Georgetown Post Game Thread

[RuffRuff]

Yeah, I can understand that. In order for this team to reach the Final Four, Tarris has to be a big factor and be the favorable match up in almost every game.

My biggest gripe is the bench. Hurley said earlier this year that this team can wear others down with depth. I understood his plan and idea so I am not knocking him, but the lack of depth won't allow that. Yes, I said lack of depth. Besides Reibe, no one on the bench did much of anything. Ross has a great 3 play sequence, but that really isn't enough. Not to break my arm patting myself on the back, but I saw this issue a while ago when I went to the game at the AMP. On the jumbotron there it shows the number of points scored by the bench. PC's bench outscored UConn's 41-3 in that game.

The question with Tarris is can he, and will he, be able to turn it on when we need him most. He's the odd mix of high ceiling, low floor type of athlete.

I'm throwing in the towel on the bench. At this point in the year, it would be an angle Hurley was using with intention to make our team better. Instead he's dialing off it, especially in close games. I think Gtown's bench outscored ours tonight by 30+ to around 10. We are 280th in the country in bench points. Our bench is not a strength, it's in fact a weakness.

 

[KingAG]

People (myself included) getting on RuffRuff in the past for saying Tarris isn't tough but you're getting likes for calling Tarris a dumb basketball player.

This is a strange place.

It sounds harsher than intended. Everyone can’t be a high IQ basketball player. That’s instinctive. He’s extremely gifted in other areas, and extremely limited in how fast he can think the game. Solo is similar in this respect, watch him try and run a fast break. His brain is moving faster than his body can respond. It’s like a stutter. Dumb in this respect has nothing to do with intelligence or intellect. But rather how fast you compute what’s happening on the court. His computing speed is slow, and that’s where the majority of his shortcomings stem from. You can see the frustration on his face, because I believe the want to is there. Just not the know how.

Taris is a very intelligent young man.

 

[Donyell 360]

Would we have been any better last year with Mullins over McNeeley? Would we be better or worse this year with Mullins over McNeeley? My hunch is no.

I like Mullins. He is fun to watch. He has a higher ceiling than McNeeley but I think we would be slightly better with McNeeley (especially if we assume it is his second year). But it is close enough I wouldn't die on that hill. Mullins is a better shooter for sure.

 

[John]

Yeah, I can understand that. In order for this team to reach the Final Four, Tarris has to be a big factor and be the favorable match up in almost every game.

My biggest gripe is the bench. Hurley said earlier this year that this team can wear others down with depth. I understood his plan and idea so I am not knocking him, but the lack of depth won't allow that. Yes, I said lack of depth. Besides Reibe, no one on the bench did much of anything. Ross has a great 3 play sequence, but that really isn't enough. Not to break my arm patting myself on the back, but I saw this issue a while ago when I went to the game at the AMP. On the jumbotron there it shows the number of points scored by the bench. PC's bench outscored UConn's 41-3 in that game.

Second consecutive season where the advertised team depth of off-and-early season has evaporated as reality sets in.

 

[Nicklo28]

Someone at the game can comment. The empty seats in the second deck behind the basket was it the student section?
On X couple people were blaming the students.

 

[TWRpastabar]

Would we have been any better last year with Mullins over McNeeley? Would we be better or worse this year with Mullins over McNeeley? My hunch is no.

If we have McNeeley this year instead of Mullins I think we’re a tad worse because he doesn’t fit the needed role. If we had Mullins last year instead of McNeeley I think the team is definitely worse. McNeeley won us several games by himself, ie. @ Creighton. I don’t think Mullins has shown he can take over for a full game.

I like both guys a lot I’m thankful theyre huskies. Loved McNeelys heart. Felt he got shortchanged cuz that team last year was missing so many pieces.

 

[TroyHall98]

Yeah, I can understand that. In order for this team to reach the Final Four, Tarris has to be a big factor and be the favorable match up in almost every game.

My biggest gripe is the bench. Hurley said earlier this year that this team can wear others down with depth. I understood his plan and idea so I am not knocking him, but the lack of depth won't allow that. Yes, I said lack of depth. Besides Reibe, no one on the bench did much of anything. Ross has a great 3 play sequence, but that really isn't enough. Not to break my arm patting myself on the back, but I saw this issue a while ago when I went to the game at the AMP. On the jumbotron there it shows the number of points scored by the bench. PC's bench outscored UConn's 41-3 in that game.

The gripes are many for this squad: Bench, rebounding/lack of physicality, turnovers, fouling/free throw disparity, no go to guy for a bucket

 

[RuffRuff]

Second consecutive season where the advertised team depth of off-and-early season has evaporated as reality sets in.

And with the incredible shrinking bench that our third year players of Ross and Stew are working off of, why in the world would they come back to come off the bench?

 

[Donyell 360]

It sounds harsher than intended. Everyone can’t be a high IQ basketball player. That’s instinctive. He’s extremely gifted in other areas, and extremely limited in how fast he can think the game. Dumb in this respect has nothing to do with intelligence or intellect. But rather how fast you compute what’s happening on the court. His computing speed is slow, and that’s where the majority of his shortcomings stem from. You can see the frustration on his face, because I believe the want to is there. Just not the know how.

The word dumb is harsh. If you don't want to be harsh, how about just saying, "he makes questionable decisions" or as you rephrased it, "he isn't the highest BB IQ" or "he's not particularly fast at processing". Hyperbole is always going to be perceived as harsh. See what I did thiere?

