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dennismenace said:
I think Dan Hurley and Tarris need to get this resolved. To me he looks like he lacks motivation or is even being passive aggressive. Maybe he doesn't relate to the Kodiak bear/monster analogies or "Jersey City" "tough guy" approach. I thought it was instructive to hear the announcer yesterday at the St John's/PC game commenting about how Darling was benched in the early season by Pitino and at some point had a sit down with the kid and took a different approach to motivation. He told him not to lose his confidence and in effect that he still believed in him and his ability. Darling has turned his season completely around, has been on a tear and it was really evident in yesterdays game. Kudos to Pitino for straightening this out and Darling for changing his attitude. One size fits all management styles are clearly not always effective with everyone and coping a bad attitude when your feelings might be hurt is counter-productive. Not saying this is what it is all about but it wouldn't be the first time. Team comes first, not the ego.
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I don't get the impress ego is an issue for Reed. Michigan couldn't figure out how to get the most out of him. Hurley has done a good job getting him to another level. The last step may be up to Tarris. You are right that one size does not fit all. That was a criticism I had of Calhoun. But it is hard to change your style when it works most of the time. I'm not overly optimistic Hurley can find the right buttons to push to get Reed to be more consistent. I am resigned to hope Reed can be good enough to give us a chance to win. Some days he will be great, but hopefully he can avoid another game like against SJU. But even when that happens, having Reibe as a backup is a great luxury. We could have won that SJU game if we had a few less turnovers and few more free throws.
 
KingAG said:
What does McNeeley do better than Braylon?

And I love them both
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Me too. I would say McNeeley was bigger and stronger, had a better handle, rebounded better, defended better and was better at creating offense for himself. I'm not saying Mullins is bad at any of those things, just think because McNeeley was bigger and stronger it helped him in all those areas.
 
KingAG said:
What does McNeeley do better than Braylon?

And I love them both
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Rebound. Put the ball on the floor and create. Pass. Mullins is a better defender by a smidge, and a better shooter. Liam had more dimensions to him.

The NBA as it stands has to love him almost entirely for his quick trigger shooting.
 
DogMania said:
Not implying that he's the next Ray Allen, but might be nice weapon for the Hoyas off the bench. It's not easy to come off the bench and knock down the few shots a bench player gets but his last 5 games he's done that. Compare that to our guards off the bench, they've struggled a lot to contribute on the offensive end of the floor.
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His shooting was more likely flukey than anything. FWIW I think that’s the main reason the game was this close on top of other issues of our own
 
superjohn said:
He's in total control of his emotions and was letting the fanbase know it's unacceptable that people won't come out for a 24-2 team.

Can't believe I'm responding to this disaster of a post.
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So let me see if I have this. It’s ok for Hurley to call out the fans, but not ok for the fans to call out the team for not being able to get a freaking ball in bounds which is certainly one of the most fundamental plays in basketball. Is that about right?
 
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RuffRuff said:
How can you expect 25? I can't see it happening.
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Smith 3.8 Ross 4.3, Stewart 4.6 Reibe 7.1 season avgs=19.8 Clearly includes weak competition, better stat would be in top 11 games

Same group versus Butlerx2, St J's, SHU, Crieght, Vill, AZ, TX, KS, BYU, FL=15.5

Some of those games against the top11 Reibe &/or Stewart started, So 20 is attainable, and I think that is the minimum of what we need from the bench, 25 would be very, very good.

Again, not saying they will, it's just if you are legitimately talking #7, these are some of the things that need to happen. People step up(or back).
 
SwingDog said:
Looking anything but bulletproof, but we'll take the gutted out win. Will these type of wins lead to wins against the better teams? Will we beat St. John's in the rematch and sweep Villanova? And how will we fare in the post season? This team leaves us with lots of questions. Right now I am thinking Georgetown is a better team than their record indicates, and we STILL haven't reached our full potential.
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i think we definitely beat Nova, SJU is a toss up we’ll see, we run the table with the rest of the league EASILY though
 
RuffRuff said:
Rebound. Put the ball on the floor and create. Pass. Mullins is a better defender by a smidge, and a better shooter. Liam had more dimensions to him.

The NBA as it stands has to love him almost entirely for his quick trigger shooting.
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I don’t think McNeeley is better of the dribble or as a creator. I just think Mullins isn’t asked to do that. Mullins is by far a better shooter in every aspect. Spot up, movement, and off the dribble.
 
KingAG said:
I don’t think McNeeley is better of the dribble or as a creator. I just think Mullins isn’t asked to do that. Mullins is by far a better shooter in every aspect. Spot up, movement, and off the dribble.
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I think that is wrong - Mullins doesn't have the body type to work into the paint. McNeeley is far better off the dribble. A couple times I've seen Mullins try to put the ball on the floor, it didn't look good. Has he even attempted a drive to the rim all year? How can you even evaluate? It feels like contradicting just to contradict.
 
