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hoopsnloops32 said:


"She's shooting the ball well" - The 'Nika's not starting' crowd isn't going to like that comment at the end.
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She has always been a decent outside shooter when she is wide open and has the time to square up and plant her feet. I'll be impressed when one of the coaches says "I'm shocked when she misses. I assume that every time she shoots it's going in". When the coaches say that I'll consider her a likely starter.
 
Bills Fan said:
With better video. Whoever has the camera is too close and moves from one thing to another too fast. I would think being further away would solve the problem.
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I agree with this. Well I'm not really that great with the camera but I wish the shots were longer. I was disappointed with myself/fandom cuz I really couldn't tell who was taking the shot in some clips. Like I think Azzi makes one off a pass from KK but it was a bit fast.

Also, I feel like I say it every year around this time, but the amount of talent on this team is really mesmerizing. I really wonder how many Geno will play consistently.
 
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Alydar said:
She has always been a decent outside shooter when she is wide open and has the time to square up and plant her feet. I'll be impressed when one of the coaches says "I'm shocked when she misses. I assume that every time she shoots it's going in". When the coaches say that I'll consider her a likely starter.
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Wasn't Muhl the second best three point shooter on the team last year?
 
hoopsfan22 said:
For players that averaged at least one attempt per game, Lou shot 44.0% and Nika shot 34.3%. Azzi was behind them at 34.0% and Caroline behind Azzi at 33.8%.
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Why didn't you say that in your 1st post? I answered your question as it was asked. Here are two reasons I think you are wrong.

1. You said "on the team" Senechal, Bueckers, Ducharme and Fudd were all on the team and are far better. So the answer is no. A thousand times no.

2. Limiting it to players who played, Senechal was the No 1 and Fudd was No 2. In 15 games played Fudd averaged over 2 made 3's/game while Muhl averaged less than 1/game.
 
Alydar said:
Why didn't you say that in your 1st post? I answered your question as it was asked. Here are two reasons I think you are wrong.

1. You said "on the team" Senechal, Bueckers, Ducharme and Fudd were all on the team and are far better. So the answer is no. A thousand times no.

2. Limiting it to players who played, Senechal was the No 1 and Fudd was No 2. In 15 games played Fudd averaged over 2 made 3's/game while Muhl averaged less than 1/game.
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How can it be no when statistically 34.4% is higher than 34.0% and 33.8%. Fudd only averaged more made threes per game because she had more attempts. That said, I believe we will all be shocked and perhaps disappointed if Nika shots a higher percentage than Azzi this coming season, unless they are both north of 40%!
 
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SEbluebood said:
How can it be no when statistically 34.4% is higher than 34.0% and 33.8%. Fudd only averaged more made threes per game because she had more attempts. That said, I believe we will all be shocked and perhaps disappointed if Nika shots a higher percentage than Azzi this coming season, unless they are both north of 40%!
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No offense but why am I discussing 3 pt shooting with an SEC fan? Now that I noticed your conference affiliation I can understand your inability to appreciate great 3pt shooting or even to recognize it. :rolleyes:

On a pure statistical basis Edwards is the best 3pt shooter on the team. Fudd made more because she took more shots than Edwards. Right?

There is a universe of difference between a) spotting up behind the arc with no one within 8' of you and shooting a set shot two seconds after getting the ball, and b) coming off a double low screen, sprinting to the arc and getting off a 3 a half second after touching the ball. But then you are an SEC fan so I make allowances. :D
 
Stats don’t tell the whole story… ever. Who did the team look to for the desperation shot at the end of of halves? Nika made one of those last season, but it was often Azzi when she was on the floor. I’m sure her shooting stats suffered for it.
 
SEbluebood said:
How can it be no when statistically 34.4% is higher than 34.0% and 33.8%. Fudd only averaged more made threes per game because she had more attempts. That said, I believe we will all be shocked and perhaps disappointed if Nika shots a higher percentage than Azzi this coming season, unless they are both north of 40%!
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I would guess that given the small sample size there is no difference (statistically) between the three shooting %'s. And %-wise, Edwards is 100%, strictly speaking statistically.
 
HuskyNan said:
KK with the stiff arm :) She’s going to break some hearts as a Husky. Love the aggressiveness of this freshman class!
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I also liked the way she pushed the guy out of there, but in a game (other than football) that's a foul.
 
fang said:
Does this bury the lede - Paige cleared to play 5 on 5?
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No I don’t believe so. She has said she has t been cleared for uncontained full court 5 on 5… this was definitely halfcourt drill work.
 