 

[TUCBTUD]

Solo Ball, Silas Demary Jr., Alex Karaban:

 

[Jaydumo20]

New here? I’m the biggest Taris defender on this board. But he isn’t a smart basketball player

Youre not the biggest Tarris defender if you claim the right to call him dumb. Forgot about his basketball game, he's a good kid. Ease up.

 

[KingAG]

The word dumb is harsh. If you don't want to be harsh, how about just saying, "he makes questionable decisions" or as you rephrased it, "he isn't the highest BB IQ" or "he's not particularly fast at processing". Hyperbole is always going to be perceived as harsh. See what I did thiere?

Touché.

 

[KingAG]

Youre not the biggest Tarris defender. You just called him dumb. Forgot about his basketball game, he's a good kid. Ease up.

It sounds harsher than intended. Everyone can’t be a high IQ basketball player. That’s instinctive. He’s extremely gifted in other areas, and extremely limited in how fast he can think the game. Solo is similar in this respect, watch him try and run a fast break. His brain is moving faster than his body can respond. It’s like a stutter. Dumb in this respect has nothing to do with intelligence or intellect. But rather how fast you compute what’s happening on the court. His computing speed is slow, and that’s where the majority of his shortcomings stem from. You can see the frustration on his face, because I believe the want to is there. Just not the know how.

Taris is a very intelligent young man.

I was wrong for using the word dumb.

 

[aceboon]

If we have McNeeley this year instead of Mullins I think we’re a tad worse because he doesn’t fit the needed role. If we had Mullins last year instead of McNeeley I think the team is definitely worse. McNeeley won us several games by himself, ie. @ Creighton. I don’t think Mullins has shown he can take over for a full game.

I like both guys a lot I’m thankful theyre huskies. Loved McNeelys heart. Felt he got shortchanged cuz that team last year was missing so many pieces.

What role wouldn't McNeeley fit? Before the ankle injury McNeeley was actually showing some pretty good playmaking chops off the bounce coming off of screens, especially with Tarris hitting him for dumpoffs. He'd fit in fine assuming he could make 38% or above from 3 with another year of seasoning and being healthy.

 

[Donyell 360]

And with the incredible shrinking bench that our third year players of Ross and Stew are working off of, why in the world would they come back to come off the bench?

They come back because unfortunately Hurley won't recruit over them as loyal seniors. Maybe one of them continues to come off the bench next year because they can both play on the wing.

 

[nycscooby]

Yes, considerably

I don’t think we got to see much of a healthy Liam
so I can make that assessment.

 

[superjohn]

It's getting to the point where I sometimes forget Jaylin is on the team when I'm watching games. He has 2 points total his last three games and he's played a total of 26 minutes over the last three games.

 

[nycscooby]

this is dramatic. And on brand.

I think Michigan, Arizona, Duke, Houston, St John’s and Florida would all curb stomp us today.

 

[CTBasketball]

Dan Hurley:

Hurley not happy with the Gampel crowd
and definitely not happy with the bench. Reed too. Need more out of them all.

 

[KingAG]

I think Michigan, Arizona, Duke, Houston, St John’s and Florida would all curb stomp us today.

We just played St John’s and they didn’t curb stomp us.

 

[Kemba15]

I think Michigan, Arizona, Duke, Houston, St John’s and Florida would all curb stomp us today.

The sad thing is that so many people on this board believe this. The funny thing is you are so wrong

 

[navery12]

I think Michigan, Arizona, Duke, Houston, St John’s and Florida would all curb stomp us today.

I don't like our chances either if we had to play 6 games in 1 day

 

[RuffRuff]

The word dumb is harsh. If you don't want to be harsh, how about just saying, "he makes questionable decisions" or as you rephrased it, "he isn't the highest BB IQ" or "he's not particularly fast at processing". Hyperbole is always going to be perceived as harsh. See what I did thiere?

One thing Tarris isn't, is consistent and reliable.

I'd guess if they had to do it all over again, the staff would have gone in a different direction at the 5. I will always look at that post B2B portal/off-season as rushed and distracted. With all these effective Euro 5's out there (AZ, UNC, Illinois), there were likely better system fits. We aren't using Tarris even a smidge of how we used Adama.

They come back because unfortunately Hurley won't recruit over them as loyal seniors. Maybe one of them continues to come off the bench next year because they can both play on the wing.

Yeah, but Hurley is also not going to silver plate them a starting role. So why would those two waste their senior years coming of the bench sporadically? Stew got 4 minutes tonight. If I'm a senior in today's world and was just used sporadically off the bench as a Junior, and not guaranteed a starting role, I'm moving on.

 

[TWRpastabar]

It sounds harsher than intended. Everyone can’t be a high IQ basketball player. That’s instinctive. He’s extremely gifted in other areas, and extremely limited in how fast he can think the game. Solo is similar in this respect, watch him try and run a fast break. His brain is moving faster than his body can respond. It’s like a stutter. Dumb in this respect has nothing to do with intelligence or intellect. But rather how fast you compute what’s happening on the court. His computing speed is slow, and that’s where the majority of his shortcomings stem from. You can see the frustration on his face, because I believe the want to is there. Just not the know how.

Taris is a very intelligent young man.

Well said. Basketball IQ is such an odd thing. You hear solo and tarris speak and they are clearly intelligent ppl. They are just so slow to react out there.

On the flip side I’ve coached guys who are (no offense to them) just not smart ppl but on the court they could see things before they happened and were always in the right place at the right time.

 

[Jaydumo20]

I was wrong for using the word dumb.

I get it. It's easy to get frustrated. This team is a head scratcher. But I pull for them harder than any team in recent memory. 2 losses is an incredible feat and they will be nasty in the tourney. I have little doubt.