RuffRuff said:
I think that is wrong - Mullins doesn't have the body type to work into the paint. McNeeley is far better off the dribble. A couple times I've seen Mullins try to put the ball on the floor, it didn't look good. Has he even attempted a drive to the rim all year? How can you even evaluate? It feels like contradicting just to contradict.
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Attacking the basket and off the dribble aren’t the same thing. Mullins is significantly better shooting off the dribble than McNeeley. McNeeley was a set shot shooter. Mullins is better at getting his own shot. McNeeley if he wasn’t attacking the basket, was shooting a set shot.

Also we all didn’t just start watching Braylon in college. He created a lot more in HS. Playing with Silas, that’s not what he’s being asked to do. McNeeley played with a 50% Hass.
 
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I don't know the statistics but I feel like Mullins is actually more efficient at the rim than McNeeley. I remember McNeeley would get downhill decently well but then throw his body into defenders and put up tough shots very often

The difference is in volume. McNeeley was pretty much our only shot creator so he had to put up a lot more shots which included driving to the rim. Braylon's shots are a lot more selective to his strengths, which is on purpose. The system that pushed McNeeley to force shots did not work and Hurley designed the roster to avoid needing that again. If you gave Braylon 20+ shots, I'm sure he could put up a performance like Liam did against Gonzaga at MSG

Braylon seems best shooting threes or getting to the midrange pullup. I'm sure if he forced himself to the rim and tried to finish contested shots, his efficiency would go down since he's shorter and skinnier. A floater game seems like a good compromise
 
HW611 said:
Create off the dribble. Get to the rim. Playmaking currently. Defense because he has more size physically.

Think the only thing he doesn’t do better than Mullins is shoot and play without the basketball.
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I don't really agree with this as Mullins has superior lateral quickness allows him to stay in front of defenders especially on the perimeter. I can see you where inside if they are posting up that McNeeley would have the edge there. McNeeley was a real bad defender and could never stay in fron of anyone in his one year at UConn. That is one of Mullines strengths.
 
3rdbass said:
I don't really agree with this as Mullins has superior lateral quickness allows him to stay in front of defenders especially on the perimeter. I can see you where inside if they are posting up that McNeeley would have the edge there. McNeeley was a real bad defender and could never stay in fron of anyone in his one year at UConn. That is one of Mullines strengths.
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Mullins definitely a better defender.
 
I think people here have the memory of a flea. We have multiple people talking about Liam McNeeley, a guy who got 46% at the rim, being a better finisher than Mullins. Same with the midrange where McNeeley shot 35%. Mullins is significantly better in both aspects, when he takes his man off the dribble he's almost automatic in the midrange and has been very good in his limited attempts at the rim too
 
navery12 said:
I think people here have the memory of a flea. We have multiple people talking about Liam McNeeley, a guy who got 46% at the rim, being a better finisher than Mullins. Same with the midrange where McNeeley shot 35%. Mullins is significantly better in both aspects, when he takes his man off the dribble he's almost automatic in the midrange and has been very good in his limited attempts at the rim too
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Spot on. My eyeballs also tell me Mullins is better.
 
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rockthrower said:
i think we definitely beat Nova, SJU is a toss up we’ll see, we run the table with the rest of the league EASILY though
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Glad you have the confidence we definitely beat Nova. Im just wondering what gives you that confidence with the way we have played lately?
 
Donyell 360 said:
Me too. I would say McNeeley was bigger and stronger, had a better handle, rebounded better, defended better and was better at creating offense for himself. I'm not saying Mullins is bad at any of those things, just think because McNeeley was bigger and stronger it helped him in all those areas.
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Im just going to say it, my first thought when someone mentions McNeeley, is he underachieved here.
 
FightOnCT said:
His shooting was more likely flukey than anything. FWIW I think that’s the main reason the game was this close on top of other issues of our own
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I don't know why people discount Mulready going 7-9 from 3 the prior 4 games, granted on low volume, following that with 4-7 against UConn. That's 11-16 his past 5 games which is quite impressive. That doesn't point to a fluke, but a growing trend. Why let facts get in the way of a Boneyard blue glasses opinion.

Now if he shoots the 3 the rest of the season at a pedestrian rate, then your position has merit, but if continues to knock 'em down at an impressive clip, then you're not giving this kid his deserved props.
 
Stats McNeeley 14+, 6 +rebounds and 2.3 assists
Mullins 11, 2, 1.5
Draw your own conclusions but the rebounds are important.
 
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