,504,813
Connecticut$38,080,271
Pittsburgh$34,365,175
Iowa State$31,831,077

Syracuse WITH NYC$65,874,573

B1G 10 seem to be working from this list

While interesting, it doesn't show anything about UConn with NYC, even if that's only a toe-hold. It also does not lend support to BC, necessarily. Notice the numbers are run for both Rutgers and Cuse with NYC.

Let's say it's only a 10 million bump as opposed to the 22 million Cuse gets, that moves UConn up to 48 million and a tie with BC.

 

[Dann]

i didn't know bc was in southern new england. fairfiled mother boston sacred college heart university.

there have been over 10 media reasons to know uconn is a target from jay paternos thinking that uconn was going first not rutgers to delany saying southern new england and so on. espn is trying with all its might to devalue us and slap us in the face right now becuase they finally got us in there stupid fuccking middle school league and we said no we got better shit going on. FTT blog is great. but that was done a while ago and that list needs updating. we crush bc's number now and every minute we are alivve we are gaining in nyc. every recruit and student added to uconn from the city brings another hood, apt building and gang into our tv viewers. they all love uconn becuase we take care of them. there players come here and make it ou the struggle, win ships go to the nba and get paid. then they go home and help the community with a uconn falg hanging off there pride for live. we are the future of nyc and delany sees that.

 

[husky210]

i didn't know bc was in southern new england. fairfiled mother ****ing boston sacred college heart university.

there have been over 10 media reasons to know uconn is a target from jay paternos thinking that uconn was going first not rutgers to delany saying southern new england and so on. espn is trying with all its might to devalue us and slap us in the face right now becuase they finally got us in there stupid fuccking middle school league and we said no we got better **** going on. FTT blog is great. but that was done a while ago and that list needs updating. we crush bc's number now and every minute we are alivve we are gaining in nyc. every recruit and student added to uconn from the city brings another hood, apt building and gang into our tv viewers. they all ****ing love uconn becuase we take care of them. there players come here and make it ou the struggle, win ships go to the nba and get ****ing paid. then they go home and help the community with a uconn falg hanging off there pride for live. we are the future of nyc and delany sees that.

It's all about the hoods. I will say this everyone in NYC knows who kemba is. They know where he went to school and what he did at the garden.

 

[Dann]

the other thing is this. if the b10 did add bc(trying to be real here), then u know that they are interested in uconn for sure also. its about cable boxes and the price u can get for the channel by the most people possible. so u dominate the market. same idea as md/uva in dc and duke/unc in nc. its the same idea as ruty in nyc needing a partner and ruty/psu being enough to capture phili. feel me?

 

[RMoore1999]

i didn't know bc was in southern new england. fairfiled mother ****ing boston sacred college heart university.

there have been over 10 media reasons to know uconn is a target from jay paternos thinking that uconn was going first not rutgers to delany saying southern new england and so on. espn is trying with all its might to devalue us and slap us in the face right now becuase they finally got us in there stupid fuccking middle school league and we said no we got better **** going on. FTT blog is great. but that was done a while ago and that list needs updating. we crush bc's number now and every minute we are alivve we are gaining in nyc. every recruit and student added to uconn from the city brings another hood, apt building and gang into our tv viewers. they all ****ing love uconn becuase we take care of them. there players come here and make it ou the struggle, win ships go to the nba and get ****ing paid. then they go home and help the community with a uconn falg hanging off there pride for live. we are the future of nyc and delany sees that.

Fuc$ing classic.

 

[whaler11]

You're not stupid enough to admit you're stupid cause if you is a little bit hopeful it hits the first part of the sentence as you being a little bit stupid!

Me, I'm very stupid cause I'm very hopeful. I see the B!G going after Virginia next. It makes the most sense for Delaney's geographical push and would really hurt the ACC which is, imo, one of his aims. If Virginia goes then the ACC could face real problems and UConn could end up in the Old New BE with Miami, Pitt, Cuse, BC, Louisville. If Virginia holds fast to the ACC then UConn could get the invite from the B!G.

I was drawing a distinction between getting my hopes up and being hopeful. I actually meant what I wrote.

 

[pj]

Since UConn helps with NYC, it's hard to believe BC could come out ahead of us in a TV $ analysis. The cultural fit of a state school is better also.

It's hard to believe Syracuse and Pitt add more than UConn. The B12 and SEC schools are probably out of reach now. That leaves ACC schools, ND, and UConn.

It seems to me they must be talking to ND and top ACC schools and seeing how many they draw from there and if they need a partner to even out an odd number of schools, UConn should be their target.

But there's no rush for the B1G. ND TV contract isn't up until 2015. ACC could break up if the B12 or SEC expand. Unless a top target decides to jump now, they can hold back a while.