Alydar said:
She has always been a decent outside shooter when she is wide open and has the time to square up and plant her feet. I'll be impressed when one of the coaches says "I'm shocked when she misses. I assume that every time she shoots it's going in". When the coaches say that I'll consider her a likely starter.
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So that is the bar for Nika at this point, she needs to be the best shooter on the team? Perhaps you haven't noticed but scoring is not the primary criteria the coaches have/will use as to why Nika will start. The only concern related to her scoring is that she forces the defense not to play off her (which she clearly accomplished this past season). She has and will start due to her ability to take seconds off the opponents clock by disrupting their ability to get into their offensive sets, continuously pushing pace to allow us to dictate the flow and rhythm of the game and to position and find her teammates to gives us the best scoring opportunities.

If Nika showed up this season with a focus on scoring at the expense of her proven strengths she wouldn't start. This past season she significantly rose her scoring average, drives to the basket, foul shot attempts and % while setting atleast three all time Husky assist records and repeated as BE DPOY. Ask Dawn Staley if the strategy against the Huskies, with Nika at the point should be to play off her! Probably really doesn't matter to the coaches as to what you think but I can guarantee that their bar is not to be able to say "I'm shocked when she misses. I assume that every time she shoots it's going in". That has been and will continue to be their expectation for both Paige and Azzi. As Geno has said we just need Nika to be Nika while adding the observation that he doesn't believe you can win a championship without a kid like her on the team.
 
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If Nika has always been a decent shoot from outside when she is wide open, why do people keep making the agruement people will leave her to double Paige/Azzi/Aaliyah? Clearly they won't because she has proven she is a good enough shooter that she can't be left wide open.
 
HuskyNan said:
It’s easier to tone down aggressiveness in a player than to dredge it up from within them
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Agreed.

Please allow me to expand on several posters on this board. After extensive OI (organic intelligence) research I believe the "Nika does not start" arguments can be boiled down as follows:

1. Nika doesn't score enough
2. Nika isn't Paige

First, I'd like to see Nika score 1 or 2 more baskets per game (without hurting her shooting %). Scoring more than that really isn't needed with the talent on this team. Instead Nika needs to keep going Nika things among which is setting assist records and being the 2x BE DPOY.

Second, none of the other 13 players are Paige. So, don't start anyone who is not Paige is really weak. But, but, but, but Paige is a better PG than Nika. Yeah right, but she's also a better SG guard than any of the other 13 players on the team. She's also probably a better SF than anyone else on the team. I firmly believe UConn loses nothing with Paige in the SG position. I also believe SG is the best position for Azzi. Unless there's a real good reason for not starting 3 guards, that leaves the PG open for Nika. And I don't want Paige running her buttocks off trying to hassle the opposing PG bringing the ball up court. That's Nika's job, which she does pretty well.
 
I would have liked to seen the arc on Nika's made 3 in the video. It got cut off. It seems to me she has a very high arc, especially when compared to very good perimeter shooters.
 
hoopsnloops32 said:
No I don’t believe so. She has said she has t been cleared for uncontained full court 5 on 5… this was definitely halfcourt drill work.
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The enthusiasm and energy they showed for a drill fooled me into thinking it was 5X5.
This is where players show the coaches that they can hit certain shots. I remember Griffin taking a 3 early in her freshman season and the announcer commenting that she had the coaches' OK to shoot them. Every shot they take in these drills is recorded. Right now UConn will have many offensive options when they run motion. That may not even be needed because with the depth they have UConn can play max energy for 40 minutes, something that wasn't an option the last 2 seasons. I used to love watching UConn's defense pressure the ball. Not really pressing, but using traps and rotation to force the offense to react to them rather than sitting and reacting to the offense. It burns a lot of energy and looking at the roster energy is something Geno has in abundanza.
 
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wingsfan055 said:
I would have liked to seen the arc on Nika's made 3 in the video. It got cut off. It seems to me she has a very high arc, especially when compared to very good perimeter shooters.
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Her game shots have been the same. I think she learned it to get shots off over taller players. Tiff Hayes had a rainbow 3 and KML's arc was simply perfect.
Skeets said:
Agreed.

