Giffey improved while he was away from Ollie.

[Palatine]

Tough to say. It is true.

Now, the offense is designed in a way where he doesn't even get off a 3-pointer unless its in transition. He is shooting better than JJ Reddick from behind the arc. And we don't have a play to get him free? Isn't that what the offense should be designed to do? Put players in a position to take advantage of their strengths?

Yes, I know we have bigger problems. But if you had a player that hit over 50% from behind he arc, wouldn't you have one play that you could run to get him an open look?

 

[zls44]

Because if we ran a play for him that would mean one fewer play run for Amidah. Can't have that.

 

[SaeHusky]

Couldnt agree more - Just once I want somebody to set a screen for Giffey while Boat or Bazz has the ball at the top. All we do is Ball Screen. Its maddening at this point

 

[Palatine]

They have made a decision not to run a single play for Giffey.

It is a conscious decision. They never run a play to get him open for a three.

 

[Kitaman]

I wish a reporter would ask the question to Ollie. Not saying to run the offense through him but please explain the low number of shot attempts.

 

[Palatine]

He had three shots in the game. Two were offensive put backs.

So one shot in the design of the offense.

 

[ZackB05]

Ollie definitely needs to draw up some more plays for Giffey as he is absolutely under utilized but I also saw Giffey pass on some shots that he should have taken. Giffey needs to get a little Boatright in him. (Aggression/confidence)

 

[pj]

If they ran more plays for the wings, creating an extra threat, things would open up more for Bazz and Boat. Giffey, Kromah, and Calhoun can all score, and subbing them for each other keeps them fresh. They should be able to tire out their defender. The old Reggie Miller tire the defender out running through screens strategy. I think that would fit these team very well.

 

[WlfdHusky]

Giff does pass up a fair amount of open shots each game.

 

[James]

I would say kromah has the tools to be that third guy. I just don't see Giffey as a triple threat kinda guy. I've seen worst offense, our inability to get physical is the paint is more jarring to me.

 

[UC990411]

Remember when people were saying Niels was going to get drafted?

 

[mauconnfan]

Remember when people were saying Niels was going to get drafted?

Yeah they were quite the experts!!……..that was never happening even if he continued to shoot 70% all year……..there's a little more to the game than open 3's……...

 

[willie99]

you mean Bazz dribbling into the lane and then making a behind the back pass to Giff isn't enough of a play for you?

 

[gtcam]

Giffs passes up way too many open shots plus he doesn't move around a lot for openings.
Remember - when he was playing bball this summer it was with arguably better players, bigger and stronger, and many times that improves (or forces you) to improve your game.
He also didn't have distraction of school, studies etc.
He has regressed in some areas but I think I see an improvement in his rebounding and D.
He can be a scoring threat as we had seen in 1st 7 or 8 games.

 

[gtcam]

Yeah they were quite the experts!!……..that was never happening even if he continued to shoot 70% all year……..there's a little more to the game than open 3's……...

If push came to shove, I would take him over DD - but heavily doubt either goes
Giffs has toughness and a heart - something DD maybe has but we haven't seen it yet

 

[Danzz]

Tough to say. It is true.

Now, the offense is designed in a way where he doesn't even get off a 3-pointer unless its in transition. He is shooting better than JJ Reddick from behind the arc. And we don't have a play to get him free? Isn't that what the offense should be designed to do? Put players in a position to take advantage of their strengths?

Yes, I know we have bigger problems. But if you had a player that hit over 50% from behind he arc, wouldn't you have one play that you could run to get him an open look?

He also improved by being away from JC so what is your point? Agree that he should shoot more but Giffey can't really guard anybody. He is too slow to guard a 2/3 and too frail to guard a 4. Opposing teams do a lot of scoring from the wing against Giffey and Calhoun. Neither handle the ball or pass very well.
Still, this team would be fine if Bazz took control earlier instead of waiting for the second half to score. We are 1 shot away from having 3 more losses or one more win and all would likely be clear wins if Bazz took control in the first half.

 

[mauconnfan]

He also improved by being away from JC so what is your point? Agree that he should shoot more but Giffey can't really guard anybody. He is too slow to guard a 2/3 and too frail to guard a 4. Opposing teams do a lot of scoring from the wing against Giffey and Calhoun. Neither handle the ball or pass very well.
Still, this team would be fine if Bazz took control earlier instead of waiting for the second half to score. We are 1 shot away from having 3 more losses or one more win and all would likely be clear wins if Bazz took control in the first half.

He guards a 4 as well or better than Deandre quite honestly and as long as he doesn't wander too much is okay with the 3 I think, not great but not too bad……….

The thing I just found to be an issue when I looked at the box score was he only played 15 minutes yesterday and Tyler Olander logged 25……..what is KO thinking?? To top it off Omar played 14- that's an issue with the little impact he has on the game, that is he playing as many minutes as Giffey…….KO needs to check his sub patterns I'm afraid

 

[intlzncster]

He guards a 4 as well or better than Deandre quite honestly and as long as he doesn't wander too much is okay with the 3 I think, not great but not too bad……….

The thing I just found to be an issue when I looked at the box score was he only played 15 minutes yesterday and Tyler Olander logged 25……..what is KO thinking?? To top it off Omar played 14- that's an issue with the little impact he has on the game, that is he playing as many minutes as Giffey…….KO needs to check his sub patterns I'm afraid

Come on ma, you know that's not a fair comparison. They are competing with different players for time.

 

[joober jones]

There is no "I" in Giffey. At least not in the metaphorical sense. That's probably his biggest problem as far as trying to improve his stock.

 

[noeynox]

Ollie definitely needs to draw up some more plays for Giffey as he is absolutely under utilized but I also saw Giffey pass on some shots that he should have taken. Giffey needs to get a little Boatright in him. (Aggression/confidence)

Or Calhoun, Omar never makes the extra pass, Giffey makes the extra pass when he should be shooting. OP is right, they need to run offense for Giffey. He doesn't need be Rip Hamilton running off screens all day, but four or five designs sets a game to get him an open look should be the norm.

 

[Jimdish255]

This offense is by design. Nothing's changed except Giffey is getting LESS minutes. If coach wanted to change it he could but apparently he doesn't see Neils as anything more than a transition shooter, a screen-setter in the half court, and most importantly a passer. Things are obviously going so great by relying on our guards and waitng for putbacks. Why change what's not working? Keep hoping for Shabazz to rescue the offense at the end of every game then complain about the rebounding.

You can blame Giffey all day for not being aggressive but it sure looks like he's doing what he's been told to do. Marginalized.

 

[jleves]

There is no "I" in Giffey. At least not in the metaphorical sense. That's probably his biggest problem as far as trying to improve his stock.

but there is an 'eye'

 

[mauconnfan]

Come on ma, you know that's not a fair comparison. They are competing with different players for time.

C'mon mau? I promise we would have been better in 10 minutes of Giffey guarding Kennedy than Tyler so it is a comparison. They didn't have a low block guy instead having guys who spread it, their bigs went out on the perimeter too so we know Tyler can't guard from the FT line to the basket right? Then why was he playing?

 

[David 76]

Does anyone think that is Giffey had 12 shots a game he would maintain his 65% shooting fr0m 3? Does anyone think he could maintain that with 3 shots per game? You can't project stats like that. He hasn't shot that since the first 2 games
I agree he should get more shots, more minutes. OC is totally lost and, at least for now,NG is clearly better. But he won't be Rip Hamilton here nor was he in Germany.
Fans used to scream for more minutes for TO too.

 

[Kitaman]

Does anyone think that is Giffey had 12 shots a game he would maintain his 65% shooting fr0m 3? Does anyone think he could maintain that with 3 shots per game? You can't project stats like that. He hasn't shot that since the first 2 games
I agree he should get more shots, more minutes. OC is totally lost and, at least for now,NG is clearly better. But he won't be Rip Hamilton here nor was he in Germany.
Fans used to scream for more minutes for TO too.

I certainly don't think he can maintain that rate of accuracy. I just think with fewer shots comes waning confidence then unfortunately we get the old Giffey. I don't even know if he's streaky, rhythmic or simply gets hot. All I know is that if he makes a couple of shots the rim gets bigger and he becomes a threat.

Our team won't know what he can do (per game) if he doesn't get or try to shoot. Another issue is that opposing teams don't want to find out what he can do so he is now smothered so much that he doesn't have a chance to get set. He too needs to make adjustments, not just the coaches and teammates.

I just want to see a confident Giffey on the offensive end, yes like the first few games. This is whether the shots go in or not. Its his last year and NBA is not an option so I wish he would go out swinging (i.e. shooting).