Please allow me to expand on several posters on this board. After extensive OI (organic intelligence) research I believe the "Nika does not start" arguments can be boiled down as follows:

1. Nika doesn't score enough
2. Nika isn't Paige

First, I'd like to see Nika score 1 or 2 more baskets per game (without hurting her shooting %). Scoring more than that really isn't needed with the talent on this team. Instead Nika needs to keep going Nika things among which is setting assist records and being the 2x BE DPOY.

Second, none of the other 13 players are Paige. So, don't start anyone who is not Paige is really weak. But, but, but, but Paige is a better PG than Nika. Yeah right, but she's also a better SG guard than any of the other 13 players on the team. She's also probably a better SF than anyone else on the team. I firmly believe UConn loses nothing with Paige in the SG position. I also believe SG is the best position for Azzi. Unless there's a real good reason for not starting 3 guards, that leaves the PG open for Nika. And I don't want Paige running her buttocks off trying to hassle the opposing PG bringing the ball up court. That's Nika's job, which she does pretty well.
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1. You got it wrong. It isn't about Muhl not being good enough. It's about the best 5 players to start. There are three guards proven as starters. You would start all three. Geno has done that. But it wasn't because he loves guards so much, he did it because those 5 were his best and most complete group. My starting team starts with Edwards, Bueckers & Fudd. A PF and what are essentially two combo-guards, both of whom are long, have outstanding ball skills, are great passers and who are 2 of the three best perimeter shooters in wcbb. With the guard positions in capable hands I now have to pick the other two starters. Edwards needs help in the post and the bigger the better. The options are Brady, Deberry, Patterson, El Alfy. The other need is for a defensive player who is a scorer, a facilitator and a rebounder. Griffin, Patterson. I'm leaving out the true freshmen.

Available players: guards: Muhl, Bettencourt wings: Griffin, Ducharme, posts: Brady, Deberry, El Alfy, Patterson

Pick two to start. I see a greater need for a post and a wing than for a third guard.


You put your team together by starting with Muhl and then putting Edwards Bueckers and Fudd in, leaving one spot to fill two holes.
 
One thing I gotta say, is he is 1,000% right that you should call out the person's name if you want them to pass you the ball. This used to annoy the crap out of me when I played in high school...guys would constantly say everything BUT the ball handler's name, like 'DUDE', or 'BALL', or the ever-popular 'YOYOYO!'. Then everyone would be pissed off and dour when we turned the ball over!

It's a recipe for chaos.
 
Alydar said:
correction: recovering from injuries. Also recovering from injuries: Bueckers, Fudd, Ducharme and Brady. They are just further along on their recoveries.
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Sounds good to me! Let the healing continue! Z
 
It's not always about putting the best 5 players on the floor, its more about 5 players that play well together. Of course, Paige, Azzi, and Aaliyah will start. Nika has played with them in and out for 2 years so she should be there. The next starter can be any of the others. Dorka played well with them last year, so my guess is that Ice may fit that bill. Off the bench, a good scorer like Caroline can replace Nika or Azzi, not to mention Aubrey, and they will keep the defense occupied outside as Jana, Yanna, and maybe Amari can spell Ice and Aaliyah. From there, KK, Ashlynn, Enes, will fill in later in the game if we are in control. Of course, as the season progresses, the names may change in the substitution pattern. With so many potentially really good players it will take a few games to sort everything out, but the bottom line is-we will be great.
 
Nika has played with them in and out for 2 years so she should be there.
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That's not a good enough reason to just automatically include her.
 
Alydar said:
That's not a good enough reason to just automatically include her.
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Perhaps having the recently minted three category Uconn assist record holder on the court with our three best scorers who is always looking to set her teammates up to score would be a persuasive argument with a bonus that she has been and would be the head of the snake of our return to an aggressive defense. I would suggest a slight edit to Bald Huskie's line above, Nika has played very effectively with them in and out for 2 years and great chemistry matters so she should be there.

I agree Geno isn't going to automatically include anyone. Specifically in Nika's case we know that to be true, remember how he said if she didn't change going into this season he would sit her ass down even if he had no other guards? Then he added if she does what the team needs her to do and that he knows she can do she will have an exceptional season. She accepted and delivered on the challenge in spades and he has acknowledged more than once that she has grown tremendously on and off the court and the impact that that has had on the teams' success. So she has and will again earn her spot in the starting five.
